• 02-09-2012 06:07 PM
    clandestine
    Coping with Hair Loss in Every Day Life
    Sometimes it is hard not to become markedly depressed about hair loss.

    I would like to put forth the idea of creating a new subforum. Something along the lines of 'Coping and Acceptance' or 'Coping with Hair Loss in Every Day Life'.

    The new subforum would be a place of solace; of comfort and consolation. People could vent, others could choose to listen and respond, give input.

    There is a whole lot of compassion on this forum, in my eyes such a subforum would be a welcome addition.

    (i.e. Bald Truth Talk - Hair Loss, Hair Transplant and Hair Restoration Community > Men's Hair Loss > Coping and Acceptance)

    Thoughts? Suggestions?
  • 02-09-2012 06:24 PM
    NotBelievingIt
    I think its a good idea.

    I'm "new" to my thinning. Its so funny. It took one picture this past summer that was taken looking at me from the left side that exposed, to me, the assymetrical loss going on. I'm sure there was an acceleration that occured to this past Fall but I didn't exactly track it with photos.

    Since then I've gone back through photos and realize it started sometime in 2009. I was in Jamaica in Sept 2008 and there was maybe a teensy bit of thinning on the top back of my head, but my hair was also wet, in the pool. Every other photo from that trip my hair is thick. Unfortunately my "right side" is my "good side" so majority of photos of me are taken at that angle, and not from a top down...so all of the photos my hair looks fine from your typical family gathering photo. Plus as I've said in other threads, I've always kept it short.

    But a couple specific photos from June 2009, looking at them now knowing what to look for, you can see it happening.

    Also, I'm disappointed my barber never said anything specifically about it (or any family/friends for that matter...) I didn't really have a relationship with the barber per se. It was a group of 4 people in a tiny little barbershop and I never cared who did my hair, I didn't get it styled or anything. But again, knowing now that my hair was thinning, I can recall many times being asked "little longer on the top to comb" and always going sure...it never dawning on me why the question was being asked, just figuring that it was a courtesy type question or something.

    So I switched to a stylist. I know its going to be more expensive, but I also made it clear why I am going to them - I want my hair to look as good as it can as it progresses, however it will. At some point I will likely make the decision to get it cut ultra short and the stylist will no longer be terribly necessary. But right now unless you're on top of me, you can't really tell unless you're looking at me directly from the left and I'm not looking at you and then you still gotta be close enough to make it out.


    I have my bad days and good days. I had a lot of bad days for a couple months after 'realization' and I have less of them now, but it gets to me every so often. Frankly I don't care that I'm going to lose X% of my hair - what I care about is looking dumb while its happening. The asymetrical crap going on is mainly the reason.
  • 02-09-2012 06:34 PM
    chrisis
    I like the idea. Hair loss is affecting things I do on a daily basis now. I can't get my hair wet - so no swimming, and I avoid going out in rain without a hat/umbrella/hood. If my hair loses its style then I feel extremely vulnerable and paranoid that my hair loss is evident. I like to run, but now it must be with a hat because if I get my hair sweaty it looks bad.

    :(

    Let's have somewhere to discuss these daily nightmares, with perhaps tips on how to cope with such situations and support where needed.
  • 02-10-2012 05:22 AM
    rupe
    yeah mate, i think its a fantastic idea. it has also changed my life, i refused an outing to the beach with some friends as i dont want my hair wet when just 8 weeks ago i was going to the beach 5 times a week on my holidays. its srsly f*****. and when you have a bad hair day, like i did today and eysteray, it is terrible. feel worthless and feel like im expiring.
  • 02-10-2012 06:19 AM
    brooklynx24
    Coping with Hair Loss
    Hi I agree.. I am a female and boy has HL really affected my life. I started with thinning over the years but now I have severe HL. I am now a hair wearer. It has been very hard especially being a female because It is not as accepted. Im not saying that as a male it is easier to deal with, but men can shave their head and get away with it. HL has made me a stronger person, but everyday I have to make sure I fight and not let it take over. It is not easy, but I try to remember that I am a healthy, beautiful person who has many things to be thankful for :)
  • 02-11-2012 07:22 PM
    clandestine
    Glad you all feel similarly. This condition is indeed life-changing. Hair, in most cases, is a big part of who we are as a person. It is intrinsically part of our identity for the better part of our youth. Losing our hair can be seriously detrimental to our lives in so many ways.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brooklynx24 View Post
    Hi I agree.. I am a female and boy has HL really affected my life. I started with thinning over the years but now I have severe HL. I am now a hair wearer. It has been very hard especially being a female because It is not as accepted. Im not saying that as a male it is easier to deal with, but men can shave their head and get away with it. HL has made me a stronger person, but everyday I have to make sure I fight and not let it take over. It is not easy, but I try to remember that I am a healthy, beautiful person who has many things to be thankful for :)

    Hair loss is never easy, no matter your gender. This is a tough battle, but all we can do is stay optimistic. Never should we let this affliction dictate how we live our lives. You are indeed beautiful, I'm glad you realize this. We all have many things to be thankful for.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    I like the idea. Hair loss is affecting things I do on a daily basis now. I can't get my hair wet - so no swimming, and I avoid going out in rain without a hat/umbrella/hood. If my hair loses its style then I feel extremely vulnerable and paranoid that my hair loss is evident. I like to run, but now it must be with a hat because if I get my hair sweaty it looks bad.
    :(

    Let's have somewhere to discuss these daily nightmares, with perhaps tips on how to cope with such situations and support where needed.

    Glad you support the idea. And I feel you man. Hair loss has literally become a daily struggle for me. Every time I see myself in a mirror or a window reflection I'm reminded of this affliction. My confidence, gone. Vulnerable and paranoid are very accurate words to describe what I've been feeling.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NotBelievingIt View Post
    I think its a good idea.

    I'm "new" to my thinning. Its so funny. It took one picture this past summer that was taken looking at me from the left side that exposed, to me, the assymetrical loss going on. I'm sure there was an acceleration that occured to this past Fall but I didn't exactly track it with photos.

    I have my bad days and good days. I had a lot of bad days for a couple months after 'realization' and I have less of them now, but it gets to me every so often. Frankly I don't care that I'm going to lose X% of my hair - what I care about is looking dumb while its happening. The asymetrical crap going on is mainly the reason.

    The rate at which hair loss can progress surprises me sometimes as well. Looking back at old facebook photos is terrible man, just terrible. Not the least bit helpful (obviously), but I try to stay off facebook most of the time anyway. Interesting that you're not necessarily worried about losing hair in general, but the issue of asymmetry is more bothersome for you.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    yeah mate, i think its a fantastic idea. it has also changed my life, i refused an outing to the beach with some friends as i dont want my hair wet when just 8 weeks ago i was going to the beach 5 times a week on my holidays. its srsly f*****. and when you have a bad hair day, like i did today and eysteray, it is terrible. feel worthless and feel like im expiring.

    Appreciate the input, rupe. Thanks for the support. You're not alone with what you're feeling. Hair loss is ****ed up for sure.
  • 02-11-2012 08:41 PM
    Maradona
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Glad you all feel similarly. This condition is indeed life-changing. Hair, in most cases, is a big part of who we are as a person. It is intrinsically part of our identity for the better part of our youth. Losing our hair can be seriously detrimental to our lives in so many ways.



    Hair loss is never easy, no matter your gender. This is a tough battle, but all we can do is stay optimistic. Never should we let this affliction dictate how we live our lives. You are indeed beautiful, I'm glad you realize this. We all have many things to be thankful for.



    Glad you support the idea. And I feel you man. Hair loss has literally become a daily struggle for me. Every time I see myself in a mirror or a window reflection I'm reminded of this affliction. My confidence, gone. Vulnerable and paranoid are very accurate words to describe what I've been feeling.



    The rate at which hair loss can progress surprises me sometimes as well. Looking back at old facebook photos is terrible man, just terrible. Not the least bit helpful (obviously), but I try to stay off facebook most of the time anyway. Interesting that you're not necessarily worried about losing hair in general, but the issue of asymmetry is more bothersome for you.



    Appreciate the input, rupe. Thanks for the support. You're not alone with what you're feeling. Hair loss is ****ed up for sure.

    Good call definitely need this sub forum.
  • 02-12-2012 06:24 AM
    rupe
    What to do? I am feeling so depressed about this :( About 4 weeks after stopping propecia (around 2.5 months ago), my hair has been shedding intensely and it has not stopped or slowed. It is like its progressing so fast, now i have to use toppik or you can see my scalp, and you can see my scalp anyway as toppik is not perfect. This morning I woke up and laid in bed for over an hour debating about whether to go to get a hair cut and get it cut short... which I ended up deciding to do but couldn't find anything on a Sunday. Its like cutting it short means I have accepted my hair is going, and I have no idea what it is going to look like short. Might it look even worse?! They say you shouldn't have long hair when thinning as the long hairs stick together and make it look thinner. Just over a month on minoxidil, nizoral and saw palmetto and now it has been 3 days on revivogen. Every time I shampoo my hair tens of hairs come out i will no longer use nizoral.

    I know of someone who I hung out with once recently who went bald (he is friend of friend). We were going out, and he went in a seperate car, and the others were bitching about him, saying he said he had something called 'alopecia' and they told him to just to shave his head cos it will look better. Just went through his facebook photos and feel so sorry for him. I don't want this to be me next :( I am trying everythign I can to stop it, I tried propeca but this is no longer an option. I wish there were others around with same thing, but you never see a young guy balding in the streets :(
  • 02-12-2012 07:26 AM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    ...saying he said he had something called 'alopecia' and...

    All types of hair loss are called alopecia. Male and female pattern baldness, hereditary hair loss, is called "androgenetic alopecia".



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    ...I don't want this to be me next :( I am trying everythign I can to stop it.

    You are wasting your time, money and hair on things that are not going to help you and avoiding the very things that are most able to help you. This problem obviously does not bother you enough to take treating it seriously. Sure we all wish there were more options. We all wish there were better options - but at this time there aren't any better options. The current proven treatments work for most people who use them and most people who use them do not experience side effects. Use them or don't use them. It is entirely up to do.
  • 02-12-2012 07:29 AM
    rupe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    You are wasting your time, money and hair on things that are not going to help you and avoiding the very things that are most able to help you. This problem obviously does not bother you enough to take treating it seriously. Sure we all wish there were more options. We all wish there were better options - but at this time there aren't any better options. The current proven treatments work for most people who use them and most people who use them do not experience side effects. Use them or don't use them. It is entirely up to do.

    What are you taklign about saying the problem does not bother me enough to take treating it seriously? What makes you say that?
  • 02-12-2012 07:53 AM
    StressedToTheBald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    I tried propeca but this is no longer an option.

    Think about beta sitosterol+saw palmetto.. I will soon finish my first month.. Its the best alternative to propecia. It sadly takes time but so does propecia.
  • 02-12-2012 07:54 AM
    rupe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StressedToTheBald View Post
    Think about beta sitosterol+saw palmetto.. I will soon finish my first month.. Its the best alternative to propecia. It sadly takes time but so does propecia.

    I'm not syre where to get beta sitosterol from? Does it come in tablet form? Revivogen contains this I believe.
  • 02-12-2012 08:10 AM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    What makes you say that?

    You are wasting your time, money and hair on bogus treatments that are not going to help you and avoiding the treatments that are most likely to help you. That is why I say that.
  • 02-12-2012 08:11 AM
    StressedToTheBald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    I'm not syre where to get beta sitosterol from? Does it come in tablet form? Revivogen contains this I believe.

    You can find it online pretty much anywhere.. there are many brands, I currently use Natrol, but there are other brands too. It comes in the tablet form. The most important thing is concentration per tablet - the more the better. I currently use 510mg of beta sitosterol + 300mg of saw palmetto daily.. I believe it has to be taken orally - to block DHT, I'm not sure that topical solution has any similar effect, or if it does.. it might be ways more limited. Also, certain more rare foods include beta sitosterol.. pistachios, avocados, almonds, canola oil etc.

    Here is an interesting interview with a beta sitosterol user:

    "Here it is, what you’ve all been waiting for, the interview with WidowsPeak. If you haven’t heard of this fella, he’s experienced remarkable hair re-growth from primarily using beta sitosterol. Without further a do…

    How do you think beta-sitoserol has helped you to regrow your hair?


    I believe that beta-sis works by blocking the binding of 5ar to testosterone to make DHT. This process still happens, so the body gets some DHT (which it needs), but not enough to kill hair follicles. This allows the hair to regrow.

    How long was it before you started seeing significant regrowth?

    I started to see hairs regrowing within a few weeks of taking beta-sis. It took about 6 months before I could see that I had hair regrowing about 1/2 inch below where my hairline was. Many of the hairs had no pigmentation, so I dyed them black and was able to capture hair regrowing about 1/4 inch down on film.
    That’s how it’s been for over 2 years. I get 1/2 inch of regrowth in the temples, the 1/4 inch nearest the hairline shows up in photos and the other 1/4 inch shows up on film 6 months later.
    So, everytime I post pics there is actually more hair regrowing than what you’re seeing, which is how I’m able to predict more regrowth every 6 months. That will stop, once I get back to a straight hairline, or however close I can get to that. I think I’ve always had a slight widows peak, but time will tell.

    Did you get any side effects (positive or negative) from taking beta-sitoserol?

    I noticed an increased libido almost immediately. I also noticed that when I first started taking beta-sis, my scalp got really oily. A week later, I noticed that my temples were starting to itch like crazy.
    The oily scalp went away within about 3 weeks. The itching continues to this day, but is a lot more mild. Since the itching happens before an area regrows, I actually panic if I don’t feel at least a little itching everyday.

    Do you think beta-sitoserol will work for everyone?

    I don’t honestly know. I think that 60% of users responding positively is a fair number. Propecia, which works in a similar way, but is much more powerful, has about an 80% success rate.
    The thing that I will never understand is….I’ve read accounts from at least 3 diferent people who were using beta-sis and had hair regrowing, but then quit because of fears about this or that. Beta-sis is in fruits, vegetables and grains. Have you ever been to the doctor and had him tell you that you were eating too many fruits and vegetables? Of course not.

    What is your supplement regime (quantities / timing / brands / cycling)?

    My regimen:
    Twinlabs Cholesterol Success, 450 mg of beta sitosterol a day for 3 weeks, then 225 mg a day for a week, every month
    Now Foods, Eco-Green Multi Vitamin
    Now Foods, Spirulina, 500 mg
    Now Foods, Grape Seed Standardized Extract, 100 mg
    Now Foods, Glucosamine Sulfate, 1,100 mg
    Now Foods, MSM, 1000mg
    Now Foods, Zinc Supplements, 50mg
    I take my supplements on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and then exercise for an hour.
    A big part of my regimen is the following:
    No shampoo
    No sex
    No junk food
    No meat
    No alcohol or drugs
    No caffeine
    Please understand that you don’t need to take the same brands of supplements that I do. My local health food store just happens to carry the NOW brand.
    Also, if you’re a carnivore, you’re probably getting enough zinc in your diet and over-supplementing with zinc can block your bodys’ absorption of copper.
    Lastly, the spirulina is for the B12 that I don’t get from veggies and the glucosamine is for my back.

    What sorts of foods does your typical daily diet involve?

    I eat 3 small avacados for luch almost everyday. They are high in beta-sis (75mg beta-sis per 100 grams of avacado) and glutathione (an essential amino acid that has anti-aging properties).
    Alot of my diet is geared towards my 18 years as a vegetarian, so I eat things like the grain quinoa (keen-wah) to get all my proteins, I eat some soy, beans, fruits, veggies, brazil nuts (another complete protein). Lately I’ve been eating goji berries (another complete protein with 18 amino acids), as they have a polysaccharide in them that naturally boosts the bodys’ Growth Hormone levels.
    I try not to eat after 8pm at night, as that can cause your IGF levels to spike, making you obese.

    How often do you wash you hair and what with? Do you use hot, cold or warm water?

    My hair is essentially self-cleaning, so I only rinse it about once every 2 weeks with cold water. Cold water forces toxins out of your body.

    Do you exercise — if so what exercise for how long and how frequently?

    I ride my bike for 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour at night, as it is my only means of transportation to and from work. I ride up and down some very steep hills, so I think that’s as much exercise as I really need, although I do kung fu a few nights a week.

    What are your sleep patterns?

    I’m up at 6:30 am and in bed by 11pm on weekdays. On the weekends, I tend to stay up later and sleep in until 11am.

    Do you do any scalp exercises?

    I tried them for 6 months and got nothing except for increased wrinkles in my forehead. More power to ya, if they work for you, but nothing regrew hair for me until I found beta-sis.

    Do you use any topicals?
    No.I have used Apple Cider Vinegar and beer to wash my hair when I first quit using shampoo, almost 2 years ago.

    Any other advice or tips for wanna-be regrowth folks out there?

    Taking beta-sis regrew my hair in the temples, but I was still losing hair in the crown. This didn’t stop until I gave up using shampoo. Not using shampoo, or “going grunge” not only stopped the fallout in my crown, but I regrew a bunch of hair.

    Ok. Thank you very much Mr Widows Peak for you time. I’m sure this info will be of great use to many. Cheers!"
  • 02-12-2012 08:12 AM
    rupe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    You are wasting your time, money and hair on bogus treatments that are not going to help you and avoiding the treatments that are most likely to help you. That is why I say that.

    Rogaine is a proven treatment. I believe I have already mentioned that I tried finasteride but had to stop due to side effects or maybe you missed that part?
  • 02-12-2012 08:12 AM
    clandestine
    This thread was not created for the purposes of discussing already available treatment options. Utilize the private messaging systems or a more relevant thread for said discussions.

    Seriously not appreciating this thread being hijacked.

    Please stay on topic. Thank you.
  • 02-12-2012 08:15 AM
    rupe
    Thank Stressedtothebald. I will have a look and add it to my save the hair fund bill lol.
  • 02-12-2012 08:16 AM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Utilize the private messaging systems or a more relevant thread for said discussions.

    The direction this thread went was relevent because it was grounded around how Mr. rupe is coping with his hair loss. Take a chill pill.
  • 02-12-2012 08:17 AM
    StressedToTheBald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    Thank Stressedtothebald. I will have a look and add it to my save the hair fund bill lol.

    You're welcome.
  • 02-12-2012 08:28 AM
    clandestine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    The direction this thread went was relevent because it was grounded around how Mr. rupe is coping with his hair loss. Take a chill pill.

    Tracy, your logic astounds me sometimes.

    Literally every post on the second page of this thread has to do with you and StressedToTheBald debating the efficacy of beta sitosterol versus finasteride. Protip: We've all seen it before elsewhere in the forums (i.e. no one cares anymore, you don't seem to be coming to any earth-shattering revelations regarding the subject any time soon).

    For you to say such a debate is at all related to this thread's intention is a stretch. A massive one, at that. You come off as manipulative, at best. For the sake of others, don't act like you care about the topic at hand when all you've really come here to do is propagate your opinions.

    Sorry if this sounded harsh. Take it as you will.
  • 02-12-2012 08:32 AM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe View Post
    Rogaine is a proven treatment. I believe I have already mentioned that I tried finasteride but had to stop due to side effects or maybe you missed that part?

    I didn't miss that. I believe you are probably a victim of fear mongering. Fear mongering is causing a lot of damage for those coping with hair loss. Living with hair loss is tuff enough without all the fear mongering that is going on right now. Shills from all those bogus hair loss products on the market are capitalizing on it. They are taking advantage of your emotional state and doing everything they can to make sure you stay afraid.
  • 02-12-2012 08:34 AM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    don't act like you care about the topic at hand when all you've really come here to do is propagate your opinions.

    You are completely and totally out of line. I do care. More than you realize.
  • 02-12-2012 12:34 PM
    25 going on 65
    A sub-forum of that kind might be a good idea. Even after successfully treating my hair loss for more than a year, I still find myself mentally struggling with it. There are still days when I feel like I can't even leave my home.

    I think depression from hair loss is very understandable and natural, especially for those in their teens, 20's and 30's. There isn't really any other "benign" condition that so radically, rapidly changes the image of a young adult. It's a bit like losing most of your teeth in 5 years, or seeing your nose or ears double (or halve) in size. It's just this sudden and very visible transformation that isn't even lifestyle-related.. just bad luck in the genetic lottery.

    And just to do my part in hijacking the thread further (sorry OP): I understand Tracy's frustration with fear mongering on this forum. Someone WILL visit this forum who could, with treatment, be a solid NW2 in 8-10 years from now - but instead will be a NW5 or 6 because they think they'll be permanently impotent otherwise (or some other nonsense like that).
    Knowing first-hand how this condition affects our thoughts and emotions, I truly feel sorry for whoever that is. Tracy does too. That's why she hammers on these points; if she manages to save even one person's future, it's worth it.
  • 02-12-2012 12:48 PM
    Winston
    I think a sub forum that sticks solely to the emotional issues related to hair loss is an excellent idea! I’m sure if enough of us ask for it the administrators of this site will eventually add one. Let’s please stay on topic so this thread can be recognized by the admins of the forum.
  • 02-15-2012 07:48 PM
    clandestine
    Feeling rather introverted lately. Continually self conscious in some respects. Worried about appearance in many social situations, anxiety kicks in pretty frequently.

    Hm, been feeling more introverted since I've gone off to uni. Can't seem to shake negative thought patterns, though I can identify them.

    How are you guys making out?
  • 02-15-2012 08:01 PM
    Maradona
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Feeling rather introverted lately. Continually self conscious in some respects. Worried about appearance in many social situations, anxiety kicks in pretty frequently.

    Hm, been feeling more introverted since I've gone off to uni. Can't seem to shake negative thought patterns, though I can identify them.

    How are you guys making out?

    man im same as you only difference that I'm still in College and ITS HELL to go to college for me but its my last semester !!! so everyone will probably remember me as the hairy guy if I can keep up with the hats and hiding as much as possible...good thing it's winter.

    Another thing: i take the train at late night so it's less crowded thats how self concious I am.

    I think we should sugest this idea of a sub forum in the bald truth show on sunday, its a great idea. However I think it would have like 1000 posts a day, idk if that could be bad.:(
  • 02-15-2012 08:10 PM
    NotBelievingIt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Feeling rather introverted lately. Continually self conscious in some respects. Worried about appearance in many social situations, anxiety kicks in pretty frequently.

    Hm, been feeling more introverted since I've gone off to uni. Can't seem to shake negative thought patterns, though I can identify them.

    How are you guys making out?

    If I'm alone, I think about my hair and strangely, I think about what others think even though there are no others - except the cats LOL. And that constant thinking about it leads to the negative thoughts.

    I've found myself feeling better when I'm around people and simply stop thinking about my hair and think about the situation and the other people. Later I realize that I interacted with this person as myself and that was who was reacted to. Not my hair.

    My advice to you would be to get the hell out of the dorm room. Spend time around people and interact with them. Especially at a university there has to be a social group you can join with like minded people about some hobby that you can talk about and enjoy an activity together.

    Whats helped me since my "realization" back in October is going to a local indoor climbing gym and meeting some folks in classes. The people there simply do not care and if they do or even notice, they do not express it in any way which is basically exactly the same. I suppose it helps there is a good handful of regulars that have completed shaved it off, or have super short hair, so scalp isn't uncommon.

    Its also been helpful that a couple of the friends I've met are good looking girls who climb with me, talk with me and laugh with me. That kind of interaction is a positive and uplifting.

    Repeat to yourself when you're feeling down:
    Those That Matter Do Not Mind and Those That Mind Do Not Matter
  • 02-15-2012 08:11 PM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Can't seem to shake negative thought patterns, though I can identify them.

    How are you guys making out?

    It certainly is not easy. One of the tricks I've learned is to sit down and make a list of all the things that make me happy. More often than not doing this has a snowball effect because each thing I write down reminds me of something else that makes me happy.
  • 02-15-2012 08:37 PM
    clandestine
    Thanks for the replies everyone, as well as the support.

    @Maradona; I think suggesting it on the bald truth talk to Spencer is a great idea. Try to stay strong my man.


    @NotBelievingIt; Entirely true. Those that truly matter in life, won't mind. And those that do, don't matter. I think it's great you've taken up an interest in climbing. I've been a couple times myself, very fun.

    "Later I realize that I interacted with this person as myself and that was who was reacted to. Not my hair."
    This is a great statement man, very true indeed.

    And yes, I probably need to get out of my dorm room more often. Unfortunately I've had an ear injury that prevents me from really going out at night/ listening to music (i.e. going downtown). Sorta been rough.

    I realize the steps I need to take towards acceptance, non-resistance. Nonetheless, I often feel along in this struggle among my age group.

    Gotta be strong though, all we can do is try to be our best!


    @Tracy C; Great tip Tracy. Reality is your focus, perception. We must remain grateful for that which we have in life. Wanted to apologize as well for my previous post in this thread towards you, I was frustrated at the time.

    Also, I'd like to share this with you all.

    http://8tracks.com/whatsyourname/i-w...ess-out-of-you

    First couple songs are a great listen, rather inspirational. Brought my mood up.
  • 02-23-2012 10:20 AM
    clandestine
    Got a haircut yesterday.

    Felt good for a little while, but the hair loss is still noticeable. Really hits my confidence. This, mostly when I'm going out with friends or being around other people. Turning into a sort of social anxiety in some instances.
  • 02-23-2012 11:27 AM
    NotBelievingIt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Got a haircut yesterday.

    Felt good for a little while, but the hair loss is still noticeable. Really hits my confidence. This, mostly when I'm going out with friends or being around other people. Turning into a sort of social anxiety in some instances.

    Try not looking at yourself in the mirror. Out of sight out of mind.

    Of course as a guy that can be tough when you have to shave :)
  • 02-24-2012 09:23 PM
    clandestine
    Just wrote a reply. A long one, rather decent. About 5 paragraphs about how I'm currently feeling. Pushed the wrong button on my keyboard somehow, lost it.

    Somehow I feel it doesn't matter anyway. It was more just my thoughts, realizing how truly inhibited I am by this affliction. Then some what ifs, what if I were truly uninhibited? Imagining a scenario where I could maybe care less about hair loss.

    Feels like I'm falling short of my potential. Losing sight of who I am as a person sometimes. Held back. This all sounds very dismal. Fact is, it is. I apologize.

    I encourage you all to vent. However you're feeling currently. Good; bad; optimistic; ****ing pissed; apathetic; abysmal; high; low. Doesn't matter. Writing helps.
  • 02-25-2012 07:41 AM
    NotBelievingIt
    Writing thoughts and feelings down is cathartic - so is talking to someone and just letting it spill. It allows you to release emotions on your terms.
  • 02-25-2012 09:36 AM
    lucrio
    About what clandestine said regarding losing out on potential. This is exactly how I feel. If my head was not always filled with worries about my hair and if hairloss was not inhibiting me from doing things I would be doing otherwise, it seems I could be accomplishing so much more. Before I began losing my hair I was able to be good at anything I put my mind to, now it seems that a portion of my brain function is constantly spent worrying and that losisng my hair makes me feel like an overall failure.
  • 02-25-2012 09:44 AM
    chrisis
    I'm finding myself having second thoughts if friends ask me out somewhere. If I don't fix this I fear I will become a hairless hermit! :(

    Also tired of the wind recently. I didn't notice until recently how windy my city is. You can get an umbrella for rain, but with wind you can do nothing!!!
  • 02-25-2012 03:17 PM
    NotBelievingIt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    Also tired of the wind recently. I didn't notice until recently how windy my city is. You can get an umbrella for rain, but with wind you can do nothing!!!

    Best defense against wind and rain is to just keep it short such that any minor "swish" can be easily hand fixed.
  • 02-26-2012 09:37 AM
    chrisis
    I look best with my hair grown out a bit or I'd definitely have it shorter.

    I just realised that straightening my hair makes it much more susceptible to wind, so may stop doing that.... at least until after my ht.
  • 02-27-2012 06:01 AM
    clandestine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    I look best with my hair grown out a bit or I'd definitely have it shorter.

    I just realised that straightening my hair makes it much more susceptible to wind, so may stop doing that.... at least until after my ht.

    Interesting, you've decided to go the route of HT? Does this not however require continual use of propecia post-op?

    Hows your endeavour to experiment with lower dosages going, chrisis?
  • 02-27-2012 09:32 AM
    chrisis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine View Post
    Interesting, you've decided to go the route of HT? Does this not however require continual use of propecia post-op?

    Hows your endeavour to experiment with lower dosages going, chrisis?

    I'm not touching finasteride again until I'm happy that my sides are totally gone. I think things are getting better, so maybe I'll start on 0.25mg in a few weeks.

    If I can't tolerate finasteride, I'll just have to use minoxidil, Nizoral shampoo and some of the other supplements outside of the big 3, e.g. zinc, maybe saw palmetto (if I don't get sides).

    I'm also keeping an eye on Replicel and other companies. If they come out with something promising, then it's possible any future hairloss could be remedied at a cellular level. It's gonna take a few years to come to market, so I doubt I'll be waiting that long even if they get 100% success!

    So long as I get my hairline sorted, I feel relatively confident given, a) my comparatively minor balding pattern at age 28, and b) advances in therapies, that I will be ok :)
  • 02-27-2012 09:40 AM
    clandestine
    Great attitude, stay hopeful mate.Hope your sides subside (no pun intended).

    Saw palmetto might be an option. I've contemplated using it myself. Along with beta sitosterol, or whatever it was STTB was pushing. Problem is I've had sexual sides on SSRI's in the past, and am skeptical to use anything that might have negative effects in that respect. Especially not propecia, regardless of potential risk.

    I've been trying out nanogen fibres for the last little while. I've been generally happy with them, aside from the fact they don't necessarily work the best on the hairline or where my temples are slick bald.

    Try em out maybe, if you're up for it. Hey, if women are allowed makeup, we should be allowed concealers too! ;)

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