• 06-19-2015 10:24 AM
    Vunoo
    Is there a way that I can hide/treat my hair loss? 19 yo.. (pics)
    Hey guys, I hope you're all doing great, I'm completly depressed right now because 3 days ago, a girl that I was going out with, noticed that I was balding..and basically she never talked to me back. The last thing she said was "I thought you were different", as some kind of excuse, because I'm pretty sure I did nothing wrong :(

    I've been reading every single thread about topicals, people with same problems, etc, and I yet don't know what to do with my hair/my life, since not even my parents are willing to give me a hand, cause they don't see this as some kind of "desease".. They weren't even letting me take finasteride 2 years ago because of the sides it COULD (but did not) do to me. Sadly, I couldn't see any results within these 2 years..

    Well, here are some pictures of how I currently look, please feel free to say what could I do to "hide" my hair loss:

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    http://imgur.com/lmHuUf4 - with fringe
    http://imgur.com/goLXRQT - no fringe

    http://imgur.com/qFrTAxa - reason for why I'm getting "verbally abused"
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    In case you ask something related to this... :

    Medicaments?

    - Finasteride 1mg + minox for 2 years (17-19), no sides, but no "results" either.

    Dermatologist or any test taken?

    - I went to a dermatologist once when I was 17, she looked at my head and said I had to take finasteride and minoxidil, that was it. No tests were made.

    Family that is bald?

    - My dad is the only one who started loosing his hair during his late 30's, the rest of my family (mother included have full heads of hair)

    When did your hair loss start?

    - When I hit 15, which was when my parents divorced, but If that was the problem, I would've gotten my hair back already, I think..

    How is your hair density?

    - If i open my hair on any part of my head it will look somewhat like that, I don't have much hair on my sides either (compared to my friends) but since my hair is curly, I'm capable of hiding some places.

    Would you consider shaving your head?

    - Sadly, no. As you can see, I don't look exactly like a man for 19 years old. I'm too white, and I don't have any facial hair..

    So far a guy said that I should try a "derma-roller" and another guy said to try RU, but I read the thread about its procedure and I have no clue on how to get those items + costs quite high for a student.. I think the only possible way would be buying it already made, but I'm afraid it would cost alot more than minox + finasteride. :(



    Thanks for the time reading this, and I'm sorry if I look too desperate, but damn, life is getting really hard to live right now, and this is heavily influencing my grades :(
  • 06-19-2015 11:33 AM
    Arieux
    Quote:

    So far a guy said that I should try a "derma-roller" and another guy said to try RU, but I read the thread about its procedure and I have no clue on how to get those items + costs quite high for a student.. I think the only possible way would be buying it already made, but I'm afraid it would cost alot more than minox + finasteride. :(
    There are a few places which RU is available via internet. In Poland everybody gets it from our local site: http://edt.com.pl/reschem/Produkty/ru58841/
    I was considering trying it, but I really can't stop to hesitate. Taking for X years [where X is a number of years for a real cure like Replicel...] a substance which didn't complete human trials and whose long-term sides aren't known? Generally, if systematic absorbtion occurs, it may give you sides similiar to other antiandrogens like Finasteride. You didn't have any sides of it, so maybe you will also avoid it with RU? There is a polish hair loss forum whose users take RU regularly and it is just incomprehensible for me that they don't consider possible non-known sides. Or maybe it is my wrong attitude to overthink it...

    I would advise you also to take some suplements on daily basis (Biotin), because it may improve your general hair condition.

    When it comes to hiding your problem: maybe you may consider some Toppik (or other similiar product) only on the top? Without photo nr 3 I would never say that you have any hair problems! Btw. you look very good with this hairstyle.

    Quote:

    Hey guys, I hope you're all doing great, I'm completly depressed right now because 3 days ago, a girl that I was going out with, noticed that I was balding..and basically she never talked to me back. The last thing she said was "I thought you were different", as some kind of excuse, because I'm pretty sure I did nothing wrong :( ]
    Anyway you are in better position than me, because I am so depressed that I even can't think about any relationship now...
  • 06-19-2015 01:47 PM
    Vic
    If you were under a lot of stress when your parents divorced, you have stress related hair loss. That's why Fin hasn't helped at all. Stress related hair loss ends only when your stress levels subside. You sound like you are stressed out in every post.
    Stress related hair loss is far easier to treat then MPB. You just need to learn to control your stress. Exercise is probably the best way to control stress. Google what else you can do to control your stress levels. The girl probably left because of your self esteem issues, not your thinning crown. Girls leave when you are not confident. From what my doctor told me about growth factors, the best responders to such treatments are those who suffer from stress related hair loss so stop mopping and start rolling. It costs like $10.
  • 06-19-2015 02:21 PM
    Vunoo
    Thanks for your answers both Arieux and Vic (once again ! ), I wish the problem was due to a bad nutrition (I'll talk with my parents about the possibility of taking something like Biotin), or stress..but the thing is... there is no way to check if I'm really suffering from mpb or hair loss due to stress right?..is there some kind of exam that I can take to know what my real issue is ...?

    @Arieux, I feel how bad it is mate...I wish we could help eachother out, it's during these moments that we need a friendly hand, at the end of the day.

    All those things you guys say, RU, Nutri-meds, etc etc..I wish I could try it all out and see if any of it would work...but I don't have enough money to afford so much while still taking finasteride and minoxidil :(

    @Vic, I think you can understand my situation concerning stress (like everyone else who's suffering from mpb). I know I lost most of my hair when my dad used to beat me and my mom, then the divorce.. But it's been 4 years, and I'm still in a quite bad situation for a 19 years old teen. It's really hard to be ok when you have people laughing about your lack of hair behind you, when you see that it is slowly consuming you.. every time I go cut my hair, it's like staying 10-15mins in hell, just the look of the person who's doing the job saying deep inside "poor guy, loosing all his hair so young.." . It's pretty devastating and I think most of you can relate to.

    The thing, I cannot talk about these problems with ANYONE..not even my closest friends. They can't understand my frustation with hair loss because, well, they're not in the same position. Nor can they understand how fragile my past years were cause, once again, they never had anything like that...

    It's horrible feeling all this pain, all this fear taking you down. And you don't have anyone to talk with that can understand such a thing..
  • 06-20-2015 12:42 PM
    Arieux
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    there is no way to check if I'm really suffering from mpb or hair loss due to stress right?..is there some kind of exam that I can take to know what my real issue is ...?

    Yes, there are some methods like trichograms, microcamera etc. which may help you to recognize better your problem. In Poland there are some ,,trichologists'', but majority of them are real ignorants with the knowledge of MPB smaller than average member of this forum... Generally if you are losing hair on 'androgenical' places (crown + hairline) it is MPB. If you are losing them on the whole this area at the same time: it is diffused MPB. If you are losing them on the whole head, but without special concentration on androgenical places, it is most probably unpatterned diffuse hair loss. If you have problem only on the top and a little worse overall condition, it is most probably classical MBP with telogen effuvium - temporal hair loss which may be caused mainly by stress and it will give away after removal of stress factor. It is probably my problem, but how can remove stress factor if this factor is my hairloss? I can't see any exit from this vicious circle...
  • 06-30-2015 04:30 PM
    atthekeysbored
    You've realized this early and you are very facially attractive in the pretty boy style which will be reduced when you bald. Find a moderately attractive woman and wife her up. Hide your baldness with caps, slouch beanies, toppik till you have a woman locked down. You have 5 maybe 6 years before this becomes a serious problem for you. Don't waste your time, get the toppik and do EVERYTHING you can to find a wife. **** grades, they are a waste of your precious non-bald time.
  • 07-01-2015 05:07 AM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by atthekeysbored View Post
    You've realized this early and you are very facially attractive in the pretty boy style which will be reduced when you bald. Find a moderately attractive woman and wife her up. Hide your baldness with caps, slouch beanies, toppik till you have a woman locked down. You have 5 maybe 6 years before this becomes a serious problem for you. Don't waste your time, get the toppik and do EVERYTHING you can to find a wife. **** grades, they are a waste of your precious non-bald time.

    Wha..I gotta finish my grades man :( otherwise my parents will kick me out, and how would I pay my bills later on if I end up making a family?

    But yeah, it really sucks..it's like god telling us "Hey mate ! Just letting you know, live your life while you can, 'cause soon it will be GONE!". It completly breaks my heart...

    Thank you very much for your point of view nonetheless, you are quite sincere and you probably already know about the inevitable, it sucks but..yeah, that's the truth. =/
  • 07-02-2015 01:31 PM
    sootellme
    buzz your hair really short.. grow some facial scruff.. The only time balding looks really bad is when you have long hair.....

    and I can guarantee you that girl did not leave you because she noticed you losing hair.. its just your paranoia.. when you think there is something wrong with you then you will automatically blame that thing in this case your perceived hair loss
  • 07-03-2015 01:32 AM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sootellme View Post
    buzz your hair really short.. grow some facial scruff.. The only time balding looks really bad is when you have long hair.....

    and I can guarantee you that girl did not leave you because she noticed you losing hair.. its just your paranoia.. when you think there is something wrong with you then you will automatically blame that thing in this case your perceived hair loss

    Thanks for your advice mate, but as I said, I can't grow any facial hair, sadly =/
  • 07-05-2015 03:23 AM
    0kly
    I would still try and buzz it real short.. and see how it looks.. it will grow back.. you have strong eye brows and good eyes so you should still be able to pull it off..
  • 07-05-2015 03:52 AM
    seri
    this will work for you.. if you want to conceal that spot. http://www.caboki.com/videos.html

    you have more than enough hair left there for it to cover it to the point that the bald area will be completely filled in and concealed.
  • 07-05-2015 05:44 AM
    JWS
    Hey dude.
    Your hair doesn't look bad at all!!
    I don't even think your balding.
    And that part at the back really does not look bad at all!!! If I saw u I wouldn't even think u were balding. I'd just think that's the way your crown is.
    If you feel worried about it.... You could just tie your hair back over the crown so then it wouldn't be visible anyway.
    Or cut it short and it won't make it obvious.
  • 07-06-2015 01:05 AM
    Vunoo
    Hello guys ! Thank you so much for all the answers! I think I'll try buzzing it off after my school ends so just in case it doesn't look good, I'll just stay inside my house until it grows back <.< , my hairdresser also said I shouldn't buzz it for some reason..

    Now for the caboki, I'll ask my parents if I can try it, the only problem I see with that, is my budget. Because finasteride + minoxidil is already taking most of the money my parents give me monthly :(

    Once again, ,thans alot for trying to help me out guys :) you rock !
  • 07-08-2015 09:58 AM
    BeaveCake
    I'm a 20 year old who shaved my head skin bald from a condition, I don't exactly look manly and don't have facial hair either plus a dermatologist even told me my skin type was basically two steps above ginger, so when I first shaved I was very concerned too, however turns out my facial features and head shape work well with it, I get compliments regularly and people think I'm 21-22, (which is fine given I'm 20) and I've had no issues with girls because of it, hell a girl from a different school than the one I graduated from asked me to her prom last year barely knowing me and she was hot, so basically while whatever you do is your choice, and I can understand trying some treatment, realize that no hair isn't a social death sentence like some people on here preach, in fact while this is a good place to get info on treatment, I would never recommend it for examples of how life is with no hair. So I hope you find something that works, but if not I'd suggest shaving just once to see how it looks. Either way don't let it dominate your mind and you'll find it won't your life either, I wish you well.
  • 07-10-2015 08:35 AM
    Vunoo
    I'm going to buzz my hair next wednesday, after all my university's exams are done. I'm so scared, hopefully my friends won't make fun of me for having a bald spot.... :'(
  • 07-11-2015 02:01 AM
    seri
    caboki only costs 20 bucks
  • 07-11-2015 03:02 AM
    Mpbman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    I'm going to buzz my hair next wednesday, after all my university's exams are done. I'm so scared, hopefully my friends won't make fun of me for having a bald spot.... :'(

    Dude, you dont have to buzz your hair super short. Cut it to about 1.5 - 2 inches to see how it feels first. And caboki works better if the hair is not extra short.

    And dont worry about women.. Date as many as you can and worry about marrying after 30.
  • 07-11-2015 10:50 AM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mpbman View Post
    Dude, you dont have to buzz your hair super short. Cut it to about 1.5 - 2 inches to see how it feels first. And caboki works better if the hair is not extra short.

    And dont worry about women.. Date as many as you can and worry about marrying after 30.

    How long does a bottle of caboki last ? plus, water or doing any kind of sports will affect it, am I right?

    And I don't pretend to marry, I'd rather have an healthy relationship without marriage, cause just by looking at what happened with my parents..dang, I don't want to pass through that.
  • 07-11-2015 11:29 AM
    Mpbman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    How long does a bottle of caboki last ? plus, water or doing any kind of sports will affect it, am I right?

    And I don't pretend to marry, I'd rather have an healthy relationship without marriage, cause just by looking at what happened with my parents..dang, I don't want to pass through that.

    It depends..i use it from time to time and i have used only 10% or so in the last 3 months. You should not overdo it with caboki and it will last you for months. Yeah water washes it down but the weird thing is that you must really wash your hair a few minutes to get it off completely.

    So i guess a light rain wont wash it down rigt away. I ve also used topik but caboki sticks to the hair better.
  • 07-11-2015 11:42 AM
    voxman
    Before you buzz it - how about getting a nice cut and style? Right now it kind of all over the place - you might find a nice look that suits you well. One that uses your best features to full advantage.
  • 07-11-2015 01:43 PM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by voxman View Post
    Before you buzz it - how about getting a nice cut and style? Right now it kind of all over the place - you might find a nice look that suits you well. One that uses your best features to full advantage.

    I have no clue on which type of style/cut would fit me the best right now.. Mpbman said I shouldn't buzz it if I want to use caboki/toppik, so I'll take that in consideration; my dad told me that I should shave it, although I'm pretty sure he doesn't know how bad my hair is right now..

    So between using topics, shaving it/cutting it short or use a damn hair system I'll have to find a way to save myself from this shame, because society can be quite cruel sometimes. And the lackage of hair on a teen is enough for a random person to shut you down..

    Like I said, I'll only cut/shave my hair next wednesday, so I'll gladly receive all your suggestions until there :) And once again, thank you so much for helping me out with this, I love this community ! ^.^
  • 07-11-2015 03:27 PM
    voxman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    I have no clue on which type of style/cut would fit me the best right now..

    Vunoo, a quick trip to a local barber/stylist for a look at what can be done is a start! Some knowledgeable young stylists can do wonders and just may give you a new and different outlook.
  • 07-12-2015 02:03 AM
    bergiss
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    I'll have to find a way to save myself from this shame, because society can be quite cruel sometimes. And the lackage of hair on a teen is enough for a random person to shut you down..

    there's nothing shameful about having a shaven head.. tons of guys have shaven heads these guys... even very young guys in their early 20's..... some do look better than others with it though..


    hell the entire leading cast of furious 7 have shaven heads for christ's sake...
  • 07-12-2015 07:07 AM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bergiss View Post
    there's nothing shameful about having a shaven head.. tons of guys have shaven heads these guys... even very young guys in their early 20's..... some do look better than others with it though..


    hell the entire leading cast of furious 7 have shaven heads for christ's sake...

    I'm not talking about having a shaven head, I'm talking about lacking hair.. that's my point, I know there's nothing wrong with having a shaven head.

    @voxman, will do that :)
  • 07-22-2015 12:08 AM
    Vunoo
    UPDATE !

    Hey guys ! This is how I currently look right now, the woman said I shouldn't buzz my hair so I ended up cutting it like that :p what do u guys think?

    http://imgur.com/oXm4MAE

    Should I cut it shorter or do you think it looks decent like this ? Also, could any of you give me a hand with the color for caboki ? Something around medium-brown ?

    And once again, thank you for all the positive posts and support :) I kinda feel better right now, although I'm still pretty scared of my crown while I'm not using caboki :3
  • 07-23-2015 05:29 AM
    Mpbman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vunoo View Post
    UPDATE !

    Hey guys ! This is how I currently look right now, the woman said I shouldn't buzz my hair so I ended up cutting it like that :p what do u guys think?

    http://imgur.com/oXm4MAE

    Should I cut it shorter or do you think it looks decent like this ? Also, could any of you give me a hand with the color for caboki ? Something around medium-brown ?

    And once again, thank you for all the positive posts and support :) I kinda feel better right now, although I'm still pretty scared of my crown while I'm not using caboki :3

    Looking really good mate!

    As for caboki - judging from the photos you're more "dark brown" than "medium brown" in my opinion. You could also continue using rogaine/minoxidil, since it's most effective on crown part of the hair.

    And maybe 0.25mg to 0.5mg propecia per day for maintaining what you have could be beneficial.
  • 07-23-2015 08:17 AM
    Vunoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mpbman View Post
    Looking really good mate!

    As for caboki - judging from the photos you're more "dark brown" than "medium brown" in my opinion. You could also continue using rogaine/minoxidil, since it's most effective on crown part of the hair.

    And maybe 0.25mg to 0.5mg propecia per day for maintaining what you have could be beneficial.

    Hey mpbman! I've been taking propecia/finasteride 1mg for 2 years already :3 since I was 17, I'm not sure if it is doing anything tho :p

    I'm gonna buy caboki today, and then we'll see how this works.. I also planned a trip to a well-known dermatologist next month, hopefully he can explain me better what is really going on with me :)

    Thanks for the help mate, love u bro ! #noHomo

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