• 08-16-2012 10:36 AM
    Spex
    Part translated slightly better :

    I would like to answer to all people's doubts by telling you the main differences between tattooing and SMP. In SMP procedures, the expert works with different kinds of pigments as they get completely absorbed by our immunary system thanks to a natural reaction of our body. These pigments are chemically made up of metal powders and a liquid part. Metal powders are iron oxides(red, black and yellow) and titanium dioxide(white). By mixing these powders you can obtain various colors. Red, black, yellow and white give always a brown coloration. Metal powders can be found in nature in various forms(for example titanium dioxide is spherical, red iron oxide has a star-constitution, black iron oxide's shape is like a cloud and yellow iron oxide is oval) and dimensions. If you put in the skin a color made up of these four elements as they can be found in nature, our immunitary system would eat before smaller and spherical powders(which are easier to be eaten by phagocytes), leaving the star-shaped and most difficult ones at the end. *So SMP pigments undergo an important process in the process of synthesizing in laboratory, known as micronization. Micronization consists of various passages in laboratory which get the powders all alike for shape and dimension. These passages are:
    -Centrifugation, to get all metal powders spherical
    -Encapsulation, to make powders keep their forms(also this passage gets all powders hypoallergenic because it does not let a direct contact between metals and organism)
    -Sieving, to filter only powders with dimensions inferior to 15 microns(our immunary system, composed of cells known as macrofages, eats only external agents with dimensions inferior to 20 microns).
    SMP pigments are composed of metal powders coated with a biocompatible membrane, with spherical shape and dimensions inferior to 15 microns. Liquid part is composed of denatured water, isopropyl alcohol and polyglycerol(derived from soy).
    Immunitary system is not able to recognize the least from the biggest, the spherical-shaped and star ones. Immunitary system sees all alike and eats every external agent in the same way. As all powders are smaller than even the least defense cells, we are more than sure that the pigment will fade. Tattoo pigments contain pigments with dimensions of at least 30 micron; because of this our body is not able to make the pigment fade.
  • 08-16-2012 11:17 AM
    Stevie R
    @Spex, thanks for the break down of Milena's SMP procedure. However, this was not the question I asked, yet I understand why you don't have all the evidence yet and that you yourself are not an expert. This is understandable, I'm sorry you couldn't hang with a little joking but I am sure you can understand how many on these forums just want straight talk and facts as non of us are tattoo experts. This is what I wanted to know "How do we know that the fading won't turn green or blue? How, do we know it will fade? How do we know how long it will take to fade? Any proof yet? (I mean pictures/video)". Basically I just want to see results (as I am sure many do), but again yes I am impressed with how it looks..just don't want to look like one of the Smurfs and yes I will be patient but you can't expect us too be silent as this new SMP is coming out as it gives us options to hide our scars as well. Also I said if you can prove it I'm in. I will try to research on the Italian forums and try to find some proof of the fading (I hope I can as I have no ulterior motive). Anyway I am sure everyone appreciates the spotlight you put on this stuff I am just saying I am not sold yet, but maybe with some time I will be.
  • 08-16-2012 06:05 PM
    topcat
    Has this been tested for safety?
  • 08-16-2012 07:01 PM
    Kiwi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topcat View Post
    Has this been tested for safety?

    Yes. Otherwise all her patients on her site would be dead.
  • 08-17-2012 07:16 PM
    northeastguy
    Nice demponstration on how it is done....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...HX5TGOuLM&NR=1
  • 08-20-2012 12:17 AM
    Spex
    Thanks for sharing the link NEG.

    Answers to questions from Milena:


    1) The pigment powders are made all equal in the laboratory. For this reason they can not change color as they are eliminated.In the composition there is no blue color. They can not turn blue. I will explain this important part to Dr Feller and Dr Lindsey in New York too.

    2) The dust is filtered to have the certainty that they are all smaller than the defense cells. If they are smaller they are all absorbable. Certification exists for this.

    3) I will try to contact some old patient who no longer have done the maintenance to take pictures to show nothing resides or remains.
  • 08-20-2012 06:11 AM
    Stevie R
    Sounds good Spex, I am excited to see this patient with prior pics and/or video that documents his case.
  • 08-21-2012 01:23 PM
    talkingboutblahblah
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    Yes. Otherwise all her patients on her site would be dead.

    What an obnoxious response. Just because something doesn't kill you immediately doesn't make it safe.
  • 08-21-2012 01:25 PM
    Kiwi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talkingboutblahblah View Post
    What an obnoxious response. Just because something doesn't kill you immediately doesn't make it safe.

    Harden up son.
  • 08-21-2012 02:20 PM
    talkingboutblahblah
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kiwi View Post
    Harden up son.

    LOL. You know nothing about immunology, son.

    Plz go.

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