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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilli57211 View Post
    Are you sure that's a current article? I'm pretty sure I read that exact article last summer, and it was dated 2006. Maybe someone just reposted it with a current date. As far as hair loss research goes, it seems pretty out-of-date. Everyone in the field knows that they are actually WELL INTO human clinical trials at this point, not looking at potential trials two years from now. I mean, it actually mentions Intercytex as being an active player in this game, when we all know they're done, right?
    I doubt that very much, Intercytex were back up early last year, these guys are not even 5 years away they are saying.... i cant believe this, its like a dagger in ur soul i wish they would for Gods sake shut up with all this "here in 5 years" and then come out 3 years later and laugh about asking if its still 2 - 5 years away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
    SORRY guys in advance, but I found this article "update" about HM quite interesting, I know it's nothing to do with Histogen so I am very sorry in advance.

    Looks like bad news - they're not agreeing to the "in the next 5 years" lol...

    They claim that they can achieve 1 or 2 hairs from one, but want to get up to the level of 1000 hairs from one! :d Christ! Forget that lets just go with the 1 or 2 hairs from one that'll do me!!

    Bullshit really - he plays down whether it will be released in 5 years or not... there you have it... wer still decades off.

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci...430-1e235.html

    Cheers!
    Ah he mentions the german guys, they have said that trials are on their way. And of course they wanna create 1000 and more from one because this means more money and less working (Money vultures) For 10000 grafts you have to ectract 5000 but with creating 1000 from one its just like extracting 10. The cloning or multiplication process itself is an automatic one.

    I am looking into my glass bowl and i see : They will use different things like ECM and growth factors to achieve this.

    But did i read it right they implanted those artificial follicles into the sole of mice? This is ****ing crude, its like transplanting hairs on our tings or so. Ok its good to hear that this works but man i dont know, instead they should use guinea pigs from those forums here :-) and maybe fill in their strip scars at first to test it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDawkins View Post
    Ah he mentions the german guys, they have said that trials are on their way. And of course they wanna create 1000 and more from one because this means more money and less working (Money vultures) For 10000 grafts you have to ectract 5000 but with creating 1000 from one its just like extracting 10. The cloning or multiplication process itself is an automatic one.

    I am looking into my glass bowl and i see : They will use different things like ECM and growth factors to achieve this.

    But did i read it right they implanted those artificial follicles into the sole of mice? This is ****ing crude, its like transplanting hairs on our tings or so. Ok its good to hear that this works but man i dont know, instead they should use guinea pigs from those forums here :-) and maybe fill in their strip scars at first to test it
    It does work, look at Aderans' results, they have seen an increase of 60 -70% hairs by extracting and injecting stem cells into bald scalps, stem cells that for one work and are resistant to androgens, its just the 5 year bullshit that pisses me off, i mean whats the big hold up? TEN YEARS!!!! Aderans are already in phase II human trials I dont see why these guys are still at "mouse stage" in all fairness, they should have done this a decade ago!

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    I dont wanna flame and crush you, but its really all about money, literally to get more money with less working done i am dead serious. That those things works should be clear but hey if they think they can lower the working time or make it easier to get more money, they will abso ****ing lutely do it and thats were you have your average "5 years bla bla stuff"

    Hey i absolutely agree with you on the "They should have done this a decade ago" but the same thing goes for all surgeons, they should have pursued the Gho way earlier.

    Nice we finally agree on something :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDawkins View Post
    I dont wanna flame and crush you, but its really all about money, literally to get more money with less working done i am dead serious. That those things works should be clear but hey if they think they can lower the working time or make it easier to get more money, they will abso ****ing lutely do it and thats were you have your average "5 years bla bla stuff"

    Hey i absolutely agree with you on the "They should have done this a decade ago" but the same thing goes for all surgeons, they should have pursued the Gho way earlier.

    Nice we finally agree on something :-)
    you seen this?

    http://www.bioregenerativesciences.c...for-women.html

    Hair STEMulating Complex - utter Histogen knock off - i'd love to hear Dr Zierings thoughts on this product lol.

    A number of questions instantly arise... was this put through clinical trial? What are the active ingredients (I will literally shoot myself if it contains Saw Palmetto) How effective is it? Where is the proof??

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    Yop i saw this especialle the STEM instead of STIMulating thing

    All i know is, it wont be 10 years before we got a solution but science and researchers should not be so OVERLY Careful. THey should grab some forum users here and go for it :-)

    I would volunteer and take one for the team ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDawkins View Post
    Yop i saw this especialle the STEM instead of STIMulating thing

    All i know is, it wont be 10 years before we got a solution but science and researchers should not be so OVERLY Careful. THey should grab some forum users here and go for it :-)

    I would volunteer and take one for the team ^^
    What do u think? Are you gonna order some?

    It looks so convincing, I cant believe (if they are scammers) how they pull off being so legit... they play with your wishes... I wish this was it... but I know deep down it cant be.

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    Naaa i wont order this because imho i wait for one of the big players or go to Gho thats it. But if this stuff is valid well i may reevaluate my thinking.

    But right now i would more consider something like Gho because those are consitent and solid results but what do i know

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    http://www.stophairlossnow.co.uk/New...es-101380.html

    Well here they state they went though the same type of clinical trials as Histogen, ive also just sent them an email asking several questions about this trial, first of all, can I see the results from it? lol... I hope this is the one... I hope and pray this is at least SOMETHING.

    Whether this is a scam or not, I believe this will be the model of what will form as THE HOLY GRAIL - a topical application that works at just triggering those dormant stem cells into growth... I DO see hope on the HM side, but this type of technology fits so well with the research that found the remaining inactive stem cells in bald scalps.

    Histogen shall wear the crown (no pun intended) if they can prove their product safe and effective at 50%+ yield.

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    Well to be honest, i think the standard of regrowth will be 70 to 80% tops. Yes stem cells will be THE solution in terms of transplantation or HM.

    Looks very bad on the FUT side though, you agree. I mean i was really shocked to hear that in germany some scientist created artificial follicles, cause i never would have imgained that this is actually be doing right now

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