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  • JayM
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 411

    #16
    Wait so hang on this is a massive contradiction. Treatments aren't cures because they create side effects (which is just wrong BTW) but what you are doing with juicing and putting it on your head is a treatment so with that logic there should be side effects?

    And fin works amazing well just like other NATURAL products which inhibit my DHT. As a personal treatment it has reduced above average DHT, grown hair, and reduced body hair (a pro side effect for me).

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    • Herbaliser
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 436

      #17
      Iīm not trying convince anybody since i cant prove it, because this is my experience and natural remedies will never be proven because there is money in it.
      You can reverse your hair loss by your own, but the ongoing fortune wheel made you think otherwise, since itīs business for them as in this forum.

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      • Herbaliser
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 436

        #18
        Originally posted by JayM
        Wait so hang on this is a massive contradiction. Treatments aren't cures because they create side effects (which is just wrong BTW) but what you are doing with juicing and putting it on your head is a treatment so with that logic there should be side effects?

        And fin works amazing well just like other NATURAL products which inhibit my DHT. As a personal treatment it has reduced above average DHT, grown hair, and reduced body hair (a pro side effect for me).
        ?

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        • jamesst11
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 1110

          #19
          Herbaliser,
          Here's the thing I am having trouble understanding, if you could clear it up - Being an athlete, I have encountered countless numbers of people that are on a very similar regiment as you, and have been for years... several of them are slick bald. Am I missing something? Do you believe that this regiment can work, however, only for certain genotypes?

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          • ShookOnes
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 213

            #20
            Originally posted by jamesst11
            Herbaliser,
            Here's the thing I am having trouble understanding, if you could clear it up - Being an athlete, I have encountered countless numbers of people that are on a very similar regiment as you, and have been for years... several of them are slick bald. Am I missing something? Do you believe that this regiment can work, however, only for certain genotypes?

            This guys a straight troll probably doesn't believe that 3d printing organs can't work either. Dunno why u guys respond to such uneducated dumb people looking for Internet attention for his own balding depression

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            • PatientlyWaiting
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1639

              #21
              Originally posted by joachim
              pfff... just a guy who wants some attention. yes, we don't get it by now. there will never be a cure because our body rejects everything. what a nonsense. useless thread.
              Well he kinda makes a point. Is there a cure out there for anything at all? Everything is a treatment, even for cold and flu. It's 2015 and we don't have one cure for any illness or immune system disorder, etc.

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1639

                #22
                Originally posted by ShookOnes
                This guys a straight troll probably doesn't believe that 3d printing organs can't work either. Dunno why u guys respond to such uneducated dumb people looking for Internet attention for his own balding depression
                Will there be 3D printing for hair follicles or is that still a long way to go?

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                • ShookOnes
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 213

                  #23
                  Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                  Will there be 3D printing for hair follicles or is that still a long way to go?
                  It is not as intricate as the human heart. They've already put working EARS into humans for ****s sake.

                  Yet I still believe it will be a long time. This field does not have enough talent in it. One already jumped ship for cancer. Dr.O or something lol.

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                  • baldybald
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 249

                    #24
                    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                    Will there be 3D printing for hair follicles or is that still a long way to go?
                    Long way to go

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                    • Herbaliser
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 436

                      #25
                      I apologize for my clumsy topic thread "donīt you get it by now"
                      I just have a different view of hair loss, and i do hope yours sake that they will find a solution.
                      But the main issue is that itīs hard to fool the body thinking otherwise in long term, and therefore the enormous wait because the body docent interact with synthetic drugs correctly.

                      I found my way to reverse it, and i just thought why not use something in symbiosis, non supplemental and freshness (enzymes, oxidation).
                      But like many mentioned that it is incredible that we are in 2015, and still they have not found a secure treatment but i think the reason is as above mentioned.

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                      • Hair Bear
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 115

                        #26
                        Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                        Well he kinda makes a point. Is there a cure out there for anything at all? Everything is a treatment, even for cold and flu. It's 2015 and we don't have one cure for any illness or immune system disorder, etc.
                        Fruits and Vegetables have been around longer than we have yet I have never seen or heard of anyone with credible data which has cured hair loss by rubbing a turnip on their heads so everyone's point is moot.

                        We are better to focus on bettering ourselves scientifically and that covers all avenues of research which include natural remedies.

                        I'd also like to say that as many pharma companies are liars, thief's and scammers there are just as many in the naturopath sector which do much the same if not worse, some even occasioning death... DEATH!!

                        So lets just allow the research to progress and see how it unfolds.

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                        • Herbaliser
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 436

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hair Bear
                          Fruits and Vegetables have been around longer than we have yet I have never seen or heard of anyone with credible data which has cured hair loss by rubbing a turnip on their heads so everyone's point is moot.

                          We are better to focus on bettering ourselves scientifically and that covers all avenues of research which include natural remedies.

                          I'd also like to say that as many pharma companies are liars, thief's and scammers there are just as many in the naturopath sector which do much the same if not worse, some even occasioning death... DEATH!!

                          So lets just allow the research to progress and see how it unfolds.
                          Oki.
                          I don't think you got my point and there is no money gain in natural ingredients used freshly since you canīt patent it, bottled oils or synthetic pills docent work since your body docent know how to digest it properly.

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                          • Herbaliser
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 436

                            #28
                            You are getting there Patently Waiting.

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                            • burtandernie
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1568

                              #29
                              Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                              Well he kinda makes a point. Is there a cure out there for anything at all? Everything is a treatment, even for cold and flu. It's 2015 and we don't have one cure for any illness or immune system disorder, etc.
                              Yeah but thats ignoring the fact that there are no cures simply because it currently just cant be done. They are all treatments because it has to be like that. There is no way to just remove DHT completely forever with one single cure or treatment. Maybe someday it will be, but the current state of medicine its not possible.

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                              • BrianH123
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 15

                                #30
                                The reason we can't cure most of the ailments you speak of is because there is money , billions of dollars , and hundreds if not thousands of workers, who rely on the companies not,having a cure so they can keep their jobs. If we cured hairloss , all the companies who "treat us" would lose billions and since those companies tend to be gigantic pharmaceutical companies we are shit out of luck... It's comparable to engineer who creates an engine that runs on water not gas, and he gets bought for a billion dollars and they put his patent on the shelf .. There is a cure, we just don't have it yet.

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