Finasterid WHY ??

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  • vinnytr
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 227

    Finasterid WHY ??

    No i am not asking why people take finasteride .

    According to drug companies only a small percentage of people see those terrible side affects from the fin . For us on the internet its a lot more than that.
    But on the other hand we all know fin works wonders on your hair whether you see sides or not .

    So my question is ,why dont drug companies /anyone try to find out why some men get the sides and some dont. If this question can be answered may be we could find a solution to avoid the sides .

    And in the meantime men that will know for sure that they wont have the sides could happily use it and keep their hair on (literally)

    Any thoughts ??
  • chrisis
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1257

    #2
    It's all about money.

    My theory is they tested the drug successfully on people who were generally older and had advanced balding. There was little (if any) representation of younger man who are at the early stages of MPB, have minimal hair loss, or men using the drug merely as a preventative measure.

    This is something we should all be aware of.

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    • vinnytr
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 227

      #3
      Originally posted by chrisis
      It's all about money.

      My theory is they tested the drug successfully on people who were generally older and had advanced balding. There was little (if any) representation of younger man who are at the early stages of MPB, have minimal hair loss, or men using the drug merely as a preventative measure.

      This is something we should all be aware of.

      This does not explain why some younger men dont get any side affects at all ?

      Do you understand what i am onto here ? If we knew what type of men wont get the side affects ,it could be the break through .
      This would probably require these unaffected men to be tested in many ways (age , blood type , dht levels etc etc )
      Obviously this is not beneficial to any drug companies since they want to sell to all of us without discrimination lol

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      • chrisis
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1257

        #4
        Originally posted by vinnytr
        This does not explain why some younger men dont get any side affects at all ?
        People have different hormonal profiles. Hypothetically, maybe 20% of guys below 30 with minor MPB will get side effects, whereas over 30 year olds might get 10%.

        It's a big difference and something no one seems to have either thought about or cared about.

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        • greatjob!
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 910

          #5
          Originally posted by chrisis
          It's all about money.

          My theory is they tested the drug successfully on people who were generally older and had advanced balding. There was little (if any) representation of younger man who are at the early stages of MPB, have minimal hair loss, or men using the drug merely as a preventative measure.

          This is something we should all be aware of.
          The efficacy of PROPECIA was demonstrated in men (88% Caucasian) with mild to moderate androgenetic alopecia (male pattern hair loss) between 18 and 41 years of age. In order to prevent seborrheic dermatitis which might confound the assessment of hair growth in these studies, all men, whether treated with finasteride or placebo, were instructed to use a specified, medicated, tar-based shampoo (Neutrogena T/Gel®* Shampoo) during the first 2 years of the studies.
          There were three double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled studies of 12-month duration. The two primary endpoints were hair count and patient self-assessment; the two secondary endpoints were investigator assessment and ratings of photographs. In addition, information was collected regarding sexual function (based on a self-administered questionnaire) and non-scalp body hair growth. The three studies were conducted in 1879 men with mild to moderate, but not complete, hair loss. Two of the studies enrolled men with predominantly mild to moderate vertex hair loss (n=1553). The third enrolled men having mild to moderate hair loss in the anterior mid-scalp area with or without vertex balding (n=326).

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          • chrisis
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 1257

            #6
            8.1% is a lot higher than Merck are claiming. It's almost a 1 in 10 chance of your dick being broken.

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            • vinnytr
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 227

              #7
              Originally posted by chrisis
              People have different hormonal profiles. Hypothetically, maybe 20% of guys below 30 with minor MPB will get side effects, whereas over 30 year olds might get 10%.

              It's a big difference and something no one seems to have either thought about or cared about.
              There you go , i am 36 with a NW5-6 (getting a HT in october) . I have only used fin for 2 days and i was scared shitless with what i was reading on the net
              If someone made a study and found men over 30 are less prone to the sides ,i could have given it a try .

              Originally posted by greatjob!
              The efficacy of PROPECIA was demonstrated in men (88% Caucasian) with mild to moderate androgenetic alopecia (male pattern hair loss) [B]between 18 and 41 years of age
              I bet you they could tell what type of men are more likely to get the sides but they are not releasing the data because it would stop them from trying FIN altogether.

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              • sp8rky
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 159

                #8
                As I never experienced sides, I still don't really know what the sides are.

                I know I haven't lost any hair since 2002, but don't know whether or not I would of continued to lose hair after then if I wasn't on Fin.

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                • Dan26
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1270

                  #9
                  sp8rky, how old were you when you started??? And was it progressing fast?

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                  • aim4hair
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 437

                    #10
                    Tje question should be why don't companies make a topical DHT blocker ? So ppl can keep their hair without messing with their whole body hormones.

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                    • sp8rky
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 159

                      #11
                      I'm mid 30's, wasn't really fast, there was a little bit less in my temples every 3 months or so.

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                      • sp8rky
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 159

                        #12
                        I was about 23 when I started but haven't been on it constantly since then, been on it constant for 6-7 years. I don't take 1.25mg a day though, prob maximum of 1 pill a week. Takes me 2 years to use a years supply!

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                        • vinnytr
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 227

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sp8rky
                          I was about 23 when I started but haven't been on it constantly since then, been on it constant for 6-7 years. I don't take 1.25mg a day though, prob maximum of 1 pill a week. Takes me 2 years to use a years supply!
                          So is that 5mg (proscar) or 1mg (propecia) a week ??

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                          • dex89
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 809

                            #14
                            I've been on it for about 13 months, I only notice a little side effect but it didn't last and I turn 23 on june.

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