Skin Perturbation PLUS Ruxolitinib?

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  • 97nasa
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 34

    Skin Perturbation PLUS Ruxolitinib?

    Any medical researchers try this combination?

    Was campfire guy on an Arthritis drug too?

    Could this be the 100% cure?
  • 97nasa
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 34

    #2
    Less than 1 year?

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    • 97nasa
      Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 34

      #3
      1

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      • DepressedByHairLoss
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 876

        #4
        I don't think anyone is interested in trying anything new unless it relates to the same old tired options of minoxidil, finasteride, or the supposed holy grail of hair transplantation. Hair restoration is a field that is mostly not interested in any kind of innovation (unless it relates to the choices mentioned above) and even then, they move as slow as tectonic plates.

        I'd love to see the innovation that you mention though. Perhaps can you link the story of the "campfire guy"?

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        • DepressedByHairLoss
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 876

          #5
          97nasa, also related to this discussion could be this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc3fPeNZooA. I hear reports of how researchers are "making insights" into growing new skin when it has already been done. I emailed the doctor who performed this and he said that skin stem cells are very different from hair stem cells. Who knows? But maybe this method of producing new skin could have some bearing on your theory.

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          • sdsurfin
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 713

            #6
            Originally posted by 97nasa
            Any medical researchers try this combination?

            Was campfire guy on an Arthritis drug too?

            Could this be the 100% cure?

            Not a safe drug. Much better options are in the works for mpb. They're gonna be able to seed your whole head with engineered follicles, it's just gonna take a while. Until then we have some more maintenance options on the way.

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            • 97nasa
              Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 34

              #7
              Agreed not a safe drug but Dr. Christiano is working on a Lotion form of Ruxolitinib and that should be much safer. I heard her once in an interview say that the lotion had great results on rats (I know that everything works on rats) but her Pill form did work on AA type hair loss very successfully. A natural, all your hair back. The drug is already FDA approved thus if a lotion form of it becomes available hopefully a medical researcher will combine it with Skin Perturbation and litterally in 1 year the cure could be here. I know it does not take a year for anything but it is already FDA approved just need to know if it works with Skin Perturbation to treat MPB. Just my theory. How else do you explain Campfire guy? He was 76 years old and my guess is he was on an Arthritis Drug (just a guess) and when his skin regrew so did his hair.

              But THE BIG ISSUE is there is no money to be made by anyone outside of the one drug company who already owns the drug for anyone else develop something new.

              All is my opinion.

              Originally posted by sdsurfin
              Not a safe drug. Much better options are in the works for mpb. They're gonna be able to seed your whole head with engineered follicles, it's just gonna take a while. Until then we have some more maintenance options on the way.

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              • 97nasa
                Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 34

                #8
                You are so right It is amazing to me how closed minded people have become.

                The Facts are very scant but there is reason to believe that this will work. There is precedence. The Campfire guy obviously had damaged skin and he was 76 years old and probably (just a guess) on an Arthritis Drug (anti-inflammatory drug) and that kicks in the new skin to grow hair-my theory. Plus two other guys from 1986? grew hair when they were on a very potent Arthritis Drug (that later was recalled) and at least one of the men who was in his 70's and had MPB grew hair in his bald area as thick as it was on the side of his head. Plus Follica has discovered that cut skin grows microscopic hair but that the body shuts down the hair growth (from 2 years ago). Thus I think that Ruxolitinib stops the body from stopping the body from growing hair (sorry for the double wording).

                I do not want anyone to try this except for Medical Researchers. But it would not take them long to try it out. Follica is working along this line except he is using P2G2 and Wnt proteins instead of Ruxolitinib - I say why reinvent the wheel.

                I really believe the Cure, 100% Natural, your Original hair just like Dr. Christiano patients grew, can be available in just 1 year if medical researchers just try this. Again, Follica is working along this line but they are using those various Proteins and not simply trying Ruxoltinib (lotion form).

                No one should try this except for Medical Researchers. But the puzzle fits and I know we have been down that road 1,000 times but just like Dr. Christiano Patients regrew all their hair it does not have to be like this for us it is not wishful think just people getting medical researchers to try it. Stop thinking of terms of NW scale that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The 100% Cure could be here.

                All is my opinion.

                Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                I don't think anyone is interested in trying anything new unless it relates to the same old tired options of minoxidil, finasteride, or the supposed holy grail of hair transplantation. Hair restoration is a field that is mostly not interested in any kind of innovation (unless it relates to the choices mentioned above) and even then, they move as slow as tectonic plates.

                I'd love to see the innovation that you mention though. Perhaps can you link the story of the "campfire guy"?

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                • 97nasa
                  Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 34

                  #9
                  http://news.engineering.utoronto.ca/researchers-engineer-safer-drugs-skin-grafts-grand-challenges-canada-grants/ Developed in partnership with Dr. Marc Jeschke, the head of Sunnybrook Hospitals Ross Tilley Burn Centre, the machine forms large, continuous layers of tissue that recreate natural skin. The printed product


                  Remember the photos are from 1980's and only 2 years ago Follica discovered that when skin is cut it begins to grow microscopic hairs (that the body quickly stops) but maybe an Ant-Inflammatory Arthritis Drug stops the body from killing the hair. And remember, we have Dr. Christiano's patience who have a Full Set of Natural Hair from Bald Heads. It worked for them why not US if you add Skin Perturbation.

                  Medical Researchers need to try it now.

                  All is my opinion.


                  Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                  I don't think anyone is interested in trying anything new unless it relates to the same old tired options of minoxidil, finasteride, or the supposed holy grail of hair transplantation. Hair restoration is a field that is mostly not interested in any kind of innovation (unless it relates to the choices mentioned above) and even then, they move as slow as tectonic plates.

                  I'd love to see the innovation that you mention though. Perhaps can you link the story of the "campfire guy"?

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                  • macbeth81
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 101

                    #10
                    That old man regrew more than any scientist has accomplished in almost 30 years since.

                    It would be safe to assume he was on pharmaceuticals. If not an arthritis medication maybe an allergy medication. If he suffered from seasonal allergies, being out camping wouldn't help that condition much. Wasn't one of the top selling drugs in that period Seldane (antihistamine)? It has been discontinued for a number of years. Probably anything he was on has been either superseded or discontinued since.

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                    • NeedHairASAP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1410

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 97nasa
                      Any medical researchers try this combination?

                      Was campfire guy on an Arthritis drug too?

                      Could this be the 100% cure?

                      Well, the damage is what caused the hair growth, and rux shuts down the immune system response, so there is the chance that whatever is happening during the damage that causes hair growth may be thrown off by the rux.

                      The real question is why do some burn victims lose their hair, while the campfire guy grew his. Maybe cause he was on a immuno seppreseant, maybe not.

                      How we don't know the answer yet is beyond me. We study the stupidest sh**, but don't figure out hair wounding.

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                      • macbeth81
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 101

                        #12
                        Reversal of male-pattern baldness, hypertrichosis, and accelerated hair and nail growth in patients receiving benoxaprofen. Published 1982.

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                        • NeedHairASAP
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1410

                          #13
                          Originally posted by macbeth81
                          That old man regrew more than any scientist has accomplished in almost 30 years since.

                          It would be safe to assume he was on pharmaceuticals. If not an arthritis medication maybe an allergy medication. If he suffered from seasonal allergies, being out camping wouldn't help that condition much. Wasn't one of the top selling drugs in that period Seldane (antihistamine)? It has been discontinued for a number of years. Probably anything he was on has been either superseded or discontinued since.
                          lol what's next? going to widely guess his daughters name? his license plate number?

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                          • Gerhard
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 101

                            #14
                            Pretty interesting stuff. I'm assuming there's zero possibility of pushing forward some testing with this. If that's the case then it's a damn shame.

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                            • 97nasa
                              Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 34

                              #15
                              Ruxolitinib is safer then Be no, just need to make it safer by putting it in lotion form something Dr. Christian is working on an FDA approved lotion. Then simply add Skin Perturbation. If someone test it this year and if it does work then assuming lotion is fda approved by year end then we can Litterally get cure at year end. Remember Rux is FDA approved already-but too dangerous need topical form to reduce risk.

                              All my opinion.


                              Originally posted by Gerhard
                              Pretty interesting stuff. I'm assuming there's zero possibility of pushing forward some testing with this. If that's the case then it's a damn shame.

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