This guy has been on thin ice for months. Definitely one of the more dependable workers in the office but he is NW5 with bad teeth. Female management usually acts like he is not in the room unless it is to correct/reprimand....he tries so hard sometimes to win them over that it is depressing. They just do not care for him
This is one of the biggest reasons I have been bringing up how appearance/hair matter even in your professional life. I knew this guy was at the bottom of the totem poll since I got there, even though he has been there longer & even though he works hard. In the meantime I hide my hair loss, do an ok job at work but tend to royally screw up like every 1-2 months....the main concern management has shown is that I would be too hard on myself
This sh*t happens at work places all over the world. The world is a sick sick place. At least he does not have family to take care of.
I will never ever go to work without my hair painstakingly styled. If they realize I have MPB I bet it would change their impression of me & I would be on the chopping block too. F*ck that. Somebody please cure this condition before it takes all our jobs for godsake
ok have a good day
09-04-2013 07:13 AM
baldozer
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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65
This guy has been on thin ice for months. Definitely one of the more dependable workers in the office but he is NW5 with bad teeth. Female management usually acts like he is not in the room unless it is to correct/reprimand....he tries so hard sometimes to win them over that it is depressing. They just do not care for him
This is one of the biggest reasons I have been bringing up how appearance/hair matter even in your professional life. I knew this guy was at the bottom of the totem poll since I got there, even though he has been there longer & even though he works hard. In the meantime I hide my hair loss, do an ok job at work but tend to royally screw up like every 1-2 months....the main concern management has shown is that I would be too hard on myself
This sh*t happens at work places all over the world. The world is a sick sick place. At least he does not have family to take care of.
I will never ever go to work without my hair painstakingly styled. If they realize I have MPB I bet it would change their impression of me & I would be on the chopping block too. F*ck that. Somebody please cure this condition before it takes all our jobs for godsake
ok have a good day
What kind of job is it?
09-04-2013 08:57 AM
Morbo
Aha, he got fired because he's bald. In a few years, when you lost yours, you'll undoubtedly be next.
I mean c'mon seriously.
I'm currently working for one of the top 10 employers in Belgium, top 30 in Europe and half the management is bald or balding, including my direct boss.
09-04-2013 09:11 AM
fred970
Where are you from 25?
I'm from Belgium too and I can't imagine that happening in my country.
09-04-2013 05:50 PM
25 going on 65
Well I was wrong, he still has his job. I was relying on inside info which usually is correct, but not this time.
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What kind of job is it?
White collar, office. NO face to face customer interaction. Most of us could look like shrek and it would make no difference to our job performance.
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Originally Posted by Morbo
Aha, he got fired because he's bald. In a few years, when you lost yours, you'll undoubtedly be next.
Maybe. I am on dut+fin+keto+supplements to try to prevent this.
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I'm currently working for one of the top 10 employers in Belgium, top 30 in Europe and half the management is bald or balding, including my direct boss.
It is different when you do not work directly under women. Bald guys like to hire other bald guys because they are nonthreatening. Unless it is the rare "goodlooking bald guy"....common bald guys can despise them even more than men with hair
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Where are you from 25?
I'm from Belgium too and I can't imagine that happening in my country.
USA
Women like to hire men they find attractive when they can. If you are goodlooking but 100% incompetent then ok, you will not be working there long (but will probably still get hired initially). However if you meet the bare minimum of performance & female management likes your look, you are golden
The only exceptions: lesbians, women over 60, & women who hate themselves so they do not want to be around attractive men (or women)
I am actually surprised he still has a job. Many different emotions....relief for him, but feeling bad because he works for people who treat him like a loser
In a way I appreciate him being there since I think it puts me on more of a pedestal. I realize this is selfish & wrong but I can not help feeling this way.
09-04-2013 07:39 PM
BigThinker
I work with way too many legitimately ugly people (with and without baldness), as well as people with Assburgers, to believe this at all.
09-04-2013 08:52 PM
25 going on 65
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Originally Posted by BigThinker
I work with way too many legitimately ugly people (with and without baldness), as well as people with Assburgers, to believe this at all.
Then your work place is probably run by men, or women who are old or lesbians or far below average in appearance, or else it is 100% populated by unattractive people (I doubt you are bad looking, going by some of your stories)
Also I was not exaggerating (except apparently about him getting fired, but I would bet almost anything he will not be here this time next year). We both know you can easily tell when someone is out of favor at work, it is so obvious it can get awkward.
Admittedly his social skills are kind of bad but you can tell he is seriously trying to be likeable/friendly & as far as I am concerned he is dependable. Yet our FEMALE GM and FEMALE service manager barely acknowledge him when they come through the office. Do you think things would be the same way if he was tall & looked like Brad Pitt? Srsly imagine that for a minute. F*ck no, of course things would not be the same
You recently graduated right? You will quickly see what I am talking about, keep an eye out for this kind of behavior. In fact this is exactly the job & exactly the guy that pulled the last wool away from my eyes. This is why I have been bringing up hair re: the work place (hair is obviously just 1 component but it does matter, period)
All the stuff about hard work we hear growing up....yes you have to meet a minimum standard. But unless you have started your own business, hard work is less than half the battle. Getting your boss to like you is by far more important, by far, and if yoru boss is a woman who finds you distasteful to look at then you are basically running the rat race w/ a peg leg
goodnight, have to wake up early to style my hair & pretend to not have MPB for yet another day. Really looking forward to "another 5 years" of this
09-04-2013 10:49 PM
ChrisM
You know that people can be dicks at work even bosses and fire you for plain politics that have nothing to do with appearances right ? Sure I have an example of a guy who had a full head of hair and a five o'clock shadow but wore rumpled clothes to work. But he made the mistake of mentioning what he made for a salary and a manager being paid nearly the same overheard and decided to check up on him through the VP of HR and from tapping the VP of Human Resources he found out the guy lied about his previous salary and that he graduated from the college that claimed to have on his resume. So the VP gave him a 24 hour ultimatum either present the W-2 tax form with the wages you claimed to have made in actuality he really made 20,000 dollars less that the amount he bandied about.. and for him to produce the transcript showing that he graduated from the University of Buffalo. He didn't and he was fired after six months of working there. His hair and appearance in the story didn't get him fired...his outright deception to his employers did.
I am bald black guy in good shape athletic build and I have been fired from some jobs after three to four months on probation and I have been at jobs for four years or more. My Norwood level which is improving by the Dut + Keto + Minox regimen and my exercise and body which I have only gotten better through discipline, exercise and portion control. My point baldness or the perception thereof did not get me axed more than likely it was either a) the perception of the delivery of my work did not meet with employer approval/standards or b) political hey I don't like that guy and his work is mediocre and doesn't stand out either way so let's get rid of him or c) the budget is running down and this is the new kid on the pole of seniority so chop him.
09-05-2013 12:18 AM
Notcoolanymore
I am not sure he is getting shitcanned because he is bald, but not being liked by the wrong people can be career suicide.
09-05-2013 02:04 AM
baldozer
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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65
This guy has been on thin ice for months. Definitely one of the more dependable workers in the office but he is NW5 with bad teeth. Female management usually acts like he is not in the room unless it is to correct/reprimand....he tries so hard sometimes to win them over that it is depressing. They just do not care for him
This is one of the biggest reasons I have been bringing up how appearance/hair matter even in your professional life. I knew this guy was at the bottom of the totem poll since I got there, even though he has been there longer & even though he works hard. In the meantime I hide my hair loss, do an ok job at work but tend to royally screw up like every 1-2 months....the main concern management has shown is that I would be too hard on myself
This sh*t happens at work places all over the world. The world is a sick sick place. At least he does not have family to take care of.
I will never ever go to work without my hair painstakingly styled. If they realize I have MPB I bet it would change their impression of me & I would be on the chopping block too. F*ck that. Somebody please cure this condition before it takes all our jobs for godsake
ok have a good day
The reason could be different than him looking not so good. In my previous job, one of the bosses deliberately promoted a person who was known to be a non-performer, and he always tried to bring good-performers down. The good performers also had good relations with their boss's boss, so were kind of a threat to him, as he knew that they could overtake his/her position one day. And it did happen with one such boss in our company, he was fired and one of his junior took over his position. Some bosses are selfish and put their interests above the company's interests.
