Replicel

[Davey Jones]

I guess the 600k people who were going to receive a pacemaker are out of luck.

Im going to call them and tell them they cant have one. Oh I cant because theres no phones. Darn it i bumped my head because theres no light bulb and I cant see in the dark.

what! I cant watch the basketball game either? well at least tell me the russians arent invading! because sonar isnt working and we cant detect anything. I guess someone else better create Java for the 1.2 billion desktops and 3 billion phones.

tonypizza isnt a canadian

Oh, pish-posh, they had electric light bulbs in England long before any Canadian thought one up. Neither a Canadian nor an American made the first light bulb, but Edison still gets to claim the prize for "first light bulb worth a sh*t."

I will give you the rest and begrudgingly say...thank you, Canada. Just not for the light bulb!

[CAlex]

Davey jones you had to go for the lightbulb! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvFs9N_xeK4

[interesting short documentary if you have some freetime]

People are acting as if this update from replicel is the end of the world or Christs second coming. either A it fails and all the I told you so people will reach their online climax and be all over the forums seeking praise or B the results will be positive which will mean basically noting. It will still mean another year of roller-coaster speculations until the next results are in.

Im taking a few weeks off this site but hopefully Ill return to see good news from replicel but if not we still have others plus all replicels results if others choose to build upon their work down the line. Either way its not the end of the world.

[john2399]

Davey jones you had to go for the lightbulb! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvFs9N_xeK4

[interesting short documentary if you have some freetime]

People are acting as if this update from replicel is the end of the world or Christs second coming. either A it fails and all the I told you so people will reach their online climax and be all over the forums seeking praise or B the results will be positive which will mean basically noting. It will still mean another year of roller-coaster speculations until the next results are in.

Im taking a few weeks off this site but hopefully Ill return to see good news from replicel but if not we still have others plus all replicels results if others choose to build upon their work down the line. Either way its not the end of the world.

It may not be the end of the world but it helps to have something to look forward to in the future. Being bald and having no hope in other treatments is a horrible feeling...I just hope that replicel is the answer or atleast a good treatment...lets pray brothers

[alanrudy]

I'm still hoping for the best, but just trying to look objectively and if the results were amazing I'm 99% sure it would've leaked by now. Hopefully they have at least some results comparable to Histogen or Aderans and, even if there are no results I'd expect them to try to make a positive spin on it because I'm sure they don't want to admit failure and would like to continue with research in this area. Hope they come through, or Histogen or another one do as well.

[uninformed]

I'm still hoping for the best, but just trying to look objectively and if the results were amazing I'm 99% sure it would've leaked by now. Hopefully they have at least some results comparable to Histogen or Aderans and, even if there are no results I'd expect them to try to make a positive spin on it because I'm sure they don't want to admit failure and would like to continue with research in this area. Hope they come through, or Histogen or another one do as well.

Why would the results leak if they were amazing? Couldn't the same be said for if the results were bad too?

[Pate]

Re: cost, if Aderans, Replicel and Histogen all have marketable products, there will be a three-way battle for the chrome-dome dollar, and the price will be competitive.

Should be decently cheaper than a hair transplant because of the much lower labour costs involved. The only way it will cost $20,000 is if only one of them succeeds and the others fail, and they decide to monopolise it.

[alanrudy]

Uninformed, they technically could, but I think that's less likely. I think about the participants in the study and the employees, they have families, friends, coworkers, etc. If the results were amazing, I'm not sure how at least one of those people couldn't help but let it leak unless there's some crazy incentive for them not to. That's just my opinion/logic of it, but I'll still hope for good results.

[paulsreef]

Uninformed, they technically could, but I think that's less likely. I think about the participants in the study and the employees, they have families, friends, coworkers, etc. If the results were amazing, I'm not sure how at least one of those people couldn't help but let it leak unless there's some crazy incentive for them not to. That's just my opinion/logic of it, but I'll still hope for good results.

I agree; if I started to grow my hair back and in a year it was all back, people at work would probably take more notice than when I lost my hair. I would probably be driving all over town in a convertible screaming until they locked me up. You would think something like that would leak out.

[Pate]

Uninformed, they technically could, but I think that's less likely. I think about the participants in the study and the employees, they have families, friends, coworkers, etc. If the results were amazing, I'm not sure how at least one of those people couldn't help but let it leak unless there's some crazy incentive for them not to. That's just my opinion/logic of it, but I'll still hope for good results.

Well first up, the trial took place in Georgia, in the former USSR. Most of the participants probably don't even speak English. They certainly don't hang around hair loss forums. Or catch up with Tobin in a bar for a beer and a chat.

Second, they only had single injections. Any hair growth would only have been in a radius of a couple of millimetres. Unless they were injected on slick bald scalp these guys probably wouldn't even know themselves if they've grown any hair. It would take a microscope analysis.

Third, there's the fact they would have signed confidentiality agreements under threat of legal action. That's not just for results but everything about the procedure.

Fourth, there's the fact none of the other trial results have leaked. One guy turned up on another forum claiming to have been in an Aderans trial, and posted pics of hair growth, but there was no leak of results ("25% increase in hair count" or whatever). And that's it - from 300 trial participants! From Histogen participants we have heard absolutely squat.

Fifth, as uninformed said, there's just as much chance of a leak if it's bad news as if it's good.

So I don't really see that the fact there hasn't been a leak can be interpreted as good OR bad. We will see in a few days anyway.