Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[HairTalk]

Honestly, why don't you just wait and see what kind of results it gives ... if you have to pay hundreds of dollars for injections that only give you a couple of hair back, I don't think I'd buy it.

I want a CURE for my baldness, I want my hair back, not just some patchy results. I want a product that will reverse the process of balding.

I'm really sceptical how this product can give a Norwood 7 a full head of hair back ... I'm just not as positive as you guys.

PS : Sorry for my english.

Agreed; this is partly why I've asked Dr. Ziering whether the upcoming trial of H.S.C. will comprise subjects who show roughly a Norwood-VI class of baldness — I hope he answers.

Mojo,

I believe this is the product that will reverse the miniturization process better than any other, believe me, what I'm saying over and over is to advocate for an early release if they produce results with EFFICACY and SAFETY in their upcoming trail. You have nothing to lose to advocate for an earlier release but hair. It's worth the effort and if anyone believes the same I think it would be worthy to step up and say so.

I'm not sure what you mean, then, by advocating "early release." If the product passes safety and efficacy trials, of course it will come to market (barring an unforeseen problem getting it released). Until and unless that happens, it should not.

[CVAZBAR]

A cure for baldness? If that's the case, You should probably check in this forum once every 3 yrs or so. That's not going to happen any time soon. Literally reversing baldness from nw7 to full head is a long shot at this point. Now if Histogen has the ability to halt progression and thicken existing hair, that alone would be something great. You can create more density in existing hair and maybe work with that in combination with a HT or something. For those who are not that far on the NW scale may get some or most hair back. Still need to see what this thing can really do.

[Mojo Risin]

A cure for baldness? If that's the case, You should probably check in this forum once every 3 yrs or so. That's not going to happen any time soon. Literally reversing baldness from nw7 to full head is a long shot at this point. Now if Histogen has the ability to halt progression and thicken existing hair, that alone would be something great. You can create more density in existing hair and maybe work with that in combination with a HT or something. For those who are not that far on the NW scale may get some or most hair back. Still need to see what this thing can really do.

I mean, if you look at their results ... if it's only this kind of result that you get, if you're bald, you'll still look pretty bald to me.

[CVAZBAR]

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I mean, if you look at their results ... if it's only this kind of result that you get, if you're bald, you'll still look pretty bald to me.

True but remember it was only one injection on a very small area. Maybe the size of a dime. What would happen if you inject the whole head? What about more potency? I mean they can try several things. We still need to see what this can really do.

[KeepHoping]

What I mean by pushing for an earlier release is once phase 1/2 trails are completing proving that the product is safe and effective then they should release the product in countries that have less restrictions and continue on with their trials to have it released in Asia and the US afterward. Otherwise the consumers will have to wait through another long (1-2 years) phase 3 trail. I think this should be considered by Histogen, would bring in a lot of revenue to conduct more trails on more products as well as helping a lot of people in need out.

[gmonasco]

What I mean by pushing for an earlier release is once phase 1/2 trails are completing proving that the product is safe and effective

Phase I/II trials don't "prove that the product is safe"; at best they document that no significant problems have yet been uncovered. Plenty of treatments have cleared all trial testing and secured FDA approval, only to be recalled after later being connected to serious health issues.

[UK_]

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I mean, if you look at their results ... if it's only this kind of result that you get, if you're bald, you'll still look pretty bald to me.

Dr Ziering has already stated that they are at around 21 - 27% yield per cm2, if they can get to 45 - 50% that will bring back your original density, there is no reason why we couldn't use HSC to gain the density that even the best HT lacks.

[UK_]

What I mean by pushing for an earlier release is once phase 1/2 trails are completing proving that the product is safe and effective then they should release the product in countries that have less restrictions and continue on with their trials to have it released in Asia and the US afterward. Otherwise the consumers will have to wait through another long (1-2 years) phase 3 trail. I think this should be considered by Histogen, would bring in a lot of revenue to conduct more trails on more products as well as helping a lot of people in need out.

There are often two Phase III trials and even a Phase IV - never mind releasing it at Phase II - anything can be discovered when you go from a test sample of 50 - 100 patients to 300 - 3,000 patients. Each phase is always determining safety and efficacy, if you're in Phase III - You're not out of the woods yet. I am surprised Histogen are moving so fast in-fact, their proposals for a 2014 release could never be possible within the US - FDA trials typically consume a decade of research and practice before reaching market, so be thankful they are pursuing research in Asia and dont take current progress for granted, slow progress is better than no progress.

[ThinFast]

I try not to check into this thread often because it's discouraging. The reality for someone with aggressive hair loss is frustrating because I will lose everything before this product comes to the market. Based off of what posters are saying, those who will benefit most are those who still have some hair left. I currently do, but that will not be the case by 2014. I've been battling this for 3.5 years and will be at a point where I can't hide it anymore before this year is over.

[Jcm800]

And how much is this likely to cost when/if it becomes available?

A damn fortune I expect, so that's me and many other sufferers out of the picture.

[UK_]

And how much is this likely to cost when/if it becomes available?

A damn fortune I expect, so that's me and many other sufferers out of the picture.

Dont know but it sure as hell wont be a month of minimum wage.

[UK_]

To be honest even it costs £50k id do it - id splash all my savings for a better treatment for hair loss - hair is priceless - we all know that, just look at the sheer passion for hair we see on this website lol its great!

[CVAZBAR]

I try not to check into this thread often because it's discouraging. The reality for someone with aggressive hair loss is frustrating because I will lose everything before this product comes to the market. Based off of what posters are saying, those who will benefit most are those who still have some hair left. I currently do, but that will not be the case by 2014. I've been battling this for 3.5 years and will be at a point where I can't hide it anymore before this year is over.

If you still have hair, I doubt you will lose everything by 2014. You will
Be fine. We might lose some but not all.

[RichardDawkins]

So why are you guys so about it? Fact is, there was significant sustaining hair growth even after a critical two years mark.

Even if it would just give people back around 40% of their original density, those people could easily use something like Gho for a transplant or so and we all won

[CVAZBAR]

So why are you guys so about it? Fact is, there was significant sustaining hair growth even after a critical two years mark.

Even if it would just give people back around 40% of their original density, those people could easily use something like Gho for a transplant or so and we all won

So what Dr Gho has done is legit? Is it official? Spencer can't get a hold of him.