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  • blackhairdude
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 31

    Propecia/Regain Question

    Ok! So I am aware that any benefits that are gained from prepecia will be lost if one stops taking. I am also aware that the same applys for Regain.

    My question is??? If I Take Propecia to save what hair I have left and then regain to gain a little more. Once the extra is gained can I drop the regain due to the fact that propecia keeps what you have??

    Hope that makes sense. Adam.

    P.S - How much more effective is the combo as oppose to just one. Personal accounts would be much appreciated as oppose to pure theory.
  • Dr. Glenn Charles
    IAHRS Recommended Hair Transplant Surgeon
    • Nov 2008
    • 2423

    #2
    Any time you are using either Rogaine and/or Propecia and have what appears to be stabalized the hair loss that means the treatments are working. If you stop either or both there is a chance that what was gained or held onto could be lost or let go.
    Dr. Glenn Charles
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    • Jeffrey Epstein, MD
      IAHRS Recommended Hair Transplant Surgeon
      • Nov 2008
      • 879

      #3
      It does seem that in some individuals, the combination of Propecia and minoxidil are more effective than either one alone. If you are getting the desired results, I would hesitate to discontinue one of them.
      Jeffrey S. Epstein, MD
      Foundation For Hair Restoration

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      • Tracy C
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 3125

        #4
        Originally posted by blackhairdude
        P.S - How much more effective is the combo as oppose to just one. Personal accounts would be much appreciated as oppose to pure theory.
        As you may know, most women cannot take Propecia or generic Finasteride. However women can take Spiro and use Rogaine to achieve similar effect as men can with Propecia and Rogaine. With that said, my experience is I had better results using both the topical and the oral medications. The oral medicine blocks the hormone that is triggering the hair loss - but it does nothing to stimulate hair to grow back. The topical medicine stimulates hair that can grow back to grow back - but it does nothing to block the hormone that is triggering the hair loss. The two medicines do two different things and when using them together, they help each other.

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        • z06guy
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 99

          #5
          Hi Tracy,

          where would I go to buy spiro? I'm thinking minoxidil and spiro would be just as good as minoxidil and finasteride.

          BTW what is the third item in 'the big three' I know it's minoxidil and finasteride. Is nizoral the last one? I'm gonna go buy some nizoral today either way.

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          • StressedToTheBald
            Inactive
            • Jan 2012
            • 452

            #6
            Originally posted by z06guy
            BTW what is the third item in 'the big three'
            The only big thing regarding 'big 3' is profits, billions of dollars beeing made and coming directly from the pockets of bald people. In every other way they're quasi solutions, both in the sense that they do not work with everyone and also importantly in the sense that they carry the significant risks of permanent erectile dysfunction, prostate cancer, depression etc.

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1527

              #7
              Originally posted by z06guy
              Hi Tracy,

              where would I go to buy spiro? I'm thinking minoxidil and spiro would be just as good as minoxidil and finasteride.
              I'm pretty sure she was talking about ORAL spiro which is very dangerous for men...

              Originally posted by z06guy
              BTW what is the third item in 'the big three' I know it's minoxidil and finasteride. Is nizoral the last one? I'm gonna go buy some nizoral today either way.
              nizoral 2%, yes.
              2% refers to the active ingredient ketoconazole which is proven to help with hair loss.

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              • z06guy
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 99

                #8
                Originally posted by 2020
                I'm pretty sure she was talking about ORAL spiro which is very dangerous for men...



                nizoral 2%, yes.
                2% refers to the active ingredient ketoconazole which is proven to help with hair loss.
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole#Hair_loss
                Thanks stressedtothebald for all the info but I'm willing to take the risk to strengthen my weak hairs and keep the rest of what I have. As shallow as it may sound I think my hair is what make me who I am.

                Since I'm in the very early stages of MPB I just want to put a stop to it at all costs. If I start whining like a wuss or develop man boobs I'll at least say. hey, at least I tried to combat hairloss with the most effective ways first.

                If all else fails, I'll retry the natural herb DHT blocker regimen

                It's really a shame that it's 2012 and there's no '99%' proven way of regrowing hair SAFELY but that's a story for another topic.

                2020, I've read that topical spiro is just as effective as finasteride except it only targets the DHT locally on the scalp. What is your opinion on topical spiro? Is it a prescription drug.

                Sorry for these 'n00b' questions...


                oh BTW this is 1% nizoral, is it good enough?

                I just found out 2% is the prescription strength

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                • 2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1527

                  #9
                  Originally posted by z06guy
                  2020, I've read that topical spiro is just as effective as finasteride except it only targets the DHT locally on the scalp. What is your opinion on topical spiro? Is it a prescription drug.
                  not even close... it's too weak, you'd be wasting money...


                  Originally posted by z06guy
                  oh BTW this is 1% nizoral, is it good enough?

                  I just found out 2% is the prescription strength

                  http://www.amazon.com/Nizoral-AntiDa...general_recs_2
                  This study claims that Nizoral 2% is about as effective as Minoxidil 2%:
                  Comparative data suggest that there may be a significant action of KCZ upon the course of androgenic alopecia and that Malassezia spp. may play a role in the inflammatory reaction. The clinical significance of the results awaits further controlled study in a larger group of subjects.



                  I haven't seen any studies where they used 1% and got good results.

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                  • z06guy
                    Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 99

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2020
                    not even close... it's too weak, you'd be wasting money...




                    This study claims that Nizoral 2% is about as effective as Minoxidil 2%:
                    Comparative data suggest that there may be a significant action of KCZ upon the course of androgenic alopecia and that Malassezia spp. may play a role in the inflammatory reaction. The clinical significance of the results awaits further controlled study in a larger group of subjects.



                    I haven't seen any studies where they used 1% and got good results.
                    Ok thanks man. You've been a great help to me. I suppose 1% is better than nothing until I get 2% from a doctor.

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #11
                      Originally posted by z06guy
                      Hi Tracy,

                      where would I go to buy spiro? I'm thinking minoxidil and spiro would be just as good as minoxidil and finasteride.
                      Males should not use Spiro. The chances of a male experiencing negative sexual side effects from Spiro are ginormous. To give you an idea, one of my girl friends used to be a boy. Spiro was one of the meds she took to change her body. If I were a guy, I would not be comfortable with Spiro in any form.



                      Originally posted by z06guy
                      oh BTW this is 1% nizoral, is it good enough?

                      I just found out 2% is the prescription strength.
                      I use 1% twice per week instead of 2% once per week.

                      Here is a link to a page from the American Hair Loss Association on treating women's hair loss. The active ingredient in Nizoral is discussed on this page. It is the seventh medication down.





                      Originally posted by z06guy
                      If all else fails, I'll retry the natural herb DHT blocker regimen.
                      No one has ever been able to slow down, stop or reverse hereditary hair loss with natural DHT blockers.



                      Originally posted by 2020
                      I haven't seen any studies where they used 1% and got good results.
                      There has only been one "semi-legitimate" study on Nizoral for treating hair loss and yes they studied the 2% strengh.

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                      • z06guy
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 99

                        #12
                        Hey thanks Tracy C. You always have good info in all your posts!

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