• 05-04-2011 07:38 AM
    UK Boy
    PRP + Acell Treatment is now available in the UK
    ACell – PRP Introduced to London, UK
    Posted on April 27, 2011 by admin
    Leading U.S. hair restoration researcher and surgeon to bring revolutionary injectable treatment that helps regenerate hair to London cosmetic practice.

    NEW YORK, NY – - Hair loss may be a thing of the past for a certain heir to the throne and commoners alike thanks to a vaccination that can help prevent and in some cases reverse hair loss. Gary Hitzig, M.D., a leading hair restoration specialist and pioneer of the ACell / platelet rich plasma (PRP) injections, has been invited to instruct a group of doctors and medical professionals at The Private Clinic in May on this breakthrough in hair restoration therapy.

    Dr. Hitzig’s peers, as well as the medical community at large, are following his hair restoration therapy and consistent results in both men and women experiencing genetic and other forms of hair loss. ACell has been available only in the U.S. and has five FDA allowances, but the British Medical Board recently approved the use and availability of ACell in the UK and Europe through Dr. Hitzig. The Private Clinic, the largest UK cosmetic practice, will be the first medical practice outside the U.S. to be trained in the use of ACell-PRP injections.

    MatriStem MicroMatrix, a product of regenerative medicine innovator, ACell, Inc., is a wound healing powder that promotes healing and tissue growth. Dr. Hitzig has spent years researching and proving that when MatriStem MicroMatrix is combined with PRP, it can help both prevent and regenerate hair in men and women experiencing genetic hair loss.

    Hitzig discovered that if you dissolve the MatriStem powder in a specialized blood serum rich in the patient’s adult stem cells and inject it into the scalp, the combination acts like a hair growth accelerator. Many hair transplant patients experienced significant hair re-growth sooner and the wound where donor hair had been taken and transplanted was completely healed with little or no signs of a scarring.

    “This revolutionary injectable combination of ACell and PRP may be the answer to restoring hair growth for those in the early to moderate stages of hair loss,” said Dr. Hitzig. “Similar to how a flu shot can prevent one from catching the flu, ACell and PRP can help prevent further hair loss and help restore one’s hair. I appreciate the interest and support from the British Medical Board, who in conjunction with my supervision, are making this treatment available to people in the UK through The Private Clinic.”

    Said Hitzig with a smile, “And in case Prince William is interested in regaining more hair in his crown when he returns from his honeymoon, I’ll be sure to bring some extra ACell with me.”

    It's available from this Friday and will cost £1000. I'm thinking of getting it done, I'm not expecting major re-growth but if it's gonna help to maintain the hair I have alongside Propecia and Minox then I think it's worth doing until something better comes along. Any thoughts? Anyone else from the UK gonna get it done?
  • 05-06-2011 08:19 PM
    ThinFast
    Are the injections only done once, or is there a need for follow up injections to maintain any gains like PRP alone is done?
  • 05-08-2011 02:21 AM
    UK Boy
    Is PRP bad?
    OK, I'm really freaked out after reading on another forum that PRP is actually full of Testosterone and DHT and TGF-B1 - all of which are known to cause hair loss. I was gonna get PRP + Acell done, I knew it wasn't proven and that there's been no clinical trials but I was assured it wouldn't make me worse off and the results that are shown seemed to show no further hair loss.

    I really don't know what to think, I'm sure the doctors using PRP will have reasons as to why it's supposedly fine but I really don't know who to believe anymore. I saw an independant article about PRP and it's definately full of TGF-B1 and if you google that in regards to hair loss they call it the hair follicle assasin and show studies that were done to try and inhibit it to help stop hair loss. I can't believe hair restoration doctors would've bushed over this but who knows if they're just in it for the money.

    I wanted to believe in the promise of this but now I really don't think I can risk it. When I think about it more there's a lot of excitement about Acell but to be honest there's not much interest in PRP from the big doctors, they say it's because it's not proven but maybe it's also because they're aware of these factors.

    Why can't someone just do an F**KING clinical trial and prove things for sure, Greco's been using PRP for over 3 years, if he hada started a proper trial back then we would have contrete answers by now!

    I guess I'm just gonna have to keep using Propecia and Minox, hold they hold out until Histogen or something comes out, at least we can trust in these products that are taking so long to come to market because they're being properly trialled for actual hair loss.

    Any feed back would be appreciated, I'm a bit ****ed up about this because as I said I just don't know what to believe, it could just be forum scare mongering but then there does also seem to be truth behind it.
  • 05-08-2011 03:57 AM
    UK_
    Has ACELL/PRP been FDA approved yet for use on the scalp?
  • 05-08-2011 05:49 AM
    UK Boy
    Not as yet for the scalp
    As far as I know PRP has been deemed safe to use because it's from your own body so they feel it doesn't need FDA clearence to be used. Acell has been FDA approved but I don't think specifically for the scalp.

    See that's the worry, I mean Greco and Hitzig have been using PRP for 2/3 years and so far they reckon that it's only made a positive difference and there are people of the forums saying they've had PRP done and it works for them. On the other hand PRP definately contains the growth factor TGF-B1 - I checked it out and that def is involved in hair loss so how can it be good? I guess it's just best to wait right? I don't wanna miss out on a good thing but it just doesn't seem to add up and that scares me.
  • 05-08-2011 06:00 AM
    matlondon
    where is it done, and will it be good on temples?
  • 05-08-2011 06:22 AM
    ALLISWELL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by UK Boy View Post
    OK, I'm really freaked out after reading on another forum that PRP is actually full of Testosterone and DHT and TGF-B1 - all of which are known to cause hair loss. I was gonna get PRP + Acell done, I knew it wasn't proven and that there's been no clinical trials but I was assured it wouldn't make me worse off and the results that are shown seemed to show no further hair loss.

    I really don't know what to think, I'm sure the doctors using PRP will have reasons as to why it's supposedly fine but I really don't know who to believe anymore. I saw an independant article about PRP and it's definately full of TGF-B1 and if you google that in regards to hair loss they call it the hair follicle assasin and show studies that were done to try and inhibit it to help stop hair loss. I can't believe hair restoration doctors would've bushed over this but who knows if they're just in it for the money.

    I wanted to believe in the promise of this but now I really don't think I can risk it. When I think about it more there's a lot of excitement about Acell but to be honest there's not much interest in PRP from the big doctors, they say it's because it's not proven but maybe it's also because they're aware of these factors.

    Why can't someone just do an F**KING clinical trial and prove things for sure, Greco's been using PRP for over 3 years, if he hada started a proper trial back then we would have contrete answers by now!

    I guess I'm just gonna have to keep using Propecia and Minox, hold they hold out until Histogen or something comes out, at least we can trust in these products that are taking so long to come to market because they're being properly trialled for actual hair loss.

    Any feed back would be appreciated, I'm a bit ****ed up about this because as I said I just don't know what to believe, it could just be forum scare mongering but then there does also seem to be truth behind it.


    Dude even i was goin to get prp/acell done to ma scalp but after i read it contains buckets full of Testosterone and DHT i was shocked and i don't want to experiment such a thing on my hair loss as it can make it worsen my hair. I am now NW1 and i am losing my hair very fast. i am just trying to save what i have and for that i can even spent $$$$'s money doesnt matters, hair comes first for me.
  • 05-08-2011 04:18 PM
    ThinFast
    UK Boy, I haven't seen many people praising PRP treatment on this site. I myself have flown to Florida and had a go with Greco's PRP Protein Matrix mix and can say that it did absolutely nothing. No regrowth, no apparent thickening, my hair actually appeared to accelerate in what I was losing, but I'm NOT saying that it was due to the PRP. It could have been that I was a point in my hair loss where it was starting to become noticable more and more with the same amount of hair loss. I'm curious if Hitzig is performing this in the states? I'd hate to hop the pond only to find out that he's already doing this here.
  • 05-08-2011 09:02 PM
    CVAZBAR
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThinFast View Post
    UK Boy, I haven't seen many people praising PRP treatment on this site. I myself have flown to Florida and had a go with Greco's PRP Protein Matrix mix and can say that it did absolutely nothing. No regrowth, no apparent thickening, my hair actually appeared to accelerate in what I was losing, but I'm NOT saying that it was due to the PRP. It could have been that I was a point in my hair loss where it was starting to become noticable more and more with the same amount of hair loss. I'm curious if Hitzig is performing this in the states? I'd hate to hop the pond only to find out that he's already doing this here.

    What about Latisse? You going to try that?
  • 05-09-2011 10:30 AM
    UK Boy
    ThinFast
    Hitzig is gonna be in London at the Private Clinic this Friday and Saturday to teach Dr. Reddy the procedure. After this weekend the Private Clinic will be offering appointments for the treatment every 8 weeks or so, not all the time. So it'll be Hitzig's procedure but not him doing it.
  • 05-09-2011 10:34 AM
    UK Boy
    Decided to wait
    I've decided to wait before trying PRP + Acell, I was really keen on it but £1000 is a lot for something that's not been proven through trials. There's been no major hype over it being to new best thing so I think it's best to wait til it is or until better stuff comes along.
  • 08-15-2011 10:49 AM
    MrRyan
    Will this work on thinning hair in the early stages of MPB, and is there any evidence of this helping thicken up hair on peoples heads.
  • 09-03-2011 10:37 AM
    matlondon
    It does not work.
  • 09-03-2011 11:04 AM
    ALLISWELL
    i agree its useless.
  • 09-03-2011 12:24 PM
    RichardDawkins
    Its useless, skip it
  • 09-03-2011 04:32 PM
    Follicle Death Row
    I concur. You will not find a legitimate scientific reason or believable proposed method of action for this treatment. It should be categorised as pseudoscience bs along with LLLT. I put up a poll about this stuff awhile back. I think it should be called PRP+Acell by the ECE (Easy Cash Extraction) method.

    The doctors that offer this rubbish are laughing all the way to the bank. This industry is still a steaming crock of shite.
  • 11-07-2011 10:28 PM
    PatientlyWaiting
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ThinFast View Post
    Are the injections only done once, or is there a need for follow up injections to maintain any gains like PRP alone is done?

    I would guess you need follow ups for the best results.

    I got Corticosteroid injections by my dermatologist for my Alopecia Areata, I have to take the injections every 3-6 weeks. I got my first injections last week, i'm going back in about 2 weeks. So far so good. The bald spots affected by AA are filling up nice.

    But anyways, I think that's how PRP injections are, only that it take several months for you to go back. And of course they are expensive and medical insurance does not cover them. The Corticosteroid injections are covered.
  • 12-13-2011 02:29 PM
    Chichano
    acell+prp in London
  • 01-28-2012 06:13 PM
    2020
    sorry to bring this up, but how come you are so sure that it doesn't work?? Didn't they mention that this works best for someone with MODERATE hair loss and didn't they say that the hair "grown/recovered" become immune to baldness??
  • 03-06-2012 10:27 PM
    Bromin
    I've spoken to Doctors who have done PRP therapy for baldness and they have said it does indeed stimulate hair growth but it doesn't solve the underlying cause of hair loss for most people with MPH, which is increased levels of DHT. Even if you got hair growth from PRP therapy, they would eventually fall off quickly.

    The procedure itself isn't very pretty and takes quite a bit of manual strain on both the doctor and patient, which deters most doctors from practicing it in the first place.

    I think it would be foolery to say it doesn't help since there is significant scientific data on the benefits of PRP therapy and the therapy itself is evolving to become more beneficial (PRP from fat cells). There are a significant amount of growth factors in our platelets that have been known to initiate regeneration.

    I would still say however, that PRP should be a supplement and one of the last few ditch efforts to increase hair growth since finasteride and minoxidil seems to work for most people.
  • 03-06-2012 10:36 PM
    DepressedByHairLoss
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PatientlyWaiting View Post
    I would guess you need follow ups for the best results.

    I got Corticosteroid injections by my dermatologist for my Alopecia Areata, I have to take the injections every 3-6 weeks. I got my first injections last week, i'm going back in about 2 weeks. So far so good. The bald spots affected by AA are filling up nice.

    But anyways, I think that's how PRP injections are, only that it take several months for you to go back. And of course they are expensive and medical insurance does not cover them. The Corticosteroid injections are covered.

    Glad that your bald spots are filling in nicely. Since corticosteroids work well for people with Alopecia Areata, I've always wondered why they aren't tried on people with male pattern baldness. Here is an article that mentions the role that "harmless" steroids could have to stimulate hair regrowth. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0503161344.htm
  • 03-07-2012 02:35 AM
    TheNitwon
    Corticosteroids suppress the immune system. Alopecia areata is an autoimmune disease where the immune system attacks the hair, and corticosteroids are used to stop this action. Male pattern baldness is caused by DHT, not the immune system, so corticosteroids wouldn't be effective at all for that.
  • 03-08-2012 10:47 PM
    DepressedByHairLoss
    Yeah, I don't know that much about corticosteroids so I guess you're right on that one. But as mentioned in the article I linked, there are plenty of other steroids like glucosteroids that could possibly stimulate hair growth. I really wish doctors would try this. Also, I agree that Dr. Hitzig's method of PRP+Acell doesn't work well and the results look far from impressive. But I applaud him for at least trying something new and non-invasive and something other than hair transplantation.
  • 03-08-2012 10:53 PM
    clandestine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DepressedByHairLoss View Post
    Yeah, I don't know that much about corticosteroids so I guess you're right on that one. But as mentioned in the article I linked, there are plenty of other steroids like glucosteroids that could possibly stimulate hair growth. I really wish doctors would try this. Also, I agree that Dr. Hitzig's method of PRP+Acell doesn't work well and the results look far from impressive. But I applaud him for at least trying something new and non-invasive and something other than hair transplantation.

    Having listened to last week's TBT, apparently Dr Joseph F. Greco's PRP is better for some reason. Not sure on specifics, perhaps he is more invested in research regarding PRP, etc. But I heard his patients have yielded better results than Hitzig.
  • 03-08-2012 11:55 PM
    SilverSurfer
    Good Luck Ink
    Has anyone heard of Good Luck Ink? What do you guys think about these type of treatments, are they effective? Has someone had something similar done? please help
  • 03-17-2012 09:11 PM
    MG63
    I've had two PRP treatments with Dr. Greco and had very good results. At 48 years old. I was surprised how well the weak and nearly dormant hairs responded. I even had grafts from a previous transplant ( 2 years ago) pop up, which I thought were never going to take.
  • 03-18-2012 02:43 AM
    elvispresley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MG63 View Post
    I've had two PRP treatments with Dr. Greco and had very good results. At 48 years old. I was surprised how well the weak and nearly dormant hairs responded. I even had grafts from a previous transplant ( 2 years ago) pop up, which I thought were never going to take.

    hi MG, do u have some photos of your "very good results" ?
    it will be a great help for the community ;)
    thx a lot
  • 03-20-2012 04:28 PM
    MG63
    Will post in about a week.
  • 03-21-2012 06:11 PM
    sch89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MG63 View Post
    Will post in about a week.

    What was your experience with shedding after your first treatment? Did you shed more/less? I recently had a treatment done about a couple weeks ago, and can't say that I notice any difference either way.
  • 03-22-2012 07:53 PM
    MG63
    With the first treatment, had no shedding, existing hair grew fast, thick and was soft. New hair growth occurred on hairline and crown at 3 months. At 6 months had another treatment, had some shedding of hairs that that were about 1/2" in length, nothing longer. Since then my hair has thicken even more. Dr. Greco is really making progress with this procedure. His work in regenerative medicine outside of hair growth is outstanding.
  • 03-22-2012 08:43 PM
    elvispresley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MG63 View Post
    Will post in about a week.

    perfect , cannot wait.:)

    thx a lot
  • 03-25-2012 12:26 AM
    Pate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheNitwon View Post
    Corticosteroids suppress the immune system. Alopecia areata is an autoimmune disease where the immune system attacks the hair, and corticosteroids are used to stop this action. Male pattern baldness is caused by DHT, not the immune system, so corticosteroids wouldn't be effective at all for that.

    There's actually a line of thought that MPB is also caused by the immune system, just with DHT being the cause of the immune system beginning to attack its own follicles.

    That's the theory behind testing Astressin-B injections for MPB since it acts on cortisol. And AFAIK it's not fully understood how DHT binding to a receptor actually damages hair follicles. There has to be an intermediate step (or more than one) in there somewhere. An immune system response is one prime suspect.
  • 04-03-2012 06:35 AM
    hairquest
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elvispresley View Post
    perfect , cannot wait.:)

    thx a lot

    YES indeed!...
  • 04-08-2012 12:53 PM
    gutted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pate View Post
    There's actually a line of thought that MPB is also caused by the immune system, just with DHT being the cause of the immune system beginning to attack its own follicles.

    That's the theory behind testing Astressin-B injections for MPB since it acts on cortisol. And AFAIK it's not fully understood how DHT binding to a receptor actually damages hair follicles. There has to be an intermediate step (or more than one) in there somewhere. An immune system response is one prime suspect.

    people should have already realised mpb is an immune condition after the release of the study from dr cots...DHT causing minituarisation is one of the biggest myths of all time!
    Androgens are involved but NOT involved in minituarisation and follicular damage!

    Not only can baldness be stopped but it can also be reversed dependant on how badly damaged your follicles are!
  • 04-08-2012 02:25 PM
    2020
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    people should have already realised mpb is an immune condition after the release of the study from dr cots...DHT causing minituarisation is one of the biggest myths of all time!
    Androgens are involved but NOT involved in minituarisation and follicular damage!

    Not only can baldness be stopped but it can also be reversed dependant on how badly damaged your follicles are!

    ??? explain. Why don't castrates don't go bald then
  • 04-08-2012 02:37 PM
    gutted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    ??? explain. Why don't castrates don't go bald then

    i suggest you read a thread started by a poster named misterE on pathogenesis of MPB on HLH, it should help you understand certain similarities between baldness and other diseases and what they have in common...his theory is good but not perfect.

    also understand castrates dont go bald, because they still have andorgens in there system!
  • 04-08-2012 02:41 PM
    2020
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    i suggest you read a thread started by a poster named misterE on pathogenesis of MPB on HLH, it should help you understand certain similarities between baldness and other diseases and what they have in common...his theory is good but not perfect.

    also understand castrates dont go bald, because they still have andorgens in there system!

    ok then explain me this:

    how come every man from my mother's side started going bald at almost the exact same age as me?? You're saying they all had some underlying problems? Bullshit. Everyone got to live 80+ with NO health problems
  • 04-08-2012 02:45 PM
    gutted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    ok then explain me this:

    how come every man from my mother's side started going bald at almost the exact same age as me?? You're saying they all had some underlying problems? Bullshit. Everyone got to live 80+ with NO health problems

    underlying problems...its true, science just hasnt figured it out yet.
    Genetics also plays a role...but not in the way the majority of people think it does.
  • 04-08-2012 02:50 PM
    2020
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gutted View Post
    underlying problems...its true, science just hasnt figured it out yet.
    Genetics also plays a role...but not in the way the majority of people think it does.

    you didn't answer my question.... why did everyone go bald in my family even though otherwise they were pretty healthy people? Not enough vegetables and exercise? Not possible. Junk food was non-existent where they lived...
  • 04-08-2012 03:00 PM
    gutted
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    you didn't answer my question.... why did everyone go bald in my family even though otherwise they were pretty healthy people? Not enough vegetables and exercise? Not possible. Junk food was non-existent where they lived...


    They went bald due to excess androgens in a certain region of the scalp that are genetically predisposed to hypersensitivity, which can be influenced/aggrevated by the foods you eat.

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