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  • keepingmyhair
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 41

    Panicking over possible MPB

    Hi, I should of posted this new instead of replying to an old thread so..here it is.

    I'm 28,and have an appointment tomorrow with a dermatology NP (nurse practioner) where I will go into a nervous breakdown if she tells me I've got MPB.. (I feel like she will because she won't have a clue about any other options)

    I went back 3 generations on both mother and father's sides and everyone is dead...with full hair. I've always had thick hair that stylists constantly compliment about how thick and gorgeous it is and how lucky I am.

    Naturally, I took it for granted, as this past week, despite my hairline looking the same it always has as far as I can tell (always had the triangles in my temples since puberty) the crown of my head near my cowlick seems to either be thinning or just widening in general. Now that i'm obsessing over it I've noticed my whole head just appears sickly and not full and flowing like it used to be. My head has been itching and inflamed for six months but I've thought nothing of it until now (just figured it's dry..it's usually oily).

    I do NOT want propecia/endocrine drugs. I already take Valium (nervous system drug), Prilosec (gastric system), and Inderal (blood pressure) I can't handle another one that turns me impotent. I like sex.

    I've read of this stress related hair loss (TE) and I have pretty much been in non stop stress since December 2008. The past 2 months alone have included severe stomach flu/food poisoning and surgical routine endoscopy and colonoscopy with anaesthesia... Now I'm going to find out my crown is balding and will lose the only part of my body I have great self esteem for?!!

    Some say to go to endocrinologists because they can check all the hormone related stuff. I'M SO UPSET.

    EDIT: I went back and viewed a video of exactly a year ago that I could see the back top of my cowlick, and I can see the same spot was already there.. I don't know what to make of it. Either i've always had this..or i've been going downhill for years and couldn't tell until randomly happening to notice it in 2 mirrors after my shower the other day. I wish my scalp would also stop itching. I've done some research but I can't tell if it's a good or bad sign for MPB diagnoses if your scalp is itching with inflammation.

    I am vain, have an anxiety disorder and openly admit that I cannot handle losing my hair, I need it. I've included a photo, I'm going to find a bunch of random shots over the past 10 years that perhaps provide reference. I've always had the triangles I know that much, so I don't believe my hairline is receding.
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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1527

    #2
    Originally posted by keepingmyhair
    Valium (nervous system drug), Prilosec (gastric system), and Inderal (blood pressure)
    ... and you're only 28? Are you sure you need those??

    Anyways, I'm pretty sure you have MPB altough you should actually go to a hair transplant office and get a miniaturization study.... your hometown dermatologists won't know shit

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    • keepingmyhair
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 41

      #3
      Here's all photos from this past week. I look very sickly if you ask me. I'm also 80 lbs. overweight. Not good stuff. Next I'll post various photos from my past.
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      • keepingmyhair
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 41

        #4
        Here's late teens and one in mid 20's. Unfortunately, I haven't taken many pictures this past half decade as I gained weight and thus don't like the camera currently...
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        • Maradona
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 830

          #5
          don't panic

          do not panic my bro, im sure you've MPB but it looks like it's slow and you are in the early stages.

          you won't live your entire life as a bald being....we have many companies very close to the cure.

          check out replicel on youtube, at least, let it get you through these hard times.
          i believe you will benefit from their treatment the most.

          i might not...anyways....calm down.

          MPB isn't the end of the world.

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          • keepingmyhair
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 41

            #6
            Originally posted by 2020
            ... and you're only 28? Are you sure you need those??

            Anyways, I'm pretty sure you have MPB altough you should actually go to a hair transplant office and get a miniaturization study.... your hometown dermatologists won't know shit
            yep, 28 next month. Am I sure I need those? Nope. Until you've wrestled with anxiety/depression there's no way to explain or understand what it's like wrestling with the benzodiazepine family (Valium, Xanax, Klonapin etc.) ....they are in my opinion, one of the most dangerous class of drugs ever conceived. They've been prescribing them for me for anxiety since I was 19 years old, and it never should of happened but that's a really long story that may or may not be related to my sudden hair loss here in my late 20's. So you think I should cancel tomorrow and make an appointment with a hair transplant specialist? I've read good reviews about a good doctor near me

            http://www.drpizarro.com/ is her website, but I thought I should perhaps visit the derm office first? What do you all think though? It seems like my hair/body has been through the ringer, I honestly don't know why I'd have MPB though other than a really cruel toss % of the genetic dice. The gene would have to have been 200+ long years ago the last time it was expressed. I tend to have all recessive traits. Blue eyes etc. that only I have expressed for at least since a great uncle.

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            • HelpROGER
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 120

              #7
              Looks like the very begining stages of MPB. I would not freak out. You should ask about either Propecia or Rogaine. You can also just watch it for a few months to see if it gets worse. It is not too bad so try to relax. You found the best forum on the internet to get help.

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              • keepingmyhair
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 41

                #8
                Originally posted by HelpROGER
                Looks like the very begining stages of MPB. I would not freak out. You should ask about either Propecia or Rogaine. You can also just watch it for a few months to see if it gets worse. It is not too bad so try to relax. You found the best forum on the internet to get help.

                Thanks for the words of calm, i'm doing my best to not focus on this but it's not easy. It is amazing how much we actually tie our physical appearance to our daily functioning when we start losing it isn't it? My peter pan syndrome, superficially anyway, is going hard and strong. I don't know if it's narcissism or what, but stuff like this that you can't "cure" sends me over the cliff. Stretch marks, same thing but much much less intense horror than the experience i'm having right now at the thought of losing my defining hair.

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                • keepingmyhair
                  Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 41

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Maradona
                  do not panic my bro, im sure you've MPB but it looks like it's slow and you are in the early stages.

                  you won't live your entire life as a bald being....we have many companies very close to the cure.

                  check out replicel on youtube, at least, let it get you through these hard times.
                  i believe you will benefit from their treatment the most.

                  i might not...anyways....calm down.

                  MPB isn't the end of the world.
                  Maradona, I went and watched the replicel stuff..do you think this stuff will really happen ASAP? I'm schooled in psychology so I'm very much used to the concept of constant "advances" but never any "cures" just "remission" of a permanent problem. I hope that stuff is really all going to happen. We need to cure things, instead of always medicating with damaging side effects.

                  I'm trying to stay positive. I know we're all supposed to be kum-ba-ya about inner self love is what matters, but who are we kidding? Still, to get the first, second and 3rd dates...my hair has always been a highlight feature of me being cute/adorable/attractive/sexy or whatever adjectives i've been described as in my 28 years on this earth.

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                  • HelpROGER
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 120

                    #10
                    The best Dude to talk about this stuff is Spencer Kobren. I’m telling you I was going crazy until I found this site and his show. www.thebaldtruth.com. I think a lot of us hang out in the chat room on Sunday nights. You should call him, he really helps people get through it.

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #11
                      Hi keepingmyhair,

                      Don't panic. Your hair line is just the normal and natural adult male hair line. The crown is showing signs of thinning but you are catching it early enough that you would probably do fine with non-surgical treatment alone. It would be best for you to talk to a doctor who specializes in treating hair loss. Here is a link to help you find a good one.

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                      • keepingmyhair
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 41

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        Hi keepingmyhair,

                        Don't panic. Your hair line is just the normal and natural adult male hair line. The crown is showing signs of thinning but you are catching it early enough that you would probably do fine with non-surgical treatment alone. It would be best for you to talk to a doctor who specializes in treating hair loss. Here is a link to help you find a good one.

                        http://www.iahrs.org/hair-transplant/
                        Thanks for the link Tracy. All the doctors in Florida (where i'm at) are all very far away, but I'd be willing to drive there hastily if they are the best ones to go to. Do you have a recommendation for any specific one out of the 5 in Florida?

                        I was considering doing the free consultation with a Dr. Marina Pizzaro near where I live. http://www.drpizarro.com/ Do you think it'd be better to skip her and go to one of these derm from the iahrs?

                        When you say non-surgical treatment alone does that mean rogaine? I really, really, REALLY want to avoid having to alter my endocrine system with a 4th drug like propecia. I pretty much always end up with the side effects of all drugs, and after you've been on atypical antipsychotics off label... (for anxiety, not psychosis) you end up not wanting to ever touch another drug again. With my natural drug fear + the OCD anxiety about permanent effects from things like propecia i'll end up causing myself permanent impotence or never having a sex drive again. Scaring myself just thinking about it.

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                        • 8868alex
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Hi

                          If you live in Florida, you should contact either Dr Alan Bauman or Dr Glenn Charles - both will be able to assess and advise you correctly. At a glance, I would say that you have started to thin in the crown, but it is in the early stages and you do have options. I agree with the others, don't panic and seek out a quality doctor, you will feel better after doing this.

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                          • 25 going on 65
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1476

                            #14
                            Originally posted by keepingmyhair
                            When you say non-surgical treatment alone does that mean rogaine? I really, really, REALLY want to avoid having to alter my endocrine system with a 4th drug like propecia. I pretty much always end up with the side effects of all drugs, and after you've been on atypical antipsychotics off label... (for anxiety, not psychosis) you end up not wanting to ever touch another drug again. With my natural drug fear + the OCD anxiety about permanent effects from things like propecia i'll end up causing myself permanent impotence or never having a sex drive again. Scaring myself just thinking about it.
                            I'm going to be brutally honest. If you have male-pattern hair loss (it does seem you're in the early stages from your pictures, but a hair loss specialist could tell you for sure), and you're unwilling to take proven DHT suppressants like finasteride (aka Propecia), you won't be able to stop the process. Minoxidil (aka Rogaine) alone won't maintain your hair.

                            Which medications you use is up to you, of course. For what it's worth, the rate of side effects is quite low on finasteride, although I understand your reluctance to add another pill to your daily routine.
                            During a period of extreme stress and anxiety, a doctor put me on clonazepam for about 4-5 weeks (actually he suggested I take it longer but I quit on my own), so I have an idea of how intimidatingly powerful those drugs are. In my experience, finasteride is a very "light weight" medicine by comparison.

                            That said, I'm no physician, so talk to a doctor about your options. But I agree with others that there is no need to panic; you do have options. We are the first generation who really has the ability to effectively treat genetic hair loss. You'll be OK.

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                            • Tracy C
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3125

                              #15
                              Originally posted by keepingmyhair
                              Do you think it'd be better to skip her and go to one of these derm from the iahrs?(
                              I do not know anything about Dr. Marina Pizzaro, other than she is not an IAHRS member doctor. She may be an excellent doctor but IAHRS membership is pretty important and significant. The IAHRS is a patient advocacy organization. As such it is very difficult for a doctor to become an IAHRS member. IAHRS members are held to a much higher level of standards and ethics. Something for you to think about.

                              I do not know any of the IAHRS doctors in Florida. However Dr. Bauman and Dr. Charles seem like very nice people who truly enjoy doing what they do. That tells me a lot about them. They also seem reasonably and responsibly open minded, which is a major plus to me.



                              Originally posted by keepingmyhair
                              When you say non-surgical treatment alone does that mean rogaine?

                              That means Propecia (or generic Finasteride), Rogaine (or generic Minoxidil) and possibly Nizoral shampoo and low level laser therapy as adjunct treatments.

                              Finasteride is the most effective and most important because it blocks the hormone that triggers hereditary hair loss. Minoxidil stimulates re-growth but it can only do so much if you are unwilling or unable to take Finasteride.

                              I can only try to understand your concerns but I am unable to relate to them because they do not apply to me. I do know that these are the only medications that are proven to work. These are the only medications FDA approved for the treatment of hereditary hair loss. These are the medications that are most likely to help you. Currently there is nothing else that actually works. It is what it is. If you are unwilling or unable to use the medications that are most likely to help you, you need to learn how to come to terms with accepting that you are going to loose your hair – and find a way to live with it.

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