Hey guys, I just had the idea of alongside writing a research paper about the mechanism of AGA (ROS/oxidative stress) to write a updated RU guide alongside with it. The research paper will be going quite in-depth. The RU guide will be just a ordinary guide and for that I am in need of some RU58841 user based results, so if you have them even if combined with other treatments I would like too have them! You would be of great help thanks.
There needs to be a bigger database of pictures for RU-58841 anyways because many people say they use it with good success, but pictures always say more and have validity. Thanks in advance guys. I'll start with some;
I'll add pics when I get to see any. BTW, can you let me know about the sources of the RU you use? I am eager to try RU along with Fins or Duts but am not sure where I should by it from. I guess once we discuss it here more people would try it. The sources I know are Kane, PHG and Faith eagle.
10-11-2014 12:12 PM
Dan26
Some of these guys use way more than RU. But I know for each guy RU plays a big part in their sucess ie they were on other stuff for a while before adding RU and getting a boost (1), long tiem minox user who added RU and is not usind fin/dut (2), not using fin/dut (3) etcc
good work man, looking forward to that paper!
10-11-2014 03:37 PM
Notcoolanymore
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Originally Posted by ank1
Kane, PHG and Faith eagle.
Why do these guys always have these crazy names? I get my stuff from Double Dragon.
On a serious note, along with the pics people should also give their regimen.
10-12-2014 01:44 AM
Hairismylife
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Originally Posted by Notcoolanymore
Why do these guys always have these crazy names? I get my stuff from Double Dragon.
On a serious note, along with the pics people should also give their regimen.
Kane not good?
10-13-2014 06:23 AM
Swooping
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Originally Posted by ank1
I'll add pics when I get to see any. BTW, can you let me know about the sources of the RU you use? I am eager to try RU along with Fins or Duts but am not sure where I should by it from. I guess once we discuss it here more people would try it. The sources I know are Kane, PHG and Faith eagle.
Thanks guys! Anageninc, Kane and PHG are all good for RU.
10-13-2014 07:09 AM
lilpauly
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Originally Posted by Dan26
Some of these guys use way more than RU. But I know for each guy RU plays a big part in their sucess ie they were on other stuff for a while before adding RU and getting a boost (1), long tiem minox user who added RU and is not usind fin/dut (2), not using fin/dut (3) etcc
good work man, looking forward to that paper!
correct dan, ru is part of of regimen. it helps stop the balding process, for regrowth u need the growth stims as well.!
10-25-2014 10:24 AM
Boldy
More and more people starting to document their progress.
A person with forum name "unbalding" on other forum is using 8% ru solution and posted these pictures:
this what hairykirma said regardiing the ru :All the peaks are in their expected positions, and there is no question regarding the exchangeable proton on the -OH (if this is what Kane means by "active" H). The baseline is also clean, so we can conclude that the compound is very pure. with regards to the cb test : impressivly clean and pure .
about me having him test the ru and cb:
then : It is better this way, because then we don't have to guess the experimental standards/integration of other chemists.
11-06-2014 12:55 AM
lilpauly
ok batch number 10102013 and the new batch of cb have been tested by hairykirsma.
Chris,
The CB and RU results are in, and the NMR spectra are attached. Both compounds are of pharmaceutical-grade purity. We could not detect any impurities, and the baselines are textbook-perfect. All the peaks are in their expected positions and the proton integration corresponds to the molecular formula (34 for CB, and 18 for RU). Notice how different the integration is between our spectra and the ones that you sent us from other labs: ours actually add up correctly because we know what we're doing! The baselines are also completely different - notice how rough and noisy their baselines are, which makes it hard to differentiate from impurity. This is how spectra are meant to be done! So, let me reassure you, that the compounds you sent us are of the highest quality and we'd feel comfortable putting it on our heads if we had to.
Post the following attachments to the forum so that they can see our work if they doubt us, and encourage all the haters to compare our results with the other spectra. This is superior to their work.
11-06-2014 12:56 AM
lilpauly
another test result from a few months ago.
test results for ru third party
hi chris,
I am happy to inform you the results look excellent. The compound is very pure and all the hydrogen absorptions are present at the right chemical shifts and match the correct number of hydrogens for the RU structure.
finally, we are testing ru and dia from a group buy and will have results from them as well once the diazoxide group buy closes
11-06-2014 02:52 AM
chrisrules
Hi lilpauly, the links to this pdf and the others you have posted are broken
12-13-2014 08:41 AM
Boldy
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Originally Posted by chrisrules
Hi lilpauly, the links to this pdf and the others you have posted are broken
any updates? thinking, maintenance or regrowth? I switched back from 5 to 2.5% at the hairline and it seems to have the same effect. Hair keeps looking thicker and healthier behind the HT hairline. I have added Topical Anti oxidant ( 5% vitamin C) to combat oxidative stress, this is very important especially or the people who use a hairdryer, RU can protect the dp cells only from androgen caused stress, but not from environmental stress, physical stress or induced oxidative stress caused by excess use of hairdryers.
12-16-2014 12:44 PM
Swooping
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Originally Posted by Boldy
any updates? thinking, maintenance or regrowth? I switched back from 5 to 2.5% at the hairline and it seems to have the same effect. Hair keeps looking thicker and healthier behind the HT hairline. I have added Topical Anti oxidant ( 5% vitamin C) to combat oxidative stress, this is very important especially or the people who use a hairdryer, RU can protect the dp cells only from androgen caused stress, but not from environmental stress, physical stress or induced oxidative stress caused by excess use of hairdryers.
I think generally oxidative stress isn't an issue though, not if you disable the androgen receptor. Just look at people who suffer from androgen insensitivity syndrome.
12-16-2014 01:10 PM
Boldy
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Originally Posted by Swooping
I think generally oxidative stress isn't an issue though, not if you disable the androgen receptor. Just look at people who suffer from androgen insensitivity syndrome.
Agreed it isn't indeed, however reducing ROS in already senescenced cells , or accumulating ros caused by heat shock or environmental stress , can't hurt to keep the cells in shape for longer periods. ;)
03-09-2015 04:58 AM
Swooping
This guy added in RU after being 12 years on finasteride. Albeit subtle still had an improvement and claims that it works better than finasteride did all those years. Pretty awesome that after such a long time antagonizing the AR can still give improvement in terms of hair quality.
Hi great topic. My dermatologist prescriped me propecia 3 years ago but I started developing puffy nipples shortly after. I've decided to drop fina and started experimenting with ru58841
I have been using ru58841 5% k&b from kane for almost 2 years now, and hair is still doing better.
My regime is ru minox +biotin tabs. I will add oc000459-ethanol next month for more regrowth
Looking forward to oc000459 and sepip.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilpauly
ok batch number 10102013 and the new batch of cb have been tested by hairykirsma.
Chris,
The CB and RU results are in, and the NMR spectra are attached. Both compounds are of pharmaceutical-grade purity. We could not detect any impurities, and the baselines are textbook-perfect. All the peaks are in their expected positions and the proton integration corresponds to the molecular formula (34 for CB, and 18 for RU). Notice how different the integration is between our spectra and the ones that you sent us from other labs: ours actually add up correctly because we know what we're doing! The baselines are also completely different - notice how rough and noisy their baselines are, which makes it hard to differentiate from impurity. This is how spectra are meant to be done! So, let me reassure you, that the compounds you sent us are of the highest quality and we'd feel comfortable putting it on our heads if we had to.
Post the following attachments to the forum so that they can see our work if they doubt us, and encourage all the haters to compare our results with the other spectra. This is superior to their work.
04-23-2015 06:59 AM
Swooping
Awesome result too only 3 months into minoxidil + RU. Cut to same hair length;
WOW great results! Im planning to add minox very soon. But really dont expect or need that much regrowth tough
04-23-2015 01:19 PM
reedstiffer
Has anyone experienced side effects from RU?
04-23-2015 08:44 PM
liba
Thanks dude, could you pls also provide some sources of the pictures?
04-23-2015 11:54 PM
joely
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Originally Posted by reedstiffer
Has anyone experienced side effects from RU?
Slight libido and erection issues but not half as bad as fin gave me and the results are a lot better! However last couple of weeks it has been a lot better so no real issues, I use 3% pre mixed solution in of and ethanol, have just ordered same strength in KB to see if that helps at all!
04-24-2015 01:02 AM
champpy
Hey guys im interested in adding this to my regimen. Can someone please tell me if the RU that I buy is premixed and ready to apply to my head or is there some mixing that has to happen first?
AND
Who has the best RU, regardless of price?
Im also lost as to how much and how often to use?
Does it need to be stored in a special way? Refrigerated?
If anyone can help answer these, Im going to try my hardest to acquire some and start on this asap. Ill provide pictures as well
04-24-2015 02:07 AM
joely
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Originally Posted by champpy
Hey guys im interested in adding this to my regimen. Can someone please tell me if the RU that I buy is premixed and ready to apply to my head or is there some mixing that has to happen first?
AND
Who has the best RU, regardless of price?
Im also lost as to how much and how often to use?
Does it need to be stored in a special way? Refrigerated?
If anyone can help answer these, Im going to try my hardest to acquire some and start on this asap. Ill provide pictures as well
You can but it either in powder form and make the vehicle and mix it yourself, or you can by it in pre mixed solutions at various concentrations! If you do opt to mix it yourself Hellouser has put a really good guide on this forum, personally I use the pre mixed stuff mostly because I'm lazy! A lot of ppl suggest that it is not as effective as making it yourself but it's working very well for me!
I use 100ml once a day before going to bed of 3% others use 200ml or use it twice a day it's really a matter for yourself to see what works best for you!
It's best kept in the freezer but can be kept in the fridge!
You can get it from various online providers the ones I'm aware of are Kane, Anageninc and RU Solutions! Others may be able to add others that I'm not aware of, I believe these are all pretty reliable places!
04-24-2015 03:44 AM
Swooping
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Originally Posted by Tenma
WOW great results! Im planning to add minox very soon. But really dont expect or need that much regrowth tough
Yes Tenma these are easily 50% growth rates. The guy must be ecstatic. Good luck with the minoxidil brother I hope you are a good responder!
04-24-2015 02:59 PM
Tenma
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Yes Tenma these are easily 50% growth rates. The guy must be ecstatic. Good luck with the minoxidil brother I hope you are a good responder!
Thanks man! I think it should perform really well on top of dut and ru.
04-24-2015 03:20 PM
burtandernie
RU needs a sticky or something. What places are safe to buy it from? I know kane and anagen but what about other places. I was wondering about aarc.chems since its US shipping. It mentions needing to be licensed chemist so is it legal to buy without DEA kicking in my door? I dont want to go to jail for buying RU
RU in theory is one of the most potent AAs ever made and you have to keep in mind it competes with testosterone not just DHT. I would suspect that makes a big difference. I would think CB will be similar and more powerful than fin just from that fact alone. THey said 2 times as strong in concentration in preclinical study I think
04-25-2015 12:14 AM
Pate
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Originally Posted by Swooping
Yes Tenma these are easily 50% growth rates. The guy must be ecstatic. Good luck with the minoxidil brother I hope you are a good responder!
More like 100% plus! He's easily doubled his hair density.
I am exited by that because his before shot is pretty similar to me.
I doubt I will get that sort of result because I am already on fin but it's great to see such a good responder. That is easily one of the very best regrowth stories I have ever seen.
