The thing im most... utterly shocked about is the fact that they improved TERMINAL hair count in the temporal regions... I mean even if you dosed up on 5mg of Fin and applied 12.5% minox twice a day everyday for a year you wouldnt even see a few vellus hairs -
Histogen however were able to increase TERMINAL hair count in the temporal regions by 25%!!!
And this was what... after one/two doses spread over 24 weeks? LOL incredible.
I think these were the kind of results/figures we wanted to hear from Replicel back in April lol. Does anyone else agree/disagree with that?
10-19-2012 02:29 PM
yeahyeahyeah
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Originally Posted by UK_
The thing im most... utterly shocked about is the fact that they improved TERMINAL hair count in the temporal regions... I mean even if you dosed up on 5mg of Fin and applied 12.5% minox twice a day everyday for a year you wouldnt even see a few vellus hairs -
Histogen however were able to increase TERMINAL hair count in the temporal regions by 25%!!!
And this was what... after one/two doses spread over 24 weeks? LOL incredible.
I think these were the kind of results/figures we wanted to hear from Replicel back in April lol. Does anyone else agree/disagree with that?
I am sure histogen will release more news in the coming months.
If you are a receeder, with no thinning elseware. I am sure your hair will hold out by the time it gets released.
Tend to find that diffuse thinners are the one's who lose their hair quickly.
Finally, even if you don't get regrowth with HSC, you are more than likely to maintain your existing hair, which is a good thing if you want to avoid taking fin.
Yeah my hair is strong on top, no loo at all. And I have receded quite slowly, but I though Histogen could only regrow new hair, i.e. not keep current hair?
10-19-2012 02:54 PM
yeahyeahyeah
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Yeah my hair is strong on top, no loo at all. And I have receded quite slowly, but I though Histogen could only regrow new hair, i.e. not keep current hair?
Both.
Look at the picture they released , the guy has clearly maintained.
10-19-2012 04:15 PM
JJJJrS
The press release sounds great but I need to see more pictures before I'm convinced. If so many responded positively to the treatment, then they should be able to provide plenty of pics soon.
The pictures that were posted on this thread are hard to evaluate. For example, for the male, the lighting is much stronger in the before picture than the after picture. Strong lighting will make a crown appear thinner. The female one is more consistent, but the quality isn't the greatest and it's a bit dark. They both seem to show improvement but I'd like to see more and hopefully the next set of pictures they present will be of much better quality.
10-19-2012 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by UK_
Yep Tin_Man was talking out of his ass 2 years ago. "wnt ligands wont work" hahaha stupid tin man.
What? You call guys like Dr. George Cotsarelis "Tin_Man" who recognised ...
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This suggests that these Wnt-overexpressing mice were already
predisposed to growing more hair. Thus, Cotsarelis' recognition
that "... to date there has been no evidence that
extracellular Wnt ligands can promote actual hair follicle neogenesis in
adult skin"(Ito et al. 2007, Nature 447:316-321 , at p. 319) remains correct.
?? Lots of other scientist said this (quote) - because they recognised the same. That's the reason why they say "remains correct".
But you trust NUMBERS written in an article published on "PR web" ???
And YEAH, Cotsarelis is still right - or did YOU see anywhere hair follicle neogenesis in adult skin due to Wnt ligands? :rolleyes:
Everything what you could see so far are just NUMBERS in an PR article which nobody can't (should be able to) interpret. And yeah, everything they know is that the NUMBERS should be appear big - to convince all the extreme clever guys like you ... :D
10-19-2012 05:53 PM
2020
The results are pathetic. What was the point of Phase II really? What will they try doing at Phase III? Those people are incompetent and nothing will ever pan out from this. I'm out...
The results are pathetic. What was the point of Phase II really? What will they try doing at Phase III? Those people are incompetent and nothing will ever pan out from this. I'm out...
You know for a fact that they're incompetent do you? Tell me do you work with the them?
Why do people always have to be so negative? So far the news seems good and it can only be improved on. Why must people breed negativity?
And what exactly are you 'out' of? You're pathetic.
10-19-2012 06:15 PM
2020
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You know for a fact that they're incompetent, do you? Do you work with the them?
most scientists and vast majority of people in general are. Five years is a long time and they got nothing. That's 5 years wasted from their life. Good job
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Originally Posted by Breaking Bald
Why do people always have to be so negative? So far the news seems good and it can only be improved on. Why must people breed negativity?
They're not good at all. Their pictures show close to zero new hair. Then in that new video they're talking about this taking another five years... what for? This either works or it doesn't
10-19-2012 06:24 PM
Breaking Bald
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Originally Posted by 2020
most scientists and vast majority of people in general are. Five years is a long time and they got nothing. That's 5 years wasted from their life. Good job
They're not good at all. Their pictures show close to zero new hair. Then in that new video they're talking about this taking another five years... what for? This either works or it doesn't
This is all relatively new science that is still being developed and is just beginning to be understood properly. If it's such a failure then why wouldn't just give up? The fact that they may spend more time on it, means that it probably has FURTHER potential.
