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  • boldat25
    Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 33

    Will an official cure ever be found? Honestly

    I feel like we've all been told for years they're working on treatment they're working on the cure very soon they are going to find a cure. Blah blah blah! Do you guys honestly think A cure will ever be reached in our lifetime?
  • Not giving up
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 166

    #2
    Probably yes, or at least a great treatment that stops the balding process dead in its tracks (not regrowth.)

    Wouldnt surprise me if it's found by accident - an angle we're not looking at. Much like fin and minox were discovered by accident to benefit hair there is a good chance the next big thing will be from something totally unintentional.

    Will there be something in our lifetime? Sure. Will it be FDA approved and on the market before this generation of forum users go totally bald? Less likely, but let's stay hopeful.

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    • Occulus
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 116

      #3
      Originally posted by boldat25
      I feel like we've all been told for years they're working on treatment they're working on the cure very soon they are going to find a cure. Blah blah blah! Do you guys honestly think A cure will ever be reached in our lifetime?
      What is the definition of "our lifetime?" 40 years? 50 years? 60 years? Absolutely. Sooner than that? Probably, but who knows how much sooner.

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      • mcarpenter089
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 61

        #4
        No there wont be. Let your hair go and become a rich doctor. Then run off the plug twice lol

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        • Follisket
          Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 61

          #5
          Originally posted by boldat25
          I feel like we've all been told for years they're working on treatment they're working on the cure (...)
          Yeah, all four of them.

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          • BaldingEagle
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 377

            #6
            Originally posted by Follisket
            Yeah, all four of them.
            More like 20 years we've been teased with "breakthroughs".

            Anyone with a brain that wants hair is on Fin, everyone else is going to end up bald and disappointed.

            I'm not a fan of playing with my hormones but I'd rather suffer mild sides than be "the bald guy".

            I also agree with Notgivingup, it will likely be found accidentally during research or medicines treating conditions society actually cares about.

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            • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 342

              #7
              Originally posted by BaldingEagle
              I also agree with Notgivingup, it will likely be found accidentally during research
              I don't know why this seems the more likely route when deliberate efforts based on ever-improving understanding of hair follicle science have been underway for a good few years now, by many teams with differing approaches. As far as I'm aware, some apparent facts are:

              - Bimatoprost confirmed to work and works somewhat better than minoxidil, one trial round away from release, already bought out by Allergan.
              - Setipiprant also believed to be promising, also already acquired by Allergan, suspected to enhance effectiveness of Bimatoprost.
              - SM04554 preliminary news is that it works (having been tested on high norwoods, significantly), two trial rounds away from release.
              - Histogen confirmed work with very significant results, assuming they haven't added fake hair to the heads they've photographed, and have been making bold statements about release dates, one trial round away from release.
              - Replicel haven't released any news on efficacy for a long time, but have supposedly improved their approach from the unimpressive results from years ago and have recently partnered with Shiseido and have recently been making bold statements about release dates (both Replicel and Histogen claiming 2018 releases as things stand). One trial round away from release.
              - Pilofocus allegedly offers regrowth of extracted follicles from a preliminary trial, although not confirmed. A few trial rounds away from release regardless of this as a scarless hair transplant option with higher graft survival rates than FUE. Which makes getting a transplant less of a gamble and expands what can be achieved with a transplant.

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              • Follisket
                Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 61

                #8
                Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                More like 20 years we've been teased with "breakthroughs".
                I was actually refering to the number of researchers working on the degeneracy

                Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                Anyone with a brain that wants hair is on Fin, everyone else is going to end up bald and disappointed.

                I'm not a fan of playing with my hormones but I'd rather suffer mild sides than be "the bald guy".
                So would I. Though sadly, I don't consider complete impotence and a shrunken ice cold penis a mild side effect. I understand there's people who don't seem to be getting any sides on fin - or suffer only mild ones - but implying that those of us not on fin are brainless and deserve baldness is total d*ckage.
                It's bad enough having no treatment to halt or slow down hair loss without having to deal with ignorant comments like that.

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                • BaldingEagle
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 377

                  #9
                  The vast majority of men don't suffer complete impotence. My comment is aimed at those so terrified to even try the only thing that works, yet claim they care about their hair. I bet they don't shy from taking cold medicine or Tylenol, drugs that actually kill people every year.

                  If you get severe side effects that sucks and I feel for you. But you won't find some new magic cure perusing the forum every day. When something comes out that works you'll hear about it.

                  I apologize to those whom can't tolerate fin, my comment was not directed at that minority. I was speaking to those whom haven't even tried it.

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                  • BaldingEagle
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 377

                    #10
                    Originally posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
                    I don't know why this seems the more likely route when deliberate efforts based on ever-improving understanding of hair follicle science have been underway for a good few years now, by many teams with differing approaches. As far as I'm aware, some apparent facts are:

                    - Bimatoprost confirmed to work and works somewhat better than minoxidil, one trial round away from release, already bought out by Allergan.
                    - Setipiprant also believed to be promising, also already acquired by Allergan, suspected to enhance effectiveness of Bimatoprost.
                    - SM04554 preliminary news is that it works (having been tested on high norwoods, significantly), two trial rounds away from release.
                    - Histogen confirmed work with very significant results, assuming they haven't added fake hair to the heads they've photographed, and have been making bold statements about release dates, one trial round away from release.
                    - Replicel haven't released any news on efficacy for a long time, but have supposedly improved their approach from the unimpressive results from years ago and have recently partnered with Shiseido and have recently been making bold statements about release dates (both Replicel and Histogen claiming 2018 releases as things stand). One trial round away from release.
                    - Pilofocus allegedly offers regrowth of extracted follicles from a preliminary trial, although not confirmed. A few trial rounds away from release regardless of this as a scarless hair transplant option with higher graft survival rates than FUE. Which makes getting a transplant less of a gamble and expands what can be achieved with a transplant.
                    What's the one thing in common they all have? None have made it to phase 3 trials. No drug since finasteride has. Let's talk when they make it to p3, let alone prove they work.

                    I want a new treatment as much as anybody else, but let's be realistic here.

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                    • dutchguyhanging
                      Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 89

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BaldingEagle
                      The vast majority of men don't suffer complete impotence. My comment is aimed at those so terrified to even try the only thing that works, yet claim they care about their hair. I bet they don't shy from taking cold medicine or Tylenol, drugs that actually kill people every year.

                      If you get severe side effects that sucks and I feel for you. But you won't find some new magic cure perusing the forum every day. When something comes out that works you'll hear about it.

                      I apologize to those whom can't tolerate fin, my comment was not directed at that minority. I was speaking to those whom haven't even tried it.
                      then my comment to you why do you wanna put your health at risk by taking this pill everyday for the rest of your life? Once you start, you are in for life.. no way out.. taking a certain drug for a quite extended period doesnt seem logical to me either

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                      • JDW
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 108

                        #12
                        Optimistic about histogen following their latest round of interviews and if pilofocus works out as hoped (plus regeneration as a positive extra) then that's two massive massive strides

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                        • boldat25
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 33

                          #13
                          Ya from where I'm sitting we are all screwed when it comes to acutual re growth for the foreseeable future.

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                          • Hairmore
                            Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 80

                            #14
                            I find the following things more likely to happen BEFORE there will be a treatment that will be really significantly better than the existing ones so that it could be considered as a 'cure':

                            - First man on mars
                            - Self driving cars make up the majority of cars
                            - All glaciers are gone from planet earth
                            - Human population reaches 10 billion
                            - Fossil fuels lose its importance to regenerative energies

                            When will we will get a cure? Sometime when we live but I believe it will be at least 30 years.

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                            • bigentries
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 465

                              #15
                              Of course a cure will be found, I see no reason to believe the contrary

                              It's not like we are trying to grow amputated fingers, several cases of complete regrowth have been documented, not only with minox or fin. We don't really know exactly what processes are involved, but surely someone will find out in the future

                              Now, will a good treatment be found in the near future? I already lost my hopes about that. SM seems like the dark horse here since they are so secretive and are moving in an untypical fast way

                              I'll only get excited when there's unquestionable proof of regrowth, after seeing that, I don't care if it takes a decade for commercialisation. I want to see something that works

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