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  • jamesst11
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 1110

    #16
    Originally posted by fred970
    What are FALSE women? Why do you mock women who frequent clubs? Is it because they wouldn't ever give you the time of the day? Probably.

    You f*cking her is all that matters. Otherwise you're just her friend, her servant who does all these nice little things for her, and she exploits you, she doesn't respect you enough to have sex with you.

    Anyone can become some girl's orbiter. How is that an accomplishment? A healthy romantic relationship without sex? Tell me more.

    Bald men in a relationship have been settled for. No woman has "bald" on her shopping list. She will resent you for not having hair.

    Have you been bald? Nope, so you can't speak from experience. I can. As soon as you have an argument with her, guess what she attack first?
    Fred,
    Let me clear a few things up.

    1) I never used to word "false", although that you bring that up, I do believe that there are people that act "false" when it comes to relationships

    2) How the hell have I "mocked" any one here. I will restate what I said previously so it's more clear and break it down. In the U.S., at least, the MAJORITY of people that frequent clubs are those that are mostly looking to party. It is loud, every one is usually drunk and most of the people are quite young. I apologize if this does not apply to you and your current situation and experiences.

    3) Who the f*ck orbits women? I never have and never will be taken advantage of like that. I do nice things for her and she does the same for me.

    4) F*cking her is all that matters? No, real women and men in their 30's that want a relationship that lasts don't jump right into sex. I did that throughout my 20's and it complicated things. We pleasure each other in other ways for now, and she goes out of her way to do things that are of absolutely no benefit to herself because she likes me and wants something more (not that any of this is your business).

    5) "a healthy romantic relationship without sex? tell me more" O.K. we've been hanging out for 3 weeks bruh, get a grip.

    6) NO I have not been bald. I wish every single night that I had progressed into baldness delicately. Instead I was one of those idiots that disfigured himself with a hair transplant because I was thinning and overly vain. Have you ever been disfigured, fred?
    Have you ever been forced to wake up every morning spend an hour on your f*cking hair, come it in a way to hide bad hair transplants, plaster it with hair spray and pray your not in a situation involving rain or strong wind?

    A woman will resent me when I am truly bald as much as I would resent a woman for having horrible acne or something. It is true though that once you become so enamered by someone, these things may still be somewhat significant, but much less noticeable.

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    • DAVE52
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 776

      #17
      Originally posted by fred970
      Bald men in a relationship have been settled for. No woman has "bald" on her shopping list. She will resent you for not having hair.
      ?
      What a stupid statement

      What happens when you grow older and lose your hair does she dump you because you don't have hair anymore

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      • jamesst11
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1110

        #18
        Originally posted by DAVE52
        What a stupid statement

        What happens when you grow older and lose your hair does she dump you because you don't have hair anymore
        She will dump you for a NW1. Bald men have never and will never be in secure, happy relationships. haha

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        • atthekeysbored
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 12

          #19
          Originally posted by DAVE52
          What a stupid statement

          What happens when you grow older and lose your hair does she dump you because you don't have hair anymore
          She'll probably be ugly herself at that point, and have kids to worry about, she'll just withdraw access to sex and fantasize about the boys on your daughter's bedroom wall (bieber, harry styles(while he holds on) etc.)

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          • fred970
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 924

            #20
            Originally posted by DAVE52
            What a stupid statement

            What happens when you grow older and lose your hair does she dump you because you don't have hair anymore
            Yes. It happens more than you think: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/roma...ed-him-anymore

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            • Johny41
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 145

              #21
              Originally posted by fred970
              Yes. It happens more than you think: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/roma...ed-him-anymore
              Well, I haven't read all the threads there, but I consider that it is just an opinion of several women. As about the suggestion to divorce, may it is the correct one, because a woman who discusses her husband online and shares her negative feelings towards her partner with absolutely unknown people, is not likely to love him. I think that in this particular case, the problem is not in his baldness, but in the initial absence of love.
              Moreover, I think it is just a way to clear herself.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4423

                #22
                Originally posted by DAVE52
                It's not the hair , it's your confidence
                That is a disgusting lie. Confidence is a byproduct of predictability. No woman EVER has said 'I want to sleep with that guy because he's confident'.

                It's ALL about looks.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 876

                  #23
                  This is an interesting discussion we've got going here. I can see everyone's points to a certain agree, although I do not agree with the simple "confidence" part. Confidence needs to stem from something, a person cannot simply be confident for no reason. And in today's increasingly aesthetic society, a person's outer looks are going to matter first and foremost, and will always be the primary factor. Of course, inner qualities will matter once a relationship progresses, but outer looks are what "gets you in the door" and causes that initial attraction that ultimately leads to a relationship. And having a full head of hair is just so integral to a person's outer appearance, a completely difference-maker. Also, a woman's need for physical attraction to her mate never goes away and I guess that is why that woman (no matter how much of an idiot she is) on that loveshack site that Fred linked is starting to look elsewhere. And quite honestly, I would feel terribly awkward if I was in a relationship with a woman who liked me for my kindness and generosity but was not attracted to me physically.

                  All of this kind of contributes to my dilemma as well. I've been a muscular weight-lifter for a long time and on paper, I'd be the ideal guy who could pull off the shaved head/bad-ass look. But I just cannot bring myself to do it. Despite my size, I am not the most self-assured guy and although I am already depressed due to hair loss, I feel that shaving my head would magnify my depression tenfold.

                  James, you are right though. Although outer looks really are the primary determining factor, other things do matter. I used to be on a dating website and one girl on there mentioned that she wanted a "bad boy with a good heart". I really feel like that describes me to a T. Although I look intimidating due to my size, and I love rocking out at my metal shows with my long hair, I still always took pride in performing kind gestures for women, showing them my sensitive side, and treating them with kindness and respect. But still, those are all really complementary and secondary things though. Outer looks are still first and foremost. Sometimes I try and convince myself that even if I do shave my head, that I can still get women through my size and muscles. Women do like that sense of security of being with a guy that can protect them, I've had several tell me that in the past but I just cannot bring myself to do it.
                  Yet I just cannot bring myself to do it, due to some the points I have alluded to in this post.

                  Lastly, with all due respect, is your hair really that bad, James? I've seen cases of people who have had premature hair transplants yet they still retain a ton of hair.
                  Last edited by DepressedByHairLoss; 09-21-2015, 11:57 PM. Reason: grammar

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                  • Vic
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 365

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    That is a disgusting lie. Confidence is a byproduct of predictability. No woman EVER has said 'I want to sleep with that guy because he's confident'.

                    It's ALL about looks.
                    There have been times I've walked into a club and had a girl come up to me, ask me to dance just because I "stood tall". I'm 34, balding, terrible hairline and yet every single time I go out I have women around me. Why, because I talk to them, make them laugh and of course... Buy them drinks. Lol. I have a 25 year old girl that calls me every now and then to hook up. She's very cute, double D's and yet chooses me over guys with NW1's.
                    Confidence is crucial. The way you walk, talk and compose yourself draws women to you. Hang your head, feel sorry for yourself because you're not a model and girls can sense your weakness.
                    I wish I had a full head of hair and will continue to work towards having hair again but won't be living on the sidelines just because I'm balding.

                    An experience I had; dancing with a girl at a club, got her to come home with me because I TOLD her with CONFIDENCE we were going to **** tonight. She said no at 1st but I told her, YES we are and guess who got laid that night... Yep, me!

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                    • fred970
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 924

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Vic
                      There have been times I've walked into a club and had a girl come up to me, ask me to dance just because I "stood tall". I'm 34, balding, terrible hairline and yet every single time I go out I have women around me. Why, because I talk to them, make them laugh and of course... Buy them drinks. Lol. I have a 25 year old girl that calls me every now and then to hook up. She's very cute, double D's and yet chooses me over guys with NW1's.
                      Confidence is crucial. The way you walk, talk and compose yourself draws women to you. Hang your head, feel sorry for yourself because you're not a model and girls can sense your weakness.
                      I wish I had a full head of hair and will continue to work towards having hair again but won't be living on the sidelines just because I'm balding.
                      You must be a white guy living in an Asian country. This never happens to me or anyone I know.

                      Women doesn't "sense" weakness. That's just BS. She senses and clearly sees good looks and good genes.

                      Do you think all of us are walking with our head down mumbling "Hello, will you like me please?!" to every woman out there?

                      Confidence can make things easier if you've already attracted women as a bald man and can reproduce the results constantly enough.

                      As hellouser said, it's a product of predictability. What if those successes never happens? You can't just become confident out of the blue.

                      You're not even bald, you just have a receding hair line. Wait until you're bald.

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                      • Vic
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 365

                        #26
                        Originally posted by fred970
                        You must be a white guy living in an Asian country. This never happens to me or anyone I know.

                        Women doesn't "sense" weakness. That's just BS. She senses and clearly sees good looks and good genes.

                        Do you think all of us are walking with our head down mumbling "Hello, will you like me please?!" to every woman out there?

                        Confidence can make things easier if you've already attracted women as a bald man and can reproduce the results constantly enough.

                        As hellouser said, it's a product of predictability. What if those successes never happens? You can't just become confident out of the blue.

                        You're not even bald, you just have a receding hair line. Wait until you're bald.
                        I'm not bald, but horrible uneven hairline which is almost as bad as being bald. But I do look good with a buzzed head. People have told me I actually look better now then when I had hair so you have a point.

                        The reason that never happens to you is your personality Fred.

                        I'm white living in Los Angeles, one of the most vein cities on Earth. But even girls here can sense a guy's confidence.

                        Our basic instincts drive us and girls are looking for an "Alfa" male so if you don't believe in yourself, guess what, it shows and girls DO SENSE it. It's a part of their basic instincts. To weed out the weak and reproduce with the strong. No matter their hairline.

                        Lots of girls will hook up because of looks but they'll also hook up because you are the "MAN".

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                        • Vic
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 365

                          #27
                          Confidence is simple, just don't care what others think of you. That's it. Especially someone you've never met and most likely will never see again. That's all it takes to be confident.
                          An example; after work one day I went to a party. I was in my suit and tie. A girl walked up to me and said "I like your fashion sense, I just finished fashion school in Europe but you need to lose the tie clip, that's out of fashion". I laughed in her face and said "WOW your parents spent all that money on you and you don't even know clip ties are in fashion!?!"
                          She was shocked but her friends laughed and yes, she liked me even after I made a fool of her, probably more so.

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                          • Johny41
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 145

                            #28
                            @Vic you are so right! Thanks for your comments. I'm pleased to find out that someone else has the same opinion about the importance of self-confidence.

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                            • fred970
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 924

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Vic
                              I'm not bald, but horrible uneven hairline which is almost as bad as being bald. But I do look good with a buzzed head. People have told me I actually look better now then when I had hair so you have a point.

                              The reason that never happens to you is your personality Fred.

                              I'm white living in Los Angeles, one of the most vein cities on Earth. But even girls here can sense a guy's confidence.

                              Our basic instincts drive us and girls are looking for an "Alfa" male so if you don't believe in yourself, guess what, it shows and girls DO SENSE it. It's a part of their basic instincts. To weed out the weak and reproduce with the strong. No matter their hairline.

                              Lots of girls will hook up because of looks but they'll also hook up because you are the "MAN".
                              They can see my personality just by looking at me. Right. Because girls have sex with your personality.

                              What are your stats? How many lays, how many make-outs, how many dates? No one gives a f-ck about girls looking at you.

                              This doesn't mean anything. What's next, you're going to brag about how many phone numbers you got?

                              Originally posted by Vic
                              Confidence is simple, just don't care what others think of you. That's it. Especially someone you've never met and most likely will never see again. That's all it takes to be confident.
                              An example; after work one day I went to a party. I was in my suit and tie. A girl walked up to me and said "I like your fashion sense, I just finished fashion school in Europe but you need to lose the tie clip, that's out of fashion". I laughed in her face and said "WOW your parents spent all that money on you and you don't even know clip ties are in fashion!?!"
                              She was shocked but her friends laughed and yes, she liked me even after I made a fool of her, probably more so.
                              That's cute. Have you f-cked her?

                              We're talking about sex only here, that's what most men will care about.

                              You know who else likes confident people? Everyone! That doesn't mean these women were wetting their panties over you.

                              Stop being delusional. Only looks will matter when it comes to sexual attraction. Confidence isn't worth jack.

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                              • Vic
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 365

                                #30
                                I'm not bragging, I'm trying to help these younger guys. Your entire mentality is wrong if you believe you're not good enough for women if you don't get laid the moment you meet a girl.
                                One night stands almost never happen. The girl has to either be a complete slut or you need to be a 9-10.
                                The way it works in the real world(outside your narrow minded view of social behavior) is you meet a girl and go out with her. Your personality keeps her coming back to you.
                                If you hit it off with a girl you meet, 1st date is usually just a date. If you are confident in yourself and make her laugh then you'll most likely get laid by the 3rd date. 2nd if she really likes you. And if she's a "Good girl" it could take months!
                                Basing your self worth on how many 1 night stands you have is by far the WORST, most childish immature way to gauge how girls feel about you.

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