No shed on Minox

[yeahyeahyeah]

If you think I am being aggressive, you do not know what aggressive is. I am very impatient with you however. Your inability to pay attention is very annoying and has worn my patience very thin. I have no patience left for you.

You are limiting your sample too much and since you don't pay attention I doubt you actually know what you are looking for. On top of all that, you are ignoring significant real world evidence. Like many others, your view of what is normal has been tainted by media. You look at actors and models and think that is what normal is... It isn't.

No, I am quite popular thank you very much....

And through that I know a shit load of guys with zero hairloss. I've just mentioned a few.

Every guy that I know who has receeded, continues to bald, the rate that they bald is dependent on their genetics. That is why this mature hairline is just a myth, which when used incorrectly, the way you are using it does more harm then good. As a lot of guys as a result are mislead to believe that their hair will go back 1/2 an inch and stay like that for the rest of their lives.

Which isnt the case, it is very slow male pattern baldness; thus a one way ticket never the less. So comparing it to puberty is stupid, because not every guy will be inflicted with MPB. Wereas every guy's balls will drop at the onset of puberty.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I'm not about to show her pics from a hair loss forum for fear of other relatives finding out that I frequent one. They would take the piss out of me as you Brits say.

As for the other questions, No I never asked her if people with slight recession maintain. In my case however my hairline went back about 1/2" by the time I was 28 and then just stopped It continues to thin but the hairline has stayed put (I'm 58)
I also get how frustrating it is seeing guys like Tom Cruise never growing older but that's a combination of the genetic lottery and the best cosmetic surgery money can buy.
Concerning fin it's a tough decision. I'm sure there are a bunch of Hollywood stars using it but psychology it's tough on a younger guy. I didn't start using it until I was 45 but prior to that I was already taking 4-5 shots of insulin because i'm a type 1 diabetic so daily medication was routine to me but when I started taking the insulin at 32 I felt very vulnerable which is the way I think younger guys look at meds like fin.
When I started thinning my cousin told me to cut off 12" of hair to get a style that looked better and no one said to me "Hey you cut your hair because you're balding" all they said was they liked the change.
Your hair looks great and I honestly don't think you are anywhere near that stage and if you got a cut that was easier to style no one would think anything of it.
I hope some of this helps.

Its great to hear that your hair went back (at a similar age to me) and they stayed steady for like 15 years.

Was your recession similar to mine?

I am hoping that mine holds out for that long too without meds - chances are if it does, then I can take advantage of histogen by the time I am 30. My brother being older then me by a year still has a thick main - similar recession, so signs are looking good.

Yeah you are right, my actual hairloss is not bad, my hair is thick for example. And the hairdressers always compliment it. It is just the hairline, because it is a sharp triangular shape, I can't really style it without a quiff forming in the front (if I try to have bangs) - if pushed up, end up having a sharp fauxhawk.

Thats why it bothers me.
I go to the best stylist here in London to get my hair cut. So, and still its a pain.

[mlao]

Its great to hear that your hair went back (at a similar age to me) and they stayed steady for like 15 years.

Was your recession similar to mine?

I am hoping that mine holds out for that long too without meds - chances are if it does, then I can take advantage of histogen by the time I am 30. My brother being older then me by a year still has a thick main - similar recession, so signs are looking good.

Yeah you are right, my actual hairloss is not bad, my hair is thick for example. And the hairdressers always compliment it. It is just the hairline, because it is a sharp triangular shape, I can't really style it without a quiff forming in the front (if I try to have bangs) - if pushed up, end up having a sharp fauxhawk.

Thats why it bothers me.
I go to the best stylist here in London to get my hair cut. So, and still its a pain.

My recession was exactly like yours. When I was 26 (1980) I went to a doctor in NYC at the time who was a specialist in hair loss. He did a biopsy and said that it was MPB but then told me that it would probably stay the same for 10 to 15 years and he was spot on.
I know everyone is different but maybe this will help you evaluate your situation better.

[yeahyeahyeah]

My recession was exactly like yours.

How did you style your hair in your younger days, and did you use any meds?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Without seeing your hairline, it sounds like you have a natural and normal adult male hair line - then years later MPB started. You see, they are two different things. Your description is a classic example to show that they are two different things. There is not likely anything a male can do to treat or prevent the adult male hair line from developing - but a male can prevent, treat and possibly reverse MPB.

No he had MPB all along, it just started then stopped for 2 decades.

[mlao]

How did you style your hair in your younger days, and did you use any meds?

I didn't use any meds until 13 years ago and before that every time I came back from getting a haircut I would change it up. sometimes long with a
body-wave then I went onto spiky and short and finally before it began to get thinner I grew it past my shoulders and wore it long in a ponytail.
It wasn't until my cousin sat me down once and said don't freak out but I'm going to cut it short. She was right though it looked better.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I didn't use any meds until 13 years ago and before that every time I came back from getting a haircut I would change it up. sometimes long with a
body-wave then I went onto spiky and short and finally before it began to get thinner I grew it past my shoulders and wore it long in a ponytail.
It wasn't until my cousin sat me down once and said don't freak out but I'm going to cut it short. She was right though it looked better.

And the thinning happened 3 years ago?

[mlao]

And the thinning happened 3 years ago?

For the first 9 years on meds it was changing but is was imperceptibly slow.
It wasn't until 2009 that it began to bother me (age 55)

[WarLord]

~6 years pre fin about 6-7 years post fin. Got the hairline regrowth in the early years. Mostly around forehead and small amount in corners. It was not much but better than nothing.Adding Fin worked far better as I actually saw my hairline come forward. After dropping fin, hairline slowly went back over the past 6-7 years so trying lose dose of fin to see if I can stop it.

Good luck getting the hair back. I dropped minox for 3 months for health reasons late last year. I lost a lot in the back. It looks like I will get some but not all of it back. Another reason I am giving fin another shot....

Just to clarify the things: You were losing your hair after 6 years on minoxidil and that was the reason, why you added finasteride? You shouldn't quit minoxidil at any cost - your hair is dependent on it and you would be bald within 6 months. Finasteride can support the effect of minoxidil, yet it can't keep the hair saved by minoxidil.

[Tracy C]

No he had MPB all along, it just started then stopped for 2 decades.

This persistent foolish denial isn't doing you any good. It isn't hurting either but it certainly isn't doing you any good.

[mpb47]

No first 4 of the first 6 I was simply trying to get back my hairline. I did get some mild regrowth at first but not for too long. Then I found I was starting to thin out in the back and tried for 2 years to stop it on Minox. But after 2 years it was obvious that I had lost a lot of ground so I went on Fin. Yes it was Fin + minox and I had really good results. But after 3-4 years stopped Fin due to sides and it was minox only from that point only. Minox has worked pretty good in the back though I have lost ground recently. Hairline has just gradually gone back over the past ~6 years I have been off fin.

[yeahyeahyeah]

This persistent foolish denial isn't doing you any good. It isn't hurting either but it certainly isn't doing you any good.

I can't be bothered to argue, when it is clearly obvious that there are many men that do not develop a mature hairline.

And if say they do later in life, it is due to MPB gene expressing itself.

[WarLord]

No first 4 of the first 6 I was simply trying to get back my hairline. I did get some mild regrowth at first but not for too long. Then I found I was starting to thin out in the back and tried for 2 years to stop it on Minox. But after 2 years it was obvious that I had lost a lot of ground so I went on Fin. Yes it was Fin + minox and I had really good results. But after 3-4 years stopped Fin due to sides and it was minox only from that point only. Minox has worked pretty good in the back though I have lost ground recently. Hairline has just gradually gone back over the past ~6 years I have been off fin.

It was a crucial mistake that you had used it only on hairline! You must use it on the whole area affected by MPB from the start! Furthermore, considering that you started your treatment ca. 15-16 years ago, it means that you used only the 2% minoxidil version at the beginning? I would never quit an effective treatment against hairloss, unless it would amputate my hands.

[mpb47]

It was a crucial mistake that you had used it only on hairline! You must use it on the whole area affected by MPB from the start! Furthermore, considering that you started your treatment ca. 15-16 years ago, it means that you used only the 2% minoxidil version at the beginning? I would never quit an effective treatment against hairloss, unless it would amputate my hands.

1- When I started minox I only had the elusive mature hairline and nothing else.

2 - Back in the 90's there were several hairs web sites that said not to worry about the mature hairline because once it stops , you are home free. As in forever. But several older guys on one of the hair boards said that it would sooner or later start up again, most likely in the back. So I did start using it in the back even though I didn't need it. But within a couple of years it my vertex started forming despite already being on minox. It was too aggressive for minox to stop by itself so I added Fin.

3) Never stopped Minox other that this past winter to see if it was contributing to health problems. It wasn't so back on it.

[yeahyeahyeah]

2 - Back in the 90's there were several hairs web sites that said not to worry about the mature hairline because once it stops , you are home free. As in forever. But several older guys on one of the hair boards said that it would sooner or later start up again, most likely in the back. So I did start using it in the back even though I didn't need it. But within a couple of years it my vertex started forming despite already being on minox. It was too aggressive for minox to stop by itself so I added Fin.

Wait until Tracy chimes in and tries to dispute you.

Got any pics of your mature hairline from that time?