someone give me some support/advice

[Diesel15]

I understand that my hair has the potential to recede even after the HT. My doctor informed me of this too. He also told me having a HT is even more reason to use things like rogaine and finasteride, but like I said, I'm going to leave finasteride alone. Minoxidil fine. Ketoconazole, fine. But I just don't have the time or the desire to put up with the potential side affects of propecia.

I'm not sure exactly what you hoped to achieve with this thread but you seem to be glossing over some important facts. BT has contributed more to this forum than 99% of the people that post here. His advice is sound regardless of whether or not you agree with his tact. Considering your age and the aggressiveness of your hair loss, future loss is a near certainty even with treatments. If you take the emotion out of this equation what you are left with is this:

Chances of future loss without an AA >90%
Chances of side effects with an AA 5%

If you like those odds then go ahead with the procedure. If this is as important to you as you say then you'll figure out a way to come up with the $3K regardless of the source. Credit card, personal loan etc... These guys are just trying to help you realize that this might not be in your best interest long-term given the facts you've presented. I know you won't believe this either but if you care about your hair to this degree at 22 you'll still care as much 10 or 15 years down the road. There's no magic switch that you can flip on this one. Everyone here who has taken the time to post knows exactly how you are feeling and has gone through the same emotions. This is a difficult thing to go through and I feel for you. Try to look at this as objectively as possible. It sounds like your mind is made up to go through with it so I wish you the best if and when you do.

[Notcoolanymore]

you chill out! And never post in this thread again. I mean it. Go away. You were the first one to attack me personally talking about my situation at home with my mother, of which you know absolutely nothing about. If you post here again, it will be positive, or you will be reported. Promise.

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Orders have been given, now get lost. LOL

[Thinning87]

Don't do it man. I know it sucks, and the money isn't what matters. You have the luck of being 6-2 we know you don't look nearly as good without hair but being so tall most women will be looking at you from below... I know it sounds stupid but I think it's a benefit as the eye will focus more on jaw and face unlike the rest of us

[brunobald]

Age is definitely against you on this one. I started losing my hair at 26 (now 28) it was slow at first in the crown, but over the last 6 months the front section of my hair hair gone from a super dense mop to about 1/3 of what was there before. My point is I was convinced I was only losing it in the crown, but within 6 months things completly changed and now my whole norwood 6 area looks like cr*p. When you are young it can happen and it can happen fast.

Hair loss sucks, but If you really are "male model material" you will look just as good to the other sex, without hair. I have yet to see a women I found less attractive with her hair shaved right down, think of it that way.

Without an antiandrogen you will struggle to maintain so your options in my eyes are.

1. Get a hair transplant and hope donor regen can help you fill in areas that bald in the future. (If you have the cash).
2. Get a transplant and use fin, or alternatively CB or RU.
3. There are other experimental drugs out there that grow hair, safety will be an issue. PS1 for example.
4. Scalp micro pigmentation, a good option for us young uns. check it out. Adding a little bit of fue transplants to a SMP job can really make it pop.
5. Shave it off and be done with it, liberation and acceptance are a wonderfull thing.

[Baldnessfalls]

I wish I could get some pics on here but my computer screen is broken and I'm having to use my smartphone. But after looking at the NW again, I've pretty much determined that I'm slightly less if not exactly a NW 2. But this scale doesn't seem to account for unique hairline and head shapes so its tough to tell exactly. Also, the density around the front is worse than the NW would show.

Believe it or not, I have done some hard research and I believe 1500 grafts would put me back to my youthful hairline. I also know its not as much about getting that hairline back as it is giving the appearance of a full head of hair.

I know finasteride could be crucial to stopping further hairloss, but I'm still extremely reluctant to take it. I just don't need more complications to my life and it seems like finasteride resolves a key issues in ones life, but it comes at the cost of other key parts of life (I.e. reproductive/mental health). But I'll discuss this with my doctor.

As far as the surgeon I picked out, yes he is the closest one to me, but I think he will do just fine.

[greatjob!]

I wish I could get some pics on here but my computer screen is broken and I'm having to use my smartphone. But after looking at the NW again, I've pretty much determined that I'm slightly less if not exactly a NW 2. But this scale doesn't seem to account for unique hairline and head shapes so its tough to tell exactly. Also, the density around the front is worse than the NW would show.

Believe it or not, I have done some hard research and I believe 1500 grafts would put me back to my youthful hairline. I also know its not as much about getting that hairline back as it is giving the appearance of a full head of hair.

I know finasteride could be crucial to stopping further hairloss, but I'm still extremely reluctant to take it. I just don't need more complications to my life and it seems like finasteride resolves a key issues in ones life, but it comes at the cost of other key parts of life (I.e. reproductive/mental health). But I'll discuss this with my doctor.

As far as the surgeon I picked out, yes he is the closest one to me, but I think he will do just fine.

Planting an aggressive juvenile hairline at 22 is a huge mistake. Any doctor that would agree to do so has questionable ethics in my opinion. With you losing hair at such a young age you are more than likely going to lose a lot more in the future, and I promise you one thing, if you plant an aggressive hairline now you will not have the donor to keep up with the loss. Then you'll end up with a terrible head of hair and not have the ability to shave down.

Also if you are a NW 2 or less, you have a full head of hair, and if you are so concerned about it that you can't leave the house without a hat, you have some other issues that a hair transplant isn't going to fix. You came on here asking for advice, but what you really want is for us to confirm your decision and tell you that you're right, however every person here has told you the complete opposite and for good reason. At your age you are very immature and short sided, you can't see past next week let alone 10-20 years into the future. If you head down this path without proper planning, which you clearly are not doing, you will end up in a very bad place. All of this is irrelevant since your mind is made up, I only hope your mom reads this so she doesn't give you the money. Anyways good luck to you, I hope you win the lottery and this all works out for you.

[Baldnessfalls]

Planting an aggressive juvenile hairline at 22 is a huge mistake. Any doctor that would agree to do so has questionable ethics in my opinion. With you losing hair at such a young age you are more than likely going to lose a lot more in the future, and I promise you one thing, if you plant an aggressive hairline now you will not have the donor to keep up with the loss. Then you'll end up with a terrible head of hair and not have the ability to shave down.

Also if you are a NW 2 or less, you have a full head of hair, and if you are so concerned about it that you can't leave the house without a hat, you have some other issues that a hair transplant isn't going to fix. You came on here asking for advice, but what you really want is for us to confirm your decision and tell you that you're right, however every person here has told you the complete opposite and for good reason. At your age you are very immature and short sided, you can't see past next week let alone 10-20 years into the future. If you head down this path without proper planning, which you clearly are not doing, you will end up in a very bad place. All of this is irrelevant since your mind is made up, I only hope your mom reads this so she doesn't give you the money. Anyways good luck to you, I hope you win the lottery and this all works out for you.

If one of makes another evaluation about me, calling me immature, a brat, or an asshole again, consider yourself reported. You guys probably think I live at home and am unemployed. Both or which are false.

This is afterall the "coping with hairloss in daily life" forum so forgive me if I perceived this forum as more of the "blowing off steem" or "ranting" forum. I didn't know I would have to watch what I say to make sure it was perfect for the people who read.

Everything you guys are saying has been well noted. But stop with the personal attacks and suggestions that I'm immature and am bumming off my mother. I buy her groceries, pay half her monthly bills, and sometimes loan money to both my parents for payroll for my parent's business. So I am in no way an immature brat.

[greatjob!]

If one of makes another evaluation about me, calling me immature, a brat, or an asshole again, consider yourself reported. You guys probably think I live at home and am unemployed. Both or which are false.

This is afterall the "coping with hairloss in daily life" forum so forgive me if I perceived this forum as more of the "blowing off steem" or "ranting" forum. I didn't know I would have to watch what I say to make sure it was perfect for the people who read.

Everything you guys are saying has been well noted. But stop with the personal attacks and suggestions that I'm immature and am bumming off my mother. I buy her groceries, pay half her monthly bills, and sometimes loan money to both my parents for payroll for my parent's business. So I am in no way an immature brat.

I never said you were a brat or bumming off your mother. You said your mom was supplying the rest of the money for the procedure, not anyone else.

I do however consider you immature, because that is what you come across as, report me all you want. You are a NW 2 or less by your own admission, which IMO does not warrant a transplant. Your risking a whole hell of a lot for something that shouldn't be that big of an issue, and your glossing over everyone's advice to slow down, because you could be making a huge mistake.

So I'll stop posting in your thread, since I don't want to be reported, and leave you with what you came here for....


Hi Baldnessfalls! Welcome to the forum! That sucks your mom is being so lame and you've had to back out of so many procedures! 22 is the perfect age for a hair transplant, and Dr. Fisher is the best doctor in the whole wide world!! This will be the best decision you will ever make and you will definitely never ever regret this for as long as you live. You will be male model material after this procedure, all the problems in your life will be solved, and I'm sure I will see you on billboards in the near future!! Good luck buddy!!

[Notcoolanymore]

I don't think greatjob was trying to offend you. I actually read his post twice to see if maybe I missed something that could have been offensive. You over reacted to his post. That might be the reason why people are questioning your maturity. When you come on here asking for advice or input you have to expect that sometimes you will hear things that you don't agree with. It doesn't mean anybody is necessarily 100% right or wrong they are just giving you their opinion.

All this threatening to report people is just ridiculous. Nothing worth reporting or banning anyone over. I like it around here, but if reporting someone just because you don't like what they are saying resulted in them getting warned or banned this place would be a sad place and I wouldn't want to be here. That would be a total abuse of the reporting system.

[Notcoolanymore]

I buy her groceries, pay half her monthly bills, and sometimes loan money to both my parents for payroll for my parent's business. So I am in no way an immature brat.

In your first post you said your parents were "loaded". Not sure of your definition of loaded, but why would your parents need a loan from you if they were well off. I don't consider myself loaded, but I don't need anybody to help me pay for my living expenses.

[Hector93]

Baldnessfalls, I feel I have to post because we are in a very similar situation with regards to age and hairline and I think you are going about tackling this (in my opinion) the wrong way.

Your hair loss has started early and you have to accept that it will continue even if a juvenile hairline transplant goes ahead. A lot of people have mentioned this before so I'm not going to go into detail, but there is essentially no point undergoing this procedure until your hair loss has stabilised. I know what going bald feels like and this surgery may seem like a light at the end of the tunnel but trust me, it isn't, and you could rush into something you will really regret down the line.

My advice to you (and what I am currently doing) is to get on the big 3 asap. This should at least stabilise (and potentially regrow recent) hair loss if you respond favourably. Don't worry about finasteride mate seriously, if the worst comes to the worst you can just quit the drug. Any legit hair doc will start you on these meds anyway if a transplant is something you really want to pursue so you may as well get started now.

Really hope you reconsider, nobody is out to get you on this forum and all the advice so far has been sound.

[Baldnessfalls]

In your first post you said your parents were "loaded". Not sure of your definition of loaded, but why would your parents need a loan from you if they were well off. I don't consider myself loaded, but I don't need anybody to help me pay for my living expenses.

They've got a lot of money in their savings account. To be honest, I have no idea why they ask me for loans. I just help pay for some of their stuff because I like to help them out.

I was really referring to Bigthinker, he did call me both a brat and an asshole.

I'm sorry for reacting too quickly. I understand what everyone here is saying. But someone's got to feel where I'm coming from too.

[Notcoolanymore]

They've got a lot of money in their savings account. To be honest, I have no idea why they ask me for loans. I just help pay for some of their stuff because I like to help them out.

I was really referring to Bigthinker, he did call me both a brat and an asshole.

I'm sorry for reacting too quickly. I understand what everyone here is saying. But someone's got to feel where I'm coming from too.

Trust me, I as well as others around here know where you are coming from. I started losing my hair around 22, it sucked, big time. We just don't want you to make a mistake that you will regret later in life. Good luck with whatever you decide though.

[sdsurfin]

not so bad

Hey man, if you're 6'2 and good looking, just accept it, trust me. I'm 31 and I know really good looking women who date tall bald guys all the time. stay fit and make money and your hair will mean nothing. You won the lottery already with your height and good looks, so many men are balding and wish they were in your situation. if your ears are that much of a problem, which i doubt they are, fix those instead of your hair, it will be less noticeable and less of a disaster than a hair transplant at a young age. girls your age won't care that you are thinning if you're confident, and girls in their 30's might actually find baldness attractive if you're tall and handsome. Quite a few women prefer a shaved head to long hair. I feel your pain, and as a fellow handsome guy who will lose a lot of attractiveness when i have to fully shave down, I know it sucks to lose that part of what you've been given. Life is about how we deal with loss, and you still have tons going for you.

PS a high hairline isn't even a bad thing, you're a bit early for it, but most guys around 30 have a very high hairline, and still look great and manly. if your dad still has hair and your moms side does too, then probably you can get a HT if youre still worried ten years down the road.

[Baldnessfalls]

Trust me, my high hairline makes me look goofy as hell. When I said I was NW 2 or "less" I meant NW 2 or "worse". I'm definitely in between 2 and 3. But not quite yet a 3. The way I look at it, if your a 2 or worse, you might as well be a 5. Receeding hair is receeding hair and any recession makes you look like what you are, a balding guy. I'd just assume have no hair than to have a receding hairline. What's the damn point in having it if its looks like your going bald and looks like total ess aitch eye tee!

My ideal plan is to have the 1500 grafts, then get on some kind of meds I suppose. As well as minoxidil. Does anyone here think thats a bad idea?

I've looked at myself in the mirror. Its no wonder why girls don't come near me. I look like total shit. I wish hairloss was a person so I could torture and kill him heinously. Mother****er!