Don't Have Children

The thought of having children has bothered me for quite some time. Some people may think me extreme; indeed, I'm happy to admit I have a greater aversion to my baldness than most. However, I hate the idea of re-introducing my baldness gene into future generations.

As far as I'm concerned, having children might make me happy when they're young. However, the reality is that if I have a son I will have created a life that will be miserable from about the age of 19 until they die. If I have a daughter, I will have simply delayed the misery until I have a grandson.

I will not be bringing a happy being into the world. I'll be bringing in a life for my own enjoyment as a parent until they hit 19 where a life of misery awaits. Who would want to do that? I wish my parents had had this conversation before they had me.

Just think. Bring a son into the world. In 19 years time, he'll be staring in a mirror with nothing but a life of ridicule, discrimination and prejudice to look forward to.

The only cure against the curse of baldness is to refuse to pass it on.

WTF???

This is got to be the most ridicolous post i have ever read!!

Not everyone takes to baldness the way some of us forum readers do. Many people dnt care and lead happy lifes being bald

Put all that to one side, do you not think there will be a proper cure in 19 years. Most of us are expecting something in the next 5-10 years otherwise anyone who has had a procedure under the age of 30 like me is pretty much ****ed in the future

seriously mate, were you drunk when writing this post?

No, I've held this view for the seven years that I have been losing hair. Baldness is unattractive and thank god it is because it prevents me from passing on my crappy genes to another generation.

oh god!! how old are you mate?

also a lot of people think the mothers genes have a lot to do with deciding if your going to bald or not

so dnt you think they will have found a solution in the next 10 years?

Are you considering a hair transplant?

Sounds like a troll to me.

Calling someone a troll is not helpful or kind perhaps some empathy or positives support might be better.

I don't believe that this is a genuine person, that's what I meant.

Are you serious, first of all my dad has a full head of hair and is 68. I on the otherhand do not. I believe it has more to do with your moms side of the family so unless the young lady has a history of baldness on her side you should be okay. But honestly to say your bald and all your kids will be is a little dramatic.

I agree with the first poster. My life changed drastically at 19 for the worse and now at 45 the scars of baldness remain. I would never ever put a child on earth and have to face life as a bald man who is discriminated against, poked fun at and miserable. NO person is happy being bald and do not believe that it is no big deal. I have never felt the same since 1984 and most likely never will. I think every person who is bald is sick psychologically to some degree. Some worse than others. Baldness needs a cure not a pat on the back that it is no big deal. It is!

I really wish I was a troll but unfortunately I'm actually a 27 year old drugged up to the eyeballs on dutasteride and revivogen after 7 years of trying to keep my hair with limited success. I've also recently realised I must have been the unlucky one to get the crap gene; neither of my brothers are remotely bald yet.

Neither of my grandfathers lost any hair until they were in their 50s. No doubts where my hair loss comes from though; my grandma on my father's side. My mother's grandma comes from a family with no history of hair loss whatsoever for generations. Perhaps then the odds of me suffering androgenetic alopecia were small but the bastard gene still got through. There's also little difference between whether it comes from the father or the mother.

My father started losing hair at about the same age as me, as did his brother. The only hope I hold is that some thirty years later, he's probably only a Norwood V (with less lost on the crown than is typical) which at least means a transplant should be successful and long lasting. Then again, his brother is a definite VI going on VII. I get the impression that my father hates it; he has never shaved his head.

I think that for me to have children would be to allow the bastard gene to continue. I have the opportunity to kill it and if I can do nothing else to stop this horrible gene, I can at least make sure no one else has to deal with it. I am in a war with this gene and if I can't beat it, I'll sure as hell make sure it can't beat me either. It's a fight to the death and as long as I don't pass it on I'll win in the end, no matter how small the victory and no matter the cost.

I think it would be incredibly selfish of me to have a child. For all the pretence, baldness is disfiguring, ugly and leads to prejudice and discrimination. Quite why anyone would want to be responsible for creating a living being, when they already know before it is even conceived that it will have a second rate life, are highly likely to be depressed and will almost certainly suffer is beyond me. I find it morally reprehensible.

The statistics back me up. Anyone who tries to claim bald men can lead are happy life are lying. Bald men typically earn less, are more likely to be single and recent studies show 26% of balding men find it severely distressing and a further 60% find it moderately distressing. I believe the other 14% are just too embarrassed to admit the misery it is causing. Bald men will all experience mockery for their condition and will be excluded from careers in entertainment, politics and, to a lesser extent, business management.

I know from personal experience that the day I stopped getting taken seriously was when my hair loss started to show. I found hair loss quite easy to deal with at first; I've never really cared about my appearance and have no interest in fashion. It only really started to bother me when I realised I was being treated differently and being overlooked. We can kid ourselves that it isn't like that, but deep down we all know the truth.

I agree but you will find posters on this site that will tell you there are worse things. Yes but not psychologically. I am a survivor of testicular cancer and guess what-Baldness has affected me much more than the cancer. You die on the inside with baldness and do not recover. People will lie and say it does not matter-B.S. I used to see a shrink and he said baldness is no big deal but he had to appear in court for a juvenile one day and told me that he had to go home to dress up and use gel on his hair to make himself more credible to the jury. What a hypocrite. My hair did not matter but in court his did to be more creditable to the jury. If it were no big deal the hair industry would not be a multi-billion dollar industry. All of the treatments available are no real cure. They all have their disadvantages and none are guaranteed to give you a full head of hair. Some can help but you never get back what you once had. Only in rare cases will you have a "Miracle" So to speak. If there were a real cure people like Elton John and John Travolta would have it. They use wigs- Others use medications and others transplants. They all have disadvantages and there really is no real cure at this time. Until there is this will always be a struggle of the mind. Be happy you were never disfigured by a doctor as I was. I now can go out in public because I have had many, many corrective surgeries but still do not have what I truly want. I still look like I need more hair. This is the reality of baldness and I agree with you whole-heartedly. My scars will always remain as my entire youth was lost. Now I am getting gray hair as well. Gee life was so great. I now at 45 am glad I never had a child. My parents are dead now and they were so hurt by what this "baldness disease" did to my spirit. They always said you were never the same since 1984 (age 19) They were right. My mom even said I will always love you but seeing you like this I should not have had you. She was right and I miss her everyday but even if she could come back to life there would be nothing she could do. She saw me struggle with this for 18 years and I feel she died of a broken heart because of me. When a parent sees their child as unhappy as I was it does break their heart. You are right no kids is best for people like us.

Hey Guys,

This thread probably hits home with the vast majority of hair loss sufferers. Many years ago, when I began writing about my hair loss, I referred to my condition as a “disease of the spirit.”...I’ve also referred to it as a “cancer of the spirit.” The emotional toll it can take is profound, which is why it’s so easy for the hair loss industry to take take advantage of vulnerable men and women suffering with AGA and other hair loss conditions.

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Dear Spencer: I am sorry I missed the show. I had other pre engagements. Is there a way I can hear the show through this site? I hope to call in at some point. I am always doing something on the weekends but will definitely call in the next time on this topic. Thanks--geminidb.

It's not an easy decision to make, but it's certainly a good one. I can live with the smug satisfaction that whilst I may be a casualty of the war with my family's baldness gene, I will nonetheless also be victorious. It may win the battle of my scalp, but it'll be the last battle it ever fights because I'm stopping it dead in its tracks.

I think my mother is probably a bit diappointed that despite having four children of her own, she'll never have any grandchildren unless a cure for baldness is found (my older brother hates kids, my younger brother agrees with me and my sister can't have children). However, she will have to learn to live with that; it's better than living with baldness, as I have told her a few times! I think she's rather keen for a cure to be found now, hair loss is no longer something to just 'get over' in her book. Funny how people change about the subject when baldness affects their own interests, don't you think?

I don't think she really agrees with my methods though. I think a lot of people probably find me extreme. But most of them aren't bald and if they are they're putting their own happiness before their children's so they should be ashamed of themselves. I see my baldness as a disease in the same way as others view sickle cell anemia, phenylketonuria or HIV. It's unfair to have children because you know they'll suffer like you (probably more so, the world gets more image obsessed everyday - actually, I wouldn't be surprised if wigs became mandatory in my lifetime as the shaved head look is bound to go out of fashion sooner or later).

Of course, my attitude is that if everyone took my approach, we'd eradicate a lot of genetic disorders very quickly. Couples should stop being selfish and think long and hard about the sort of life their potential child is going to live. I have done and think the life my children will have will be awful.

Not only will they start balding very young and look 40 before they're 21, and suffer ageism before they're old, not only will they spend a life on pills and potions but they're also likely to develop type II diabetes by the age of 30 and are genetically pre-disposed to get brain cancer by 60. Hardly a recipe for a good life. Quite why my parents thought their genes were worth passing on is beyond me - I wonder whether they just forgot children grow up.

I agree again. Don't forget the constant depression that will accompany baldness. One will not feel right in public and avoid many, many occasions & situations. I used to just retreat to my bedroom and sleep for long periods of time in my early 20's. Dates were almost non-existent. I actually feel that I have existed and not lived. I am somewhat better now than in my 20's but not totally better. My own father hated his baldness- Norwood 7 + and started wearing a wig at 57 years of age until he died at 82. He was not young and it bothered him so people were not understanding then and even for the most part are not now. My family has finally realized that it will bother me forever. They now state that what bothered people 30 years ago still bothers them today. Psychologists even have agreed with me on this part. They tell me it is up to me on how to deal with it and not let it totally control me. I have been trying but will never feel as I once did prior to 1984. I will not keep writing on and on but there is a lot of sense to this thread- hopefully people will at least give it some serious thought.

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Dear Spencer: I am sorry I missed the show. I had other pre engagements. Is there a way I can hear the show through this site? I hope to call in at some point. I am always doing something on the weekends but will definitely call in the next time on this topic. Thanks--geminidb.

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Hey Gemini,

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I think I should probably say that my views only really apply to those who go bald young. Whilst distressing at any age, I think baldness would have been okay in my 40s. In my 20s though, it's been hell. It does steal your youth, because everyone assumes you're much older than you are. You become the old creepy guy at the trendy pubs and clubs, even though you're not old.

I think my worst experience though was when I was just beginning to lose my hair when I was just starting out in my career. I was subjected to watching management videos with some awful stereotypes. You know the sort of thing I mean, the ones in which all women are perfect professionals, most men are a bit slack and sleazy and the ultimate hero is a man with lots of hair and shiny white teeth.

In the ones we were made to watch, there was a manager with hair that President Kennedy would have been envious of; a go getting young man with slick gelled hair who was uber professional; the token brilliant woman which no real organisation ever employs and, oh, the difficult, fat, useless one. He was bald, of course.

Indeed, in most management training videos, there's a bald baddie. Professional firms are indoctrinated with the view that no hair = useless employee.

I'm not putting people on this earth to be taught crap like that.

i feel sorry for people like you who put so much stock in something like a 'management training video'. i mean seriously come on man. yeah hairloss sucks but there are much worse things in the world. most of my friends dads are bald and they still have all their hair while my dad is a nw1 and im losing and im almost 26, should they not have had childern? your life is going to be a very shallow and lonely life if u keep placing this much stock into what others may or may not think. if u are so concerned about being bald, get a ht or buy a hair system.

it just depresses me to read threads like this and see there are people with this kind of attitude when life is all about overcoming challenges and obstacles. if u think u can't get a promotion or get a good looking gf, then u are working at the wrong place or dating the wrong girls. i understand the self pity but posting on a message board telling everyone u wont have kids b/c they might have to deal with hairloss, when most of the male population will have to at some point in their lives, seems absurd.

I look forward to getting a ht. I think I will go for an ht and replacement system combo. Thick at the front, with a hair system to cover the back. Is that possible?

Well attitude is everything. That said I still am not having any children and putting them through this. Every person is different. Some even lie to themselves and state that things are not that bad. This is what gets them through life but you know what the plain truth is no person wants to be bald. Every procedure that is available is not guaranteed. That said I am glad that I have been mostly corrected and have some hair. Having said this I am happier having some hair imagine how happy I would be with a full head of hair. NO person can tell me differently. One must go on but I have lived a living hell with bad transplants, scarring and just some hair. It truly has made me decide never, ever to have a child. I am 45 in june and feel the same way I did 30 years ago. If people want to be selfish and lie to themselves that is thier perogitive.

Well said. The only available cure for baldness is the same as HIV. Don't spread it around.

I would like to expand on this too. When you go bald, you earn the right to be selfish. It's yin and yan. You've had a crap break, so you're entitled to be number one.

Do you really want to commit your whole life to children, especially if they go bald and blame you for it later anyway?

I think that this thread is a feeling that every person who has experienced hair loss goes through. People must repect everyones opinion. One cannot change my feelings as I cannot change theirs. It is best to do what is right for yourself-That is my whole point in this blog. I just know I have had something taken from me and have never ever felt the same since. That is why I would not pass this on to anyone else- Sort of the "Do unto others as you would want done to you"-- Without getting too religious.

If bald people like us spread our genes, then baldness will become increasingly common. It'll mostly be spread further by daughters of people with our condition (carriers if you like) marrying into families without the baldness gene. Some bald men will spread the gene too but let's be honest, most women of child rearing age hate baldness. Baldness has increased generation by generation because of the spread of genes - it's got nothing to do with environment. Also, it seems to be a gene that hits each generation younger. I expect any kids I have to be balding by 15 or 16 - that is way too young.

this is the dumbest thread i have read in a long time. but im glad u two have no self esteem and can pat each other on the back.

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this is the dumbest thread i have read in a long time. but im glad u two have no self esteem and can pat each other on the back.

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lol it's very sad to see their lives revolve around having or not having hair....this long after they first started losing it.

Yes I am more honest than most people you two can go on telling yourselves how great it is to be bald and lie and lie to yourselves. Now go look in the mirror and fall in love with that image. Honesty in life is a true virtue. Bald is great and that is why it is a multi million dollar industry trying to cure it . You are laughable. I am honest.:p

There is an element of truth in that we do need to get on with our lives. People with far greater afflictions do, which would make us pathetic if we did not. However, that doesn't mean we should create another generation that has to 'make do' at the bottom of the pile.

Nor should we have to pretend we enjoy life. Over the past few years, since losing some of my hair, I've got a good job and a lot of professional qualifications. I have a stable relationship and I'm financially secure. However, I get no pleasure or satisfaction from any of it, because it wasn't the life I wanted. The life path I wanted to follow is restricted to people with good hair. Let's just say I did two things at school and university; acting and politics.

The fact is no matter what I do, however much I succeed, I'll get no pleasure from it because I'm only allowed to fulfil someone else's dream, not my own which is restricted to the hirsute. Why did I start taking dutasteride again a month ago, some 2 years after thinking I'd finally accepted my hair loss? Simple; I passed some more professional qualifications and got zero satisfaction from doing so. The pass rates of these exams are so low others dance in fountains when they pass; I couldn't give a damn.

Hair loss took the edge off life. It's okay, not great, just average. It made me average and it ruined my ambitions, that's why I'll never pass the gene on.

By all means go off and shave your head, pump iron, eat healthily. The rest of your life has been ruined, you might as well sacrifice your recreational time to your hair loss too if that's your thing. But don't try and convince yourself you look good. At best you look average; in all likelihood, you look old and ill. And if that's not enough, all the bald men I know who grow to 'accept' it are the sort of people who lacked ambition in the first place.

Fixed by 35,


Your logic is completely flawed. I am 20 years old and my hair is starting to get thinner.

I am very sure that I can both prevent and improve my hair. There are good options available today. If you take propecia, use rogaine and the lasercomb and so forth I am very sure some results will happen. To me these options will suffice. I am also willing to get a hair transplant. All of these options are enough.



I am 100% sure that in the future there will be extremely good solutions to these problems. I am talking in OUR lifetime something WILL happen that makes it much, much easier to keep all your hair, not even talking about your kids.


Don't be so negative. Things can be done about this.



I agree, pumping iron and trying to solve it that way and shaving your head thats bullshit I agree. That is totally retarded and NOT THE PERSON I WANT TO BE. I just want my damn hair back to what it was when I was 16-17. I will do whatever it takes.

I believe that if you start early, there is a lot of hope. So that is why I will try everything, if everything does a little, together it will be sufficient. Will be really expensive though, but whatever it's definitely worth it.

I used to think like you when I was 20 but I'm afraid the prognosis is not as good as you would like.

1) Drugs don't stop hair loss, they slow it down. They're worth taking for that reason, but you'll still be balder year on year.

2) Rogaine is pretty much useless and doesn't regrow the hair line.

3) Hair cloning and other techniques currently in production were as near to completion about 20 years ago as they are now. The longer you lose you hair, the more you'll get used to the 'cure' cycle. For example, when I started losing my hair in 2003, hair multiplication was 'up to' five years away. It is now, ahem, five years away. It's just a ruse to gain funding.

4) The deadline for a solution to make you happy is shorter than you seem to think. For example, irrespective of whether they develop a new cure tomorrow, I still lost my youth. If they develop it in the next 5 years, I've still lost the rest of my 20s. If they develop it in 10 years, I'll be middle aged by then and half my friends will be bald and it will be much less important.

I'll still take the cure when it's available, but it's getting to the point now that all of the best years of my life will have been spent looking like a freak. People will obviously say just get over it and stop wasting your life, but they're the ones who have gotten it wrong. When you've already dedicated yourself to fight the curse, it's very hard to just give up. To both lose your youth and now give up and become resigned to a look that makes you want to vomit every time you look in the mirror is just too big an ask.

eh, I hope the stuff works better for me....


Why have you not gotten a hair transplant? Those are really good. The results are amazing. So propecia + hair transplant would be a cure, would it not?

Hair transplants on Norwood VI and Norwood VII people look like comb overs. As I have no idea how extensive my hair loss will be, it's a risk that is perhaps not worth taking. Not just yet anyway.

What stage are you currently in?


Just do it geez. I dont know why you wont do it... It will give you more hair, spread out well. so even if you do lose more hair ...you will just have more hair because of the transplant. You putting it off is not a good idea. You can always get a second transplant.

You have more donor hair than you think also. It doesn't take a thick head of hair to actually LOOK that thick. Thats why hairtransplants with 2500 follicles make such a huge visual difference.

Just do it...

The brunette human head tends to have something in the region of 50,000 more hairs than blonde ones and baldness is far more pronounced early on because of the contrast. It's not a great combination to start with.

To have a full head of hair on top, I think you need something in the region of 100,000 hairs. A full appearance is possible with half that, about 50,000 hairs. If you're going to be a Norwood VI, at best you'll probably be able to get 10,000 grafts totalling up to 30,000 hairs, about 20,000 short of the 50,000 for a full appearance.

Have you seen the transplant results of the Norwood VI and VIIs? They look terrible.

I think you misunderstand completely and your very quick to be negative about things.


First of all. Blonds have thinner hair than brunettes. That is why BLONDS actually have MORE hair than brunettes. That is why brunettes do better in hair transplants, especially if you are still under 35 with good, thick hair.

You have it the other way around.

Also, it only takes about 1500-3000 hair to make a really big difference, and I mean big.


This is 2700 grafts I found on a website:





thats a huge difference and it is common. If you really need more than that then get more than that. But what you fail to understand is it is highly succesful in making you look better. It wont look like a comb over... it will make your hair denser overall. The top of the head is a smaller spot than the sides. 2000 hairs make a big difference, especially if grown to a decent length.

together with propecia, rogaine and the hair comb...there really is hope for people balding.


I recommend you get a hair transplant. You should have a lot of donor hair at the age of 27, especially if you have been on medicine that reduces hairloss.




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OK so it seems linking to images aren't allowed on this website. Go to google and just search hair transplants before and after pictures. Find some pictures that show 2000-3000 hairs transplanted and you will be amazed at the difference. DO NOT look at people that are over their 40's because they tend to have really thin hair. Also don't look at blonds because they also have much thinner hair.

I agree that everyone must get one with ones life. Hair transplants can be a very positive but no doctor will give you a guarantee. I went to Dr. Woods for corrective surgery and he has been the best so far. You do not sign a legal disclosure as you do here in other clinics. That legal disclosure signs all of your rights away legally. He has tried to get other doctors to follow this and he is not well liked in the medical community. But you know what I have had a huge transformation with him (still undergoing surgery) I had very very little donor hair and was forced to use beard and body hair. The beard hair has saved me. The body hair is ok for the frontal hairline but not for bulk. I have no scarring at all. I do have less of a beard and want him to take out the remaining donor (beard) so that I have even less there and more on the mid scalp. I most likely will go back this summer for my last surgery. I last went in January of this year. I really am happy I chose him- Some others do not like him. All doctors have patients that are happy and not. Do not believe that every doctor has the brochure -picture perfect transplants either. They choose the best ones of course for sales. It is a crime however that the medical community let what happened to me and others in the 1980's and 1990's. Even today there are many bad results but it is a hidden community. Many doctors will not expose each other as they take on that oath to each other. One must be careful. Spencer gives good advice. I know that DR. Woods is not on the list but for me is the only Dr. I trust. That is not to say that the list here is not good. I only know the Bosleys, MHR(Matt leavitt worked on me- terrible) NUHart & Brandy(The ones who really screwed me over) should have their licenses revoked. Dr Shelly friedman did some decent work on me but it was strip and I am against strip because no doctor can guarantee that the scar will not stretch. I have even seen tricho-closures stretch. Dr. Woods did tell me that I could have white dots on the area where the beard was extracted so I tried a small surgery and had no problems. I have had over 3500 beard hairs extracted and no white dots. The only way I can tell is if I really zoom in a picture but it only looks like I once had acne. No one in real life ever gives me any stares at all. My hair is not showroom -brochure-sales quality at least not yet. It may never be because of all of the damage I endured. I will say that friends, family and myself feel that I have been improved by 75 to 80%. I am hoping that my last surgery puts me over the top and I think from my growth so far it will. But remember baldness does steal much of your youth and that is something that I will never have again. That said I am glad I removed my wig and had the surgery with Dr. Woods. Perhaps one day I will Drive to Los Angeles (not far from my hometown) and meet spencer to show him my results in person. I always recommend seeing a transplant in person- Photos and videos are second best IMO. Good luck to all.

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There is an element of truth in that we do need to get on with our lives. People with far greater afflictions do, which would make us pathetic if we did not. However, that doesn't mean we should create another generation that has to 'make do' at the bottom of the pile.

Nor should we have to pretend we enjoy life. Over the past few years, since losing some of my hair, I've got a good job and a lot of professional qualifications. I have a stable relationship and I'm financially secure. However, I get no pleasure or satisfaction from any of it, because it wasn't the life I wanted. The life path I wanted to follow is restricted to people with good hair. Let's just say I did two things at school and university; acting and politics.

The fact is no matter what I do, however much I succeed, I'll get no pleasure from it because I'm only allowed to fulfil someone else's dream, not my own which is restricted to the hirsute. Why did I start taking dutasteride again a month ago, some 2 years after thinking I'd finally accepted my hair loss? Simple; I passed some more professional qualifications and got zero satisfaction from doing so. The pass rates of these exams are so low others dance in fountains when they pass; I couldn't give a damn.

Hair loss took the edge off life. It's okay, not great, just average. It made me average and it ruined my ambitions, that's why I'll never pass the gene on.

By all means go off and shave your head, pump iron, eat healthily. The rest of your life has been ruined, you might as well sacrifice your recreational time to your hair loss too if that's your thing. But don't try and convince yourself you look good. At best you look average; in all likelihood, you look old and ill. And if that's not enough, all the bald men I know who grow to 'accept' it are the sort of people who lacked ambition in the first place.

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LMAO...no one is saying hair loss looks good. But your attitude on this is unbelievable. To borrow a line from dumb and dumber, you are sounding like 'one pathetic loser.' Listen, no is trying to minimize the effects of hair loss or saying people who are bald look great. But we arent lying to ourselves either when we realize there is more to life than just hair, and thats not pretending life is great either, just that our lives dont revolve around hair or no hair. If you cannot realize that, which you seemingly cannot, then why not just kill yourself right now.

The fact is most of the male population will experience hair loss at some point in time. To get on here and say meds and ht's dont work is a flat out lie. They have worked great for many. If you dont want to have kids then by all means dont, you dont seem like you would be a positive role model anyway, and I doubt you could teach anyone to god forbid overcome an obstacle in their lives. Its sad when someone like yourself places so much value on something like hair that they cannot live without it when there are millions of people doing just that. Do they want more hair if you ask them, I'm certain they would say yes, but I bet very few of them would have your terrible attitude.

I got news for you, life doesnt always go the way you want it to. But are you going to sit around wallowing in self pity or actually try and live a life to its fullest on the small amount of time you have in this world? People are dying of hunger, war diseases, ect. everyday. People are going thru divorces, job loss, financial problems, ect. And here you are 40 yrs after the fact still not appreciating life the way you should b/c of hair. Go buy a system or get a transplant if it bothers you this much but dont start ridiculous threads and expect people to agree with an attitude like this, and dont typecast all bald people as one ones with no ambition. If you want to see someone like that, look in the mirror.

One more thing, dont tell me the rest of my life has been ruined. It hasn't at all. Your has though, because you have gone thru all of it with a piss poor outlook who gets no satisfaction out of anything but having hair. Fortunately, that will never be me.

Wow- The bitterness is prevelant is some of these posts. Yes life is great- Being bald is great. I am so happy. I have had testicular cancer, chemo and now have an implant of saline. That was a piece of cake compared to being bald. I am so happy. Well if this is what you want to hear so be it but you are fooling yourself. I agree one must go on but you know what in the end baldness will always be a huge problem. The sooner one admits to it and does something about it the better. One must go on but to say it does not leave permanent scars is BS!! Most of these tough machos know nothing. Being blind is great, in a wheelchair great- Deaf great. What a bunch of total mind controlling BS. Bald is ugly, disfiguring and again - NO Child for me. Go ahead now and look at that mirror and lie to yourself and have 30 kids. When they complain tell them to get over it and many, many can't. Have you ever had chemo, a Fake testicle? I have and you know what Baldness is 1000000000000000000X Worse. So do not speak when you have no experience in life as I have. Everyone must deal with the cards they are given- Another reason I will never have a child. A truthful attitude beats a lie any day. Now get your positive attitude and go on in life as I do but I will not succomb to such B.S. Wait till the day when Baldness has a cure and how many men will come out and say how miserable they were. Then the truth will be heard. Remember there is such a thing as Samson & Delilah - I am proof losing hair is losing strength, looks and everything else. Dispute that!! But you will never ever change me or millions like myself- Go ahead and try.

nah, not going to try, b/c you obviously didnt read/understand my post. and am not going to try and respond to anymore of the nonsense you two post. instead, i will let u both continue to wallow in self pity and live a life that is unfulfilled.

like i have said a million times, losing hair sucks, but you need to keep it in perspective.

The trouble with baldness is that whilst it is just a cosmetic problem, so are a lot of other afflictions but they get support rather than mockery. It's acceptable in today's society to have all sorts of cosmetic surgery, but men who want to treat their baldness just to look normal tend to get mocked whilst men who want their teeth straightened or their nose moulded don't.

You can try to go to the doctor's with body dysmorphia. If you have comically ridiculous ears or saggy breasts, he refers you to a specialist. If it's hair loss, he laughs at you and prescribes a bit of valium. Mine prescribed prozac, the idiot.

That's the problem with baldness. You can't go to a friend or a family member and tell them how you really feel because they laugh at you and tell you to get over it, unlike all other medical conditions. You can't openly say you want to do something about it, because you're meant to just shave and hate your appointed image for the rest of your life. Someone always mentions that meat headed idiot Vin Diesel, who by the way still has some sort of hair line. That's why some men find it worse to lose their hair than to get serious illnesses - certainly my ruptured gallbladder was a lot less stressful than my hair loss, because I had support when I was ill.

I lost a lot of friends when I started to lose hair because I was not prepared to live the rest of my life being mocked for something I could not control. You might even say I have high rather than low confidence; I do not think I deserve to be called a slap head by someone who has never had to deal with a real problem in their lives. I've got far better things to do with my time. That's how hair loss ruined my life - it alienated me from my 'friends.'

So by all means go pump some iron, shave your head so it shines in the sun then go and have a good laugh at your own expense at how ugly you are with your 'friends.' If you're happy being the low brow comic relief in your circle of friends for the rest of your life, you do that.

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So by all means go pump some iron, shave your head so it shines in the sun then go and have a good laugh at your own expense at how ugly you are with your 'friends.' If you're happy being the low brow comic relief in your circle of friends for the rest of your life, you do that.

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Again, you have no sense of reality. I still have most of my hair. I am taking proscar, planning on getting prp this summer, and will get a ht when i decide the time is right. I have pretty thick hair and above average donor density. However, if you think my friends laugh at the bald guy you are wrong. There are several balding friends in my group, some pretty bad, and no one has ever made fun of them for it, nor have they been 'comic relief' for being ugly. In fact they still get plenty of girls b/c unlike u they dont let it take over their lives and have still have a great personality. Apparently you think b/c your friends treated u poor, all others must do the same, which is not true obviously.

You somehow think the only solution to going bald is to 'shave your head, pump iron and get a tan.' again, lmao. your attitude is so bad i just cannot stomach anymore of this. just b/c your life sucks, dont try and make it seem like all others will too, b/c im living proof you're wrong.