artistry concepts

[jholcollege11]

And as far as using profanity, grow up! You guys stay on these forums and cry like little girls that skinned their knees about being bald and are the FIRST to criticize people that do something about it.... and that means in life you are a spectator and rightfully so! There are people that do and there are people that talk about doing and shout how the people that did were wrong. I DONT care who you use but I did thorough investigations of all of these companies before I picked one and i posted honestly about my PERSONAL experience with it to help people that were looking for answers and considering this as a treatment. I met Robert IN PERSON and I sat in the chair while the phone rang in the receptionist area every 15 seconds and with all of the people that were calling about this wanting to ask the same exact questions that are answered on their website is silly and I dont blame them for cutting you short. Before I started my procedure i stood 2 inches from Roberts head and looked at his procedure and I am telling you if he had this huge horseshoe on the back of his head I would not have even considered it. I did look at the other places, AC was by far the MOST expensive but after flying to LA and MN to see their work i knew I could not do it!!! I am grateful for the procedure, not ONE person has given my head a second glance in public because something was "off" and thats the true test. Oh and "****"!! That was just to offend you and your sensitive soul. lol

A couple more things, LOL! Spectator? Im taking action and going to a place that is fully staffed by educated professionals rather than 3 trailor park employees. The place I chose does not have a wannabe tattoo artist who answers phones, and has zero customer service skills. The place I am flying to does not post their own reviews on this forum pretending to be clients (as Im sure that is what youre doing Saved from Baldness or Mark/Robert/Gale if your prefer) because they are busy actually doing the procedure and helping people. The SMP clinic I decided on actually conducts over-the-phone consultations lasting up to an hour or more. AC can't answer the "difficult" questions over the phone b/c they are not educated enough on their own process to do phone consultations. As any of the REAL smp businesses will tell you, this is such an individualized process that there is no way that a website can possibly answer all questions (especially not their Jr High school project website). Isnt that part of what they are supposed to do, assist potential clients and supply information? For you to say that they have the right to treat people this way when they call genuinely seeking answers b/c the client should have read the website reveals how stupid you really are. And "crying like little girls who skinned their knees", LOL. You talk so "tough" from your little trashy hole in Florida, but I would give anything to stand toe to toe with you and see how tough you really are. Id punk you out and reveal the coward you are. Fortunately for you, I live very far from your neck of the trailor park and fortunately for me, I am not making the mistake of using Artistry Concepts. Future reference, be very careful who you disrespect. You are not qualified to back up that kind of talk. That I can prove!!!!!

[morrison]

I dont hang out in these forums like i used to

Ermmm, you never did hang around in these forums. On your first post on 08-16-2011 you stated that you had the procedure done 3 weeks ago and was bragging how good it was. So your procedure would have been around July 2011 (or a little earlier).

Yet in your post above you state the following:

I did look at the other places, AC was by far the MOST expensive but after flying to LA and MN to see their work i knew I could not do it!!!

By mentioning LA above you are referring to His Hair Clinic and with MN you are refering to Good Look Ink. The only thing is that His Hair Clinic did not open in LA until September 2011, so how on earth did you manage to go and visit them, prior to your treatment (in July 2011 or earlier), when they had not yet even opened????

You also stated the following above:

I met Robert IN PERSON and I sat in the chair while the phone rang in the receptionist area every 15 seconds and with all of the people that were calling about this wanting to ask the same exact questions that are answered on their website is silly and I dont blame them for cutting you short.

A phone call every 15 seconds? Wow, AC must surely be real busy if they are getting 240 calls every hour (or 2,400 in a typical 10 hour period). And if you were sat in the chair how do you know what was being said on the phone that was in the reception area?

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
-- Albert Einstein

Mark/Gale you sure are a fan of your quotes I recall you using a quote on your website from Winston Churchill when bashing one of your competitors.

[jholcollege11]

LOL awesome Morrison!!

BUSTED!!!!! Nice Morrison, you just conducted a tutorial on how to expose fake posts. Poor Artistry Concepts, won't they ever learn? Everytime AC does this, They say the exact same things using the exact same wording, but with different account names. I'm still waiting on the pictures from Dben and Savedfrombaldness by the way. I hope to steer many people, who are serious about this procedure, away from Artistry Concepts. No one deserves to be treated the way they treat customers who are just trying to improve their lives and self-confidence. I thank the Lord that they so openly showed me their true colors when I called. I do appologize to "actual" forum members for my previous angry post directed at AC. It just upsets me so much, as a man who has suffered from premature hairloss for 7 years, that a company like this is trying to divert people from good places, to AC's inferior product. The first email they sent me bashed both HIS hair clinic, and Good Look Ink. Their website claims that HIS will produce blue dots (which they cannot prove), and one email Gale (AC president) sent me accused Good Look Ink of paying the Better Business Bureau for an A- rating, and that they may not be an approved lender. What about that eloquent quote from Mark Weston's idol Albert Einstein- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." I suppose AC can talk a good game, but fail to put into practice their own sermons. I am very passionate about helping people, especially people who share my struggles, so every future opportunity I have to save someone from making the terrible mistake of going to artistry concepts, I will take full advantage of. I hope this is not considered "serial cyber-bullying" like AC claims to be a victim of on their site. I guess AC plays the role of the aggressor (like in "Savedfrombaldness' above post) and then the victim when it is convenient.

[morrison]

Looks like 'saved from baldness' also needs to be 'saved from blindness' as well

Before I started my procedure i stood 2 inches from Roberts head and looked at his procedure and I am telling you if he had this huge horseshoe on the back of his head I would not have even considered it.

Take a look at AC's website on the ACHM2 Difference page, at the bottom, and you will see a picture of their tech Robert, who has had the ACHM2 procedure done. Now you telling me that looks right? Would you want your head looking like that?

His natural hair colour (the horseshoe) is different in colour to the ACHM2 procedure which has been carried out on the top and sides of his head. You can clearly see a bald spot at the crown area. There can be no excuses like his procedure has just been done, it has to cure etc. This is the finished look on the head of their technician who carries out the procedure on others.

Below you can see the picture in question which can currently be found on the AC website (no doubt it will be removed from their site shortly).





Okay so he has a head with 2 different color tones, but what I don't get is why does he not get the bald spot filled in? Or has he realised that he would rather have a bald spot then have any more ACHM2 on his head?

It’s all makes sense now as to why there is not a single picture of any of their clients showing the back of head after their procedure on the AC website.

[jholcollege11]

Exactly!!!!

Yes when I was strongly considering AC, I noticed on ACs website this same photo and asked my girlfriend "am I crazy or does that guy in the picture have a bald spot on the back of his head?" She agreed, and so I searched the gallery up and down looking for pics of the back or crown areas of guys' heads and not one. This prompted me to email Gale at ac and ask (1) why are there no pics showing the crown area in your gallery and (2) is that a horseshoe bald spot on Roberts head who you say has had the achm2 procedure done? Her reply was "yes he now has a bald spot but that is due to further hair loss 2 years after procedure." Even if that is the case, rather than fading, it shows me that ac does not anticipate further hairloss when they perform this achm2 smp. She also responded with a link for their site that supposedly displayed a crown view of a client's head but it was a very sketchy angle. Gale also said the reason for only displaying the frontal views of clients is bc most men are more concerned about the hairline. What??? I agree the hairline is important but the most common site for hairloss on a man's head is the crown area. If anyone has a spare few minutes and a tolerance for bad web design, check out Artistry concepts photo gallery. I am not normally one to judge people, but every one of these guys looks seriously rough. Like maybe just to get a few clients they offered free achm2 work for bald guys down at the county jail, and just dressed them in street clothes for the pics. No CEO's or young professional men in that gallery. Ok sorry that was mean but a company's clients definitely reflect its product. It looks like they can only trick less thsn educated men into giving them money. Just saying! I hope I did not hurt your feelings on that one savedfrombaldness, as im sure you are the one exception

[stylus187]

Man,I can't believe how hateful these forums are! There is always one or two guys that WILL NOT believe that someone else is happy with what they got from AC. Well, its been almost a year since i had the procedure and i would do it again tomorrow. Im sure someone is going to come on here and say "no you wouldn't" or something 4th grade like that but I dont care and I dont hang out in these forums like i used to because I dont look bald anymore and i dont think about it anymore. Is it expensive...yes... does it hurt...yes... was it worth it??? God damn right it was!

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."
-- Albert Einstein

Sir... I'm not at all trying to be rude with what I posted! I'm just being completely honest from the results that I saw in person. He had this procedure done at Artistry Concepts. I asked him about it. Yes, I had a conversation with this guy, and we were talking about FUE procedure. To be 100% honest, it looked so unnatural I thought I was looking at a donor area from FUE scars. He asked me if it looks natural. I said it looks amazing, I was just curious where you had it done. I had to lie in order to have him from not feel insecure. In he-insight, it was rude of me to even start a conversation with him in the first place.. Listen... If your results came out great, I'm supper happy for you. I'm just simply sharing an honest story of what I saw first hand! From 6 feet away it looked like a number 1 guard height. In person, it ... "for choice of better words", it looked unnatural! I'm very particular about my appearance! Its not for me. Best wishes to anyone who decides to get this done.

[jholcollege11]

I suppose "Saved from Baldness" (AC) has taken his ball and gone home. Same exact sequence occured with Dben, one of their other profiles. AC creates a profile or uses one of their many existing ones, comes on this forum and claims how amazing AC is, throws a couple weak jabs, then disappears when they are discovered by more than one forum member. If anyone cares to see how they treat people read this... http://forum.*************.com/topic...erience-so-far
The biggest gripe I have with Artistry Concepts isn't that they do undercover posting, but that they are so focused and determined to bash their competitors. I believe they attempt to eliminate all of the potential client's options by slandering competitors, until AC is the only choice they have left. Instead of talking about how their supposively superior ACHM2 method works, and why it is so great, they focus so hard on trying to make their competition look bad. And when I say they talk bad about their competition, I mean they type bad about them, like in emails and on forums. They are too cowardly to talk to clients on the phone about anything, but give AC a keyboard and a mouse and it is on LOL. The first email I sent to Gale Harviston at AC, I told her that I was also looking into HIS hair clinic, New Hair Institute, and Good Look Ink. My very first response from her was filled with "beware of those other providers" and other scare tactics. Then she sent me A copy of a pending law suite AC has against Good Look Ink in Minnesota. I read it and it is only about a website NAME. What does that have to do with this procedure and a company's ability to perform it well. So petty. Even their video has a young African American man saying "well you know my head was so messed up from the other provider that I was so discouraged," or something like that, and then he goes on to say how amazing Mark and Gale are but my point is this- Not one element of their site is committed to glorifying their work, but every bit of it is dedicated to making other company's work sound horrible. When I asked Gale in an email if Artistry Concepts was a member of the Better Business Bureau, she said no and sent me a youtube link of a 60 minutes segment that covered a story on some businesses in the U.S. that are believed to pay the BBB for good ratings. Obviously, but indirectly, she was implying that Good Look Ink pays for their good rating. Pretty low Gale. Stick to riding horses sweetheart.

[morrison]

jholcollege11, for some reason when you try to post a link to HIS from this forum it blanks out the name (like it has done in your post above).

I've just used a url shortner so that hopefully that should work.

HIS vs. the competition....my experience so far....

http://niceurl.org/aaqz

[jholcollege11]

Awesome, thanks Morrison

[Delphi]

These head tattoo threads are either started by shills or responded to by shills. No one has such passion for head tattoos unless they have a business doing them. I’ve said it many times, you have to be out of your minds to even consider this as an option for hair loss!

[jholcollege11]

Delphi is a broken record

Delphi, Yeeessss, we know! You've said it before, and you say it again, and agian and again. "This is such a bad idea and you are crazy if you have this done." Got it! Thanks! You say anyone who responds on this forum is a shill, and if this is the case, Please explain to me who I shill for. I am passionate about this procedure b/c this is my answer to a problem that controls my life. I have enough hair on my head for this to give me a 3d illusion of hair, and too much hair to be a candidate for FUE at Bosley. If I was passionate about HT's would this make sense to you? If I was excited about talking about getting BB sized holes on the back of my head, with the insentive of having gross fake-looking little hairs on my head, that EVERYONE can spot a mile away, would this satisfy your judgemental hypocracy? The only thing I've said is that I have an appointment scheduled, but did not specify which place, so please help us understand what my "hidden agenda" is here. You need to focus on your own solution, and stop hating on people that have found there's. I hope you enjoy your life as a bitter person while you wait for the Biotech super cure to hit the market. Hold your breath while youre at it.

[stylus187]

Delphi, Yeeessss, we know! You've said it before, and you say it again, and agian and again. "This is such a bad idea and you are crazy if you have this done." Got it! Thanks! You say anyone who responds on this forum is a shill, and if this is the case, Please explain to me who I shill for. I am passionate about this procedure b/c this is my answer to a problem that controls my life. I have enough hair on my head for this to give me a 3d illusion of hair, and too much hair to be a candidate for FUE at Bosley. If I was passionate about HT's would this make sense to you? If I was excited about talking about getting BB sized holes on the back of my head, with the insentive of having gross fake-looking little hairs on my head, that EVERYONE can spot a mile away, would this satisfy your judgemental hypocracy? The only thing I've said is that I have an appointment scheduled, but did not specify which place, so please help us understand what my "hidden agenda" is here. You need to focus on your own solution, and stop hating on people that have found there's. I hope you enjoy your life as a bitter person while you wait for the Biotech super cure to hit the market. Hold your breath while youre at it.

Can I say one thing???? Ladies, and Gentlemen, We are all here to help and share stories. If you are not here to help, Why even bother??? Ia a type of guy, who wants everyone to be happy, or content with treatment! "We are losing sight what theses forums are for! " Im not preaching to anyone, Im just saying, the name calling, the jabs, the fake advertisements, and cropped pictures, need to stop! If we cant communicate respectfully and honestly, why even be a member here!!! This is just my opinion!

[Delphi]

Delphi, Yeeessss, we know! You've said it before, and you say it again, and agian and again. "This is such a bad idea and you are crazy if you have this done." Got it! Thanks! You say anyone who responds on this forum is a shill, and if this is the case, Please explain to me who I shill for. I am passionate about this procedure b/c this is my answer to a problem that controls my life. I have enough hair on my head for this to give me a 3d illusion of hair, and too much hair to be a candidate for FUE at Bosley. If I was passionate about HT's would this make sense to you? If I was excited about talking about getting BB sized holes on the back of my head, with the insentive of having gross fake-looking little hairs on my head, that EVERYONE can spot a mile away, would this satisfy your judgemental hypocracy? The only thing I've said is that I have an appointment scheduled, but did not specify which place, so please help us understand what my "hidden agenda" is here. You need to focus on your own solution, and stop hating on people that have found there's. I hope you enjoy your life as a bitter person while you wait for the Biotech super cure to hit the market. Hold your breath while youre at it.

I think you're a little paranoid my man. I was not referring to you as being a shill. Obviously there are some real people trying to get information about this bullshit treatment on these threads. My point was the they are guided by shills who pretend to be real posters.

I am not bitter and honestly have a very happy and fulfilling life. If you want to get your head tattooed, go right ahead, but in the end you will regret it and maybe you’ll think to your self, “is should have listened to that asshole Delphi when I had the chance”. Good luck with your head tattoo!

[jholcollege11]

Stylus, you are correct. I appologize for speaking that way and I will refrain from the arguing and spiteful comments in the future. I do want to utilize this forum to its max, and I agree that this is not possible when we argue. Delphi, I appologize for being rude. I was just frustrated b/c since I started researching SMP a couple months ago and reading these forums and blogs concerning this topic, Ive had to sort through your negative comments about this procedure. You always say the exact same things as you express your disapproval, so I cannot see how this helps people. You have made it clear many times that you don't agree with SMP, but you need to respect other people's opinions, decisions, and interests. If you dont agree with this procedure, you need to refrain from commenting on it. You don't help anyone by constantly criticizing. If you are interested in a particular topic, I would suggest that you stick to those forums. Just as you have questioned the motives (hidden or not) of other forum members, I honestly have to question your's when you have no personal interest in smp but you constantly comment on it. I am simply expressing my opinion, and do not want to start anything. Good luck with whatever solution you choose. I have chosen mine, and as a man you need to respect that.

[jholcollege11]

I think you're a little paranoid my man. I was not referring to you as being a shill. Obviously there are some real people trying to get information about this bullshit treatment on these threads. My point was the they are guided by shills who pretend to be real posters.

I am not bitter and honestly have a very happy and fulfilling life. If you want to get your head tattooed, go right ahead, but in the end you will regret it and maybe you’ll think to your self, “is should have listened to that asshole Delphi when I had the chance”. Good luck with your head tattoo!

And I think this is the kind of thing that Stylus187 is referring to when he says we need to communicate respectfully