Using just a Dermaroller. What can i expect?

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  • Westonci
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 254

    Using just a Dermaroller. What can i expect?

    If my hair loss is not significant, but just thinning at this point, will using a dermaroller help prevent further hairloss?
  • BudskiiHD
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 121

    #2
    Originally posted by Westonci
    If my hair loss is not significant, but just thinning at this point, will using a dermaroller help prevent further hairloss?
    Nope. Get on finasteride.

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    • PatientlyWaiting
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1639

      #3
      You mean while also using minoxidil?

      If not, keep in mind that MPB is a gene. You can't just roll little needles on your head and it will stop the hairloss. I'm pretty sure the whole point of a dermaroller is for more minoxidil absorption.

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      • Notcoolanymore
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 2260

        #4
        I use the dermaroller and have had some success. I am also treating my hairloss with other meds also so who knows if the dermaroller is actually doing anything. I do remember seeing a thread around here were they posted some promising information on the use of the dermaroller so I would not totally rule it out as being an affective treatment.

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        • john2399
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 527

          #5
          Do any of you guys use dermaroller more than 1nce a week?

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          • Notcoolanymore
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 2260

            #6
            I use it about 3 or 4 days a week. I usually wash my hair, then while in the shower i use the dermaroller all over the top of my head. After, I shampoo with regenepure dr. After showering I apply minox.

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            • john2399
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 527

              #7
              Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
              I use it about 3 or 4 days a week. I usually wash my hair, then while in the shower i use the dermaroller all over the top of my head. After, I shampoo with regenepure dr. After showering I apply minox.
              Ive heard that its dangerous to use minox right after dermaroller, to wait atleast 24 hours. Have you experienced any negative effects using minox right after?

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1064

                #8
                Is the dermaroller proven to do anything, or are you guys running some spikes over your head, drawing blood, just in hope?

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                • PrettyFly83
                  Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 41

                  #9
                  Hey Guys

                  Check out the Derma Rolling Thread, lots of details here along with 100 person peer reviewed 3 month pilot study

                  As a result of the recent dermarolling study (found here (http://www.ijtrichology.com/article.asp?issn=0974-7753;year=2013;volume=5;issue=1;spage=6;epage=11;aulast=Dhurat) and discussed here (http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=13348)), a crossforum trial has been proposed to attempt to emulate and enhance the results


                  Cheers

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                  • the_dude78
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 191

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                    ...I'm pretty sure the whole point of a dermaroller is for more minoxidil absorption.

                    No. It has nothing to do with absorption. It's all about wound healing. Wound healing triggers an embryonic state in the skin which makes it receptive to receiving instructions from wnt proteins. It is important not to use the roller every day, as this requires the healing cycle to be completed before it is triggered again.

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                    • walrus
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 298

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                      You mean while also using minoxidil?

                      If not, keep in mind that MPB is a gene. You can't just roll little needles on your head and it will stop the hairloss. I'm pretty sure the whole point of a dermaroller is for more minoxidil absorption.
                      MPB is a phenotype, not a gene. You also wrongly assume that drugs are the only thing that can affect the expression of genes.

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                      • Marshmalo
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 72

                        #12
                        Originally posted by the_dude78
                        No. It has nothing to do with absorption. It's all about wound healing. Wound healing triggers an embryonic state in the skin which makes it receptive to receiving instructions from wnt proteins. It is important not to use the roller every day, as this requires the healing cycle to be completed before it is triggered again.
                        No, it is everything to do with absorption, micro-needling is said to massively increase absorption of any topical you put on your skin, thats why women are using it along with vitamin creams for good skin.

                        Your right that it does cause the skin to heal with is supposed to increase collagen levels but for hairloss the main principle is to increase expsoure to minoxil.

                        I'm no docter and neither are you but I really think once a day might be too much.

                        I would recomend using it just after the shower, the skin is softer then and it's less painful.

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                        • Chromeo
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 86

                          #13
                          It is neither "nothing to do with absorption" nor "everything to do with absorption", I believe it is somewhere in between.

                          Yes, it is said that microneedling aids with absorption of topicals such as Minoxidil, but in this more recent study the focus is on the wounding and regeneration process. Minoxidil is not used until 24 hours after the wounding session, so increasing absorption is not the purpose of this experiment in this case.

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                          • PatientlyWaiting
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1639

                            #14
                            Well then I stand corrected. Don't know much about this Dermaroller thing but I highly doubt that rolling a $20 dollar object on your head will be a good treatment for MPB.

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1589

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                              Well then I stand corrected. Don't know much about this Dermaroller thing but I highly doubt that rolling a $20 dollar object on your head will be a good treatment for MPB.
                              tell that to Follica

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