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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1064

    Originally posted by Morbo
    The only thing I'm saying is that it doesn't harm to be skeptical.
    Its better to be skeptical, than be a mug who believes this Replicel stuff word for word.

    Feck knows what will happen, I have serious doubts anything will happen before 2020 though.

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    • Kiwi
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1105

      Originally posted by sausage
      Its better to be skeptical, than be a mug who believes this Replicel stuff word for word.

      Feck knows what will happen, I have serious doubts anything will happen before 2020 though.
      I have doubts you know anything about what they know... which makes your doubts just more depressing crap to read on the internet :P

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1064

        Originally posted by Kiwi
        I have doubts you know anything about what they know... which makes your doubts just more depressing crap to read on the internet :P
        Cheers Kiwi. No point in mugging yourself. I just noticed a previous thread on here from 2009 stating Histogen should be available in 2 years time. Its 2 years 3 months since then, Where is this Histogen crap?

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        • Morbo
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 263

          Originally posted by Kiwi
          I have doubts you know anything about what they know...
          Do you?

          Are skeptical speculations any different from overly-optimistic speculations?

          We only have words, but no facts or proof. Only thing we can do is hope.

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          • Kiwi
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1105

            Originally posted by sausage
            Cheers Kiwi. No point in mugging yourself. I just noticed a previous thread on here from 2009 stating Histogen should be available in 2 years time. Its 2 years 3 months since then, Where is this Histogen crap?
            You do it quicker then.

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            • Kiwi
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1105

              Originally posted by Morbo
              Do you?

              Are skeptical speculations any different from overly-optimistic speculations?

              We only have words, but no facts or proof. Only thing we can do is hope.
              I only have what they say and logic.

              They say they have just injected their potion into all the phase 2 heads. That much is fact. Assuming they are not lying to FDA online for the whole planet to read.

              Logic and banking suggest that they wouldn't be investing their money (still) if they had nothing.

              And logic would also suggest that investors would not be putting money into them if they had not done due diligence.

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              • Kiwi
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1105

                Nobody is Happy!!!

                This is for all the people that speculate in the negative...

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                • sausage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1064

                  For all those who speculate in the positive:

                  on october 29, 2009 dr. gail naughton announced that histogen hair regrowth formula wil be available in asia in less then 2 years. histogen has just recieved additional funding to continue its asian trials. i believe that if histogens hair rejuvenation product is available in asia in 2 years , i believe that it will be

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                  • Kiwi
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1105

                    If that is aimed at me... where is the link to the persons just going of the facts?

                    Back then Histogen had not forseen the issues with the FDA. You're talking pre phase 1 bro. You havent even mentioned that fact that some jerk face pharmaceutical company tried to kibosh them and took them to court hence massively stalling them.

                    You're still linking us to meaningless outdated information.

                    For your own happiness I suggest reading / focusing on the current and up to date information and facts. Like I said what is important to notice now is that your links were pre phase 1 trials.

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                    • Morbo
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 263

                      Originally posted by Kiwi
                      I only have what they say and logic.

                      They say they have just injected their potion into all the phase 2 heads. That much is fact. Assuming they are not lying to FDA online for the whole planet to read.

                      Logic and banking suggest that they wouldn't be investing their money (still) if they had nothing.

                      And logic would also suggest that investors would not be putting money into them if they had not done due diligence.
                      We know from P1 it's safe.
                      We know from P2 so far it's still safe to this point.
                      Spencer Kobren asked the CEO about the progress so far and he claimed that it's a closed research and knew nothing about the current results, just as he said (after being asked about their goal), that P2 will be a failure if they don't grow hair. Which basically means that untill (hopefully) April we don't know yet if this actually grows hair.

                      The banking and the fact they're still researching means they see potential, this however does not mean they have a cure or solution.

                      Investors are buying shares (eventhough they have been dropping fast the past weeks) think or hope just like any other user here on this forum, it'll turn out something. This is however no guarantee for succes of the actual research.

                      You have no logic, just thoughts and speculations. We all have.

                      Again, I'm hoping like all of us this turn out someting. But I'm just stating the facts.

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                      • southasian
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22

                        Losing hope

                        Personally i'm seriously doubting any of these companies will come with a solution by 2015. I remember 2 years ago i read that Aderans would complete Phase II by end of last year - 2011. Lo and behold, we are into 2012 and now they say they're planning on completing Phase II in 2013!!! I once read that Dr. Rassman from baldingblog.com got many negative comments on his site after stating that hair cloning is very far away, and wouldn't be ready for another 10 years (Dr. Bernstein says the same thing). I see now what he meant. There is no way in hell i'll ever see a semi-full head of hair in my life, at least not in the youthful years that it will matter. Hair transplant probably isn't a good solution either, as one small strip from the donor area in the back will never be enough to cover an eventual Norwood 7 in my case. I'll just shave my head and live life. By the time these useless bastards release a solution, i'll be too old to care for it. God forsaken useless bastards!

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2005

                          Wouldn't kill you to exude some positivity and optimism mate.

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                          • southasian
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22

                            Sorry clandestine, just very frustrating to lose all my hair while in my 20s and knowing there isn't any real solution for at least half a decade.

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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2005

                              No need to be sorry, I feel for you. This is a tough battle, and I can only imagine how hard it's been for those members who are a little older now, not having had any new treatment options to hope for or look forward to.

                              All we can do is stay optimistic. And never should we let this affliction dictate how we live our lives.

                              That said, this condition is indeed life-changing. Hair, in most cases, is a big part of who we are as a person. It is intrinsically part of our identity for the better part of our youth. Here's to hoping for better treatment options in the near future.

                              Cheers.

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                              • Maradona
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 830

                                Replicel update interview

                                NBT Two-Minute Drill with David Hall, CEO of Replicel Life Sciences

                                January 30, 2012

                                We recently interviewed David Hall, CEO of Replicel Life Sciences Inc. (OTCBB:REPCF), on their upcoming Phase I/IIa clinical trial results “reveal” 90 or so days away.

                                With positive results expected from their current Phase I/IIa trial, Replicel will move immediately into a 100-patient dosing trial. Replicel hopes to build an overwhelming set of successful data for the patented RepliCel™ procedure for minimally invasive hair cell growth and implantation.

                                With two successful data-sets in hand, Replicel intends to sell its entire hair growth and implantation business to the highest Big Pharma/Big Bio bidder. NBT analyses the value of the follicular regeneration industry at about $500 million—or more than $10 a share with an expected 10 million share dilution from money raising activities in 2012.

                                NBT: In your pre-clinical trials with specially modified mice you saw 50% hair growth with cosmetically attractive density 100% of the time…Replicel is now roughly 90 days away from the release of your Phase I/IIa human trial results from 19 human patients. What should investors be looking at most?

                                DHall: These are the key data points: First and foremost, interim analysis is human safety. To date, we have seen no safety issues and frankly, we do not expect any. The second key interim object is an indication of efficacy at 6 months or specifically, the increase in density of existing hair and indication of new hair follicles. We will use all that data in the filing of our Investigational Medical Product Dossier which will go to the regulators for our Phase II/b 100-pateint dosing trial.

                                Remember this is the first look at 6 months for all the clinical trial patients…all patients will be measured again for hair growth and density at 12 and 24 months as well. We establish a baseline of results from day zero and then you measure results at 6, 12 and 24 months against that original baseline.

                                NBT: How do you measure results at the initial look?

                                DHall: The contract research organization (“CRO”) takes microscopic images of every patient…each patient dossier is reviewed at 6 months and all data is cleaned for 100% properly entered data. If any data is missing, the CRO and the clinic coordinate to enter the missing data.

                                Each patient has had one side of their scalp injected with a placebo and one side injected with their own dermal sheath cup cells. Our patents, as you know, are around the growth and implantation of the highly specialized dermal sheath cup cells vs. less-specialized cells. The CRO does 100% of the data collection. All data is blinded so RepliCel cannot review the data until it is un-blinded.

                                NBT: How much hair growth do you expect at 6 months?

                                DHall: Well first you have to answer that question in the context of existing “gold standard” surgical hair transplantation. In state-of-the-art micro-surgical procedures, in the first few months all the hair fibre in the area of the surgery falls out and begins to reappear around the six month time frame. It normally can take up to 18 months for the success or failure of the micro-surgery to become evident. In that context, virtually any amount of hair growth or hair density at 6 months for the RepliCel™ procedure would give us the data we need to immediately pursue the Phase II/b 100-patient dose-ranging clinical trial. What we are looking for is demonstration of increased fiber density of the existing hair from base line, as well as indication of new follicular growth.

                                We have also taken biopsies from a random sampling of patients to look, at a microscopic level, to see growth below the scalp. We are looking at these biopsies multi-dimensionally. That is to say, we are not just looking at the topical site—we are looking at small biopsies of the injection sites…looking at the angles of hair growth. It’s not good enough to grow hair, you have to have the appropriate growth orientations. That means cosmetically acceptable results…the animal trial got appropriate angles growing in a natural angle…not clustered in one little patchy area.

                                What we are ultimately looking for is evidence of cosmetically acceptable hair regeneration and increased density of hair follicles initially in the transplanted region of the scalp. Eventually, we expect to see actual regeneration of existing hair follicles NEAR the implanted region…as we saw in the pre-clinical animal trials. Regeneration of dormant hair follicles is the “secret sauce” of our procedure.

                                Even in the worst case scenario—i.e. zero response above the initial baseline at 6 months, we continue to gather the data through 12 and 24 months. Responders can come later, as is seen with micro transplants.

                                In short…this is pretty straight forward science: if you have ANY growth from the implanted autologous dermal sheath cup cells, one should expect to have MORE growth of both those new follicles and from dormant hair follicles that have regenerated.

                                NBT: What else is Replicel working on in the hair regeneration arena?

                                DHall: In parallel to our clinical trials, we are validating a number of cell markers for dermal sheath cup cells. These markers are very important because with their unique expression we could accelerate both our dermal sheath cup cell isolation and replication protocols. Speeding-up/improving both these aspects of the RepliCel™ procedure are helpful for its commercial application.

                                Each of these dermal sheath cells express certain proteins, proteins you ONLY find in the dermal sheath cup cells. To date, we have identified quite a number of unique protein markers. With these unique identifiers or “markers” we can almost completely automate our process and thus greatly accelerate the RepliCel™ procedure for the patient/clinician.

                                In short, as we create more efficiency and speed in the isolation and replication of the dermal sheath cup cells significant value is created for the company—more procedures per day/week/month means more revenues for the clinician.

                                NBT: When do you get an endpoint for this “hunt”?

                                DHall: There is no magic number for protein markers…we already have many targets. But by year end, we will get to the final end points. Remember, automating our isolation and growth procedures really adds significant value to the eventual sale of the RepliCel™ procedure. Automating the cell isolation also helps in the regulatory process…both in speed and in validating that the dermal sheath cells we are isolating and growing are ALWAYS the same cells and not a mix with other unwanted cell. We have a manual process right now for the isolation and regeneration protocol. For the next clinical trial they will use the manual procedure and we will seek to integrate the automated process in a new set of trials.

                                NBT: Anything else on your regulatory approval risk?

                                DHall: The beauty of working with autologous cells…meaning the patient’s own cells…is that we are using a particular cell population whose only purpose in life is to instruct a cellular cascade to grow hair fibers. Ours is a 100% completely different regulatory environment than if we were taking one type of cell and try to manipulate it into another type of cell…that kind of cell-based therapy is a VERY difficult regulatory environment…because every step of the way the cells have to be proven to be the SAME induced cell.

                                It’s really simple: in using a patient’s own cells we are only increasing the concentration of the cells…NOT changing those cells…all of which has MUCH lower safety and regulatory hurdles.

                                NBT: You have made it clear that assuming you have the clinical data to prove your procedure is the new standard in hair regeneration you will seek to sell the division in its entirety to a multi-national Big Pharma player. Why?

                                DHall: The biotech space is growing again…Big Pharm/Big Bio have BIG PROBLEMS with their patent cliffs and there is only so much M&A they can do at the high end. So, they have begun to change their strategies by partnering and acquiring technology further upstream.

                                If we show hair growth and continued growth in our 50 men/50 women dosing trials conducted under a clinical trial harmonized both for European and US FDA regulations, it will be an attractive asset. There is a very Darwinian nature in the Big Pharma/Big Bio ecosystem. Big Pharma and Big Bio are on the top of the “food chain”…and it is NO secret they need BIG numbers from new long-lived patented products to move the needle for their valuation. That is why we are doing everything to FDA standards. No shortcuts. If our science wins the day, the valuation of the RepliCel™ procedure given the $5 billion worldwide annual market for hair restoration products and services will be obviously enormous.

                                If we work hard and smart every day, we get a little closer to that reality.

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