• 05-31-2013 01:46 AM
    thechamp
    Propecia and armidex letro prevent weight gain gyno
    Propecia and armidex and letro prevent weight gain gyno any body using these
  • 05-31-2013 07:07 AM
    Cob984
    hey buddy, im as frustrated as you are, nothing works to stop the weight for me on internal blockers, i think i am going the RU-CB route soon, give that a go,
    i think thats a better option than using something as powerful as Arimidex
  • 05-31-2013 07:40 AM
    Jcm800
    Cob whats the low down with that RU stuff? Im going round in fkn circles, too scared to try Fin one day, willing the next, dunno about Keretene, trx2 is total shit, msm vit c aint much better - i'm going around the bend here..
  • 05-31-2013 07:43 AM
    Cob984
    See hellousers thread,
    i order 2% bottle from mpb treatments, also gona order CB from Kane, hairloss ****ing sucks when you are androgen sensitive,
  • 05-31-2013 07:53 AM
    thechamp
    Cob
    Cob have you tried armidex? I'm going to ask my GP
  • 05-31-2013 08:25 AM
    clandestine
    Taking anti-estrogens to combat the side effects experienced on your anti-androgen.

    What is this I don't even..
  • 05-31-2013 07:06 PM
    thechamp
    Found this
    Basically have had puffed nips (when hot) for last 6 months...have been on propecia (fin) for 2 years.

    I had oestradiol and T checked 31/10/06 when i was on 0.625mg fin ED
    oest =160 (pmol/L) Normal Range = 50-220
    T = 20.9 (nmol/L) Normal Range = 10-50

    Then had them checked 26/4/07 after being on 0.25mg fin ED for 3 months
    oest =170 (pmol/L) Normal Range = 50-220
    T = 22.7 (nmol/L) Normal Range = 10-50

    Suprised me that both actually went up, although negligablly on the the lower ammount of fin.

    Not sure how the oest level "really" relates...i.e. is it aged based and someone my age (28) should actually be at the lower end of the scale. Really wish I'd had levels checked before starting fin 2 years ago!....everyone should do this!!!!!!!!

    Regardless, I have now been on Arimidex (0.5mg monday and friday) for a week and fin back up to 0.625mg ED, Mainly doing it to stop getting Gyno and increase libido.

    I subscribe to the theory that oest and T may not be true indicators of sides anyway. Simple fact that lowering DHT means that even "normal" levels of oest can cause sides.

    like to hear any comments on my E / T levels and from anyone that has had success stopping gyne with Arimidex (what dosage???) nobody seems to know that.
  • 05-31-2013 10:37 PM
    Californication
    If you're looking for the right dosage to get rid of gyno, search it on google, and find what body builders are saying, they know way more about how to cycle on and off of it correctly (you must cycle of off anti-estrogens properly, otherwise you can actually get a rebound effect).

    Let me know how this goes, I've considered taking an anti-estrogen now and again while on fin, at different intervals to perhaps keep the gyno at bay should I ever get on a lower dose of fin, but haven't yet done it because of well, the risks and I'm trying some other stuff for the moment.
  • 06-01-2013 01:48 AM
    thechamp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Californication View Post
    If you're looking for the right dosage to get rid of gyno, search it on google, and find what body builders are saying, they know way more about how to cycle on and off of it correctly (you must cycle of off anti-estrogens properly, otherwise you can actually get a rebound effect).

    Let me know how this goes, I've considered taking an anti-estrogen now and again while on fin, at different intervals to perhaps keep the gyno at bay should I ever get on a lower dose of fin, but haven't yet done it because of well, the risks and I'm trying some other stuff for the moment.

    What about the weight gain on fin would anti estrogen keep it at bay??
  • 06-01-2013 01:53 AM
    Jcm800
    Champ - is weight gain your main side effect on fin? No trouble with libido or anything? How long have you been taking it, how much as well?

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