• 10-01-2014 06:03 AM
    caddarik79
    any news of Gaz after 5th HST?
    Hello Gaz, if you read me, any update or impression?

    I am considering going for another big session and buy me another 3 to 4 years peace of mind.
    My first HST framed me back and the result is still there after a bit more that two years.
  • 10-30-2014 03:59 AM
    caddarik79
    UP

    Gaz, any update? how does your hair look now?
    Do you feel thicker? fuller? OK under spotlights and day light?
  • 10-30-2014 06:34 AM
    Munkynutz
    I am contemplating HST myself. How full did you find your transplanted hair grew? Some results seem vastly superior to others and am not quite certain what to ask for. I am looking for a conservative hairline (mine has always been high) but mainly just to widen the widows peak to a more appealing level.

    Right now I can get away with slightly longer hair without it looking strange but would very much like enough of a hairline to have a buzz cut of a short length.
  • 10-30-2014 06:34 AM
    Munkynutz
    I too am curious if a Gaz update though but he hasn't been here for a while now and I'd love to see the results of the last procedure.
  • 11-21-2014 08:49 AM
    c5000
    I'd also love an update Gaz.

    Your case is the closest thing we have to a cure via HST. :)

    I'm going back for my 3rd procedure in two weeks time and I can't wait. This procedure in my opinion will give me some much needed density.
  • 11-22-2014 08:47 AM
    caddarik79
    Me too, and I also, unfortunately, think that HST is the only treatment so far that can bring a fair bridging until an actual cure pops up!!! at high costs...

    That's why, Gaz, if you can read us, and let us see your amazing improvements?

    Thank you.
  • 11-27-2014 07:35 AM
    cocacola
    Cant wait to see an update as well.

    @c5000
    Did you post any pictures after your second procedure?

    Keep us in the loop guys!
  • 11-28-2014 03:52 AM
    caddarik79
    it's weird , no more news from Gaz and no more news from Arashi.

    Gaz result must be awesome!!! what happend to you guyzzz?
  • 11-29-2014 04:33 PM
    gc83uk
    sorry guys, kinda of got a bit tired of the whole anti-hasci, whether it's right or wrong I just lost interest in arguing about it.

    My result up to now is decent. I still need to increase density in the recipient, which I may do! I only had 1200 HST on my last procedure, so it was never going to make a significant difference from where I was before this, however I can personally tell the difference and couldn't be happier with it.

    Donor looks pretty much the same as it did after my 4th HST.

    How are you guys getting on, any plans?
  • 11-29-2014 09:28 PM
    cocacola
    Doing great, planning a second procedure somewhere next year. The fx rates are not in my favour right now so i am waiting a bit.

    Gc do you think you will post some pics anytime soon? If you dont have time at the moment, would be really cool if you can post an update when you hit the 8-10 month mark post-op.

    Also, i know it may be the wrong place to ask the question. Any of you ever asked hasci about body hair transplants? I surprisingly have very straight chest hair, i have wondered if i want to maximize amount of hair that i can put on my head in the long run, is it possible to have some chest hair transplanted with hst. To make it more natural, implant it in a lets say 1:5 ratio. Its 16% more and i don't think it would be a material visual difference, giving its pretty straight and similar color.
  • 11-30-2014 03:42 AM
    caddarik79
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gc83uk View Post
    sorry guys, kinda of got a bit tired of the whole anti-hasci, whether it's right or wrong I just lost interest in arguing about it.

    My result up to now is decent. I still need to increase density in the recipient, which I may do! I only had 1200 HST on my last procedure, so it was never going to make a significant difference from where I was before this, however I can personally tell the difference and couldn't be happier with it.

    Donor looks pretty much the same as it did after my 4th HST.

    How are you guys getting on, any plans?

    Hey Gaz, I got you on the fact that you were tired about the neverending argument on HASCI, it became ridiculous and so much repetition!!!

    I just bought a car, and booked an exotic trip, so if i go, it's more for next year!
    Your result will even get better in another three months, if i am correct with the full result timeline.

    Am more and more convinced it is the only (even if super expensive) way to bridge and an acceptable hair situation until a cure comes out.

    Pictures would be nice but if you don't have time for it right now, not a problem.
    what about iron man and Arashi?
  • 11-30-2014 11:30 AM
    Pentarou
    Arashi!! Come back here now, I order you!
  • 12-02-2014 04:56 AM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pentarou View Post
    Arashi!! Come back here now, I order you!

    LOL :) How are you guys doing ? I still visit the forums now and then but I lost interest. I realize we're still years away from a cure so what's the point of being here every day. Besides I've proven (far) beyond reasonable doubt that HASCI is a scam with things like this: http://www.hasci-exposed.com/partial.html. Some people will always believe, no matter what proof you show them, cause they just don't want to accept the harsh reality that we have nothing more than 2 scary meds with tons of potential side effects and prefer to live a dream. A dream where some shady doctors have cured hairloss but don't care to show the proof.
  • 12-02-2014 12:56 PM
    gc83uk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    LOL :) How are you guys doing ? I still visit the forums now and then but I lost interest. I realize we're still years away from a cure so what's the point of being here every day. Besides I've proven (far) beyond reasonable doubt that HASCI is a scam with things like this: http://www.hasci-exposed.com/partial.html. Some people will always believe, no matter what proof you show them, cause they just don't want to accept the harsh reality that we have nothing more than 2 scary meds with tons of potential side effects and prefer to live a dream. A dream where some shady doctors have cured hairloss but don't care to show the proof.

    I think you have actually proven about as much as HASCI have proven :)

    You haven't been able to prove that there is no net growth as far as I can see. Neither has Hasci proved so, which of course is disappointing.

    It's also misleading to say 'Hasci is a scam'. There is some things which simply don't add up with Hasci's claims, however there are some elements of their procedure which they claim and they are true, so to simply say they are a scam is just wrong.

    Like I've said before I think there is a small net growth of hair in HASCI, nowhere near their claims, but nevertheless superior to FUE which is probably closer to -20% net loss of hair.
  • 12-02-2014 06:00 PM
    Pentarou
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    LOL :) How are you guys doing ? I still visit the forums now and then but I lost interest. I realize we're still years away from a cure so what's the point of being here every day.

    FWIW, I feel very jaded and worn-down too. About most things hair loss related. About 3 years ago, it looked like we were on the brink of exciting developments (not an actual cure, but a sign that we weren't that far away from new treatments). 2 years ago, well, we had that study to do with Prostaglandins and their role in hair loss, which looked like it could lead somewhere. Even a year ago, there were things to grab our attention, with some of the new stuff like the mass dermarolling experiment, the brief burst of excitement around Pilox when the photos leaked… Now, it looks like the pipeline is empty, everything's a bust, the next best hope of a regular treatment, CB-03-01, looks like a load of empty hype, if it ever reaches the stage of being a viable product. It all feels so bloody bleak at the moment, really, we don't seem to be nearer an actual new type of treatment than we were in 2001.
  • 12-02-2014 07:56 PM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gc83uk View Post
    You haven't been able to prove that there is no net growth as far as I can see.

    I have proven that they sell nonsense. They explain in their thesis how they supposedly regenerate hair: they claim to do so by leaving part of the follicle behind that can regenerate itself using stem cells. Yet the photo's clearly show that that's untrue: the WHOLE follicle is taken away. So if no tissue is left behind (like they claim in their thesis), there's nothing that can regenerate. Really, it's simple as that.

    Quote:

    It's also misleading to say 'Hasci is a scam'.
    I don't think there's a word more fitting for selling something for a lot of money that doesn't work.
  • 12-02-2014 07:57 PM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pentarou View Post
    It all feels so bloody bleak at the moment, really, we don't seem to be nearer an actual new type of treatment than we were in 2001.

    Yes that's exactly what I feel... Two years ago we had so many things to look out to... Now there's pretty much nothing.
  • 12-03-2014 06:09 AM
    caddarik79
    @ Gaz, how many more procedures do you think you will undergo?
    and did they tell you how many maximum you could do without affecting your donor ?

    Am really curious about your result.
    If you do one more soon, where would you put the grafts?
  • 12-03-2014 10:59 AM
    FearTheLoss
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arashi View Post
    Yes that's exactly what I feel... Two years ago we had so many things to look out to... Now there's pretty much nothing.


    I'm 100% sure we are going to see regeneration from pilofocus. The science is behind it. Dr. Gardner confirmed that what he's doing should work. Furthermore, there are studies done that show it works to some degree and acell should increase the percent regenerating. Dr. Cole has said the reason he isn't able to get consistent regeneration from acell is because it leaks, if he had a way to prevent it from leaking he'd get it all the time to some highly beneficial degree. Therefore, with Dr. Wesley administering it underneath the skin, there won't be any leaking. Hence, consistent donor regeneration will follow.
  • 12-03-2014 07:20 PM
    joachim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FearTheLoss View Post
    I'm 100% sure we are going to see regeneration from pilofocus. The science is behind it. Dr. Gardner confirmed that what he's doing should work. Furthermore, there are studies done that show it works to some degree and acell should increase the percent regenerating. Dr. Cole has said the reason he isn't able to get consistent regeneration from acell is because it leaks, if he had a way to prevent it from leaking he'd get it all the time to some highly beneficial degree. Therefore, with Dr. Wesley administering it underneath the skin, there won't be any leaking. Hence, consistent donor regeneration will follow.

    i don't buy the leakage part. today there are compounds to seal wounds instantly. for example some gel-like substance which could be used to seal the wounds after inserting the acell into the donor extraction sites. also why not just wrap the head into foil for 2 or 3 days so that acell can do its magic.
    it can't be that difficult.
  • 01-26-2015 12:19 PM
    c5000
    Hey Gaz.

    How are things?

    How long has it been now since your last procedure? 5 or 6 months?

    Do you think you'll go back?
  • 03-24-2015 09:30 AM
    caddarik79
    hey Gaz, any update? how is your "full of hair" life?
  • 04-02-2015 12:42 PM
    cocacola
    Its around 7-8 months since the last i believe. It would be a good moment to give an update. If you still read this board gc let us know please!
  • 04-03-2015 02:52 AM
    caddarik79
    Hey Gaz if you read me but just don't want to participate in this forum anymore because of all the HST bashing etc

    my email is my name here: caddarik79 and hotmail.com with the @ in the middle :)
  • 04-03-2015 07:47 AM
    c5000
    Has anyone heard from Gaz or IronMan lately?

    Gaz has gone quiet, hopefully he is just so happy with married life and his hair that he doesn't even come on here any more.

    What about IronMan, I asked him in another post if he had been for his 3rd procedure yet, but heard nothing back. Strange that we aren't hearing anything back from him either. Anybody heard from him?

    IronMan always seemed so positive about Hasci...
  • 04-03-2015 09:05 AM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by c5000 View Post
    Has anyone heard from Gaz or IronMan lately?

    Gaz has gone quiet, hopefully he is just so happy with married life and his hair that he doesn't even come on here any more.

    What about IronMan, I asked him in another post if he had been for his 3rd procedure yet, but heard nothing back. Strange that we aren't hearing anything back from him either. Anybody heard from him?

    IronMan always seemed so positive about Hasci...

    IronMan went 3 times to HASCI, right ? Since he's always been shooting photo's of his results and been doing calculations, by now he must have a final verdict on HASCI. Either his photo's are now 100% proof that it's all a lie, or he has 100% proof that it actually works (LOL yeah right). So, him not posting here anymore, what do you think that means ? He was always SO determined to prove me wrong. Then he finally has the results and ... just disappears. Any rationale thinking person would come to the same conclusion here as to what must have been the result.
  • 04-04-2015 06:21 PM
    gc83uk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by caddarik79 View Post
    Hey Gaz if you read me but just don't want to participate in this forum anymore because of all the HST bashing etc

    my email is my name here: caddarik79 and hotmail.com with the @ in the middle :)

    Hi mate, I'm still here :p

    Been busy of late. I can't even remember the last time I checked my donor with a mirror or camera in all honesty. I'm using a grade 2 clipper all over these days, so I'm not sure what that will reveal but I can take some pics. Not sure when I'll get round to that at the moment, taking pics does require some time!

    I've got no immediate plans for another HST due to other commitments, but later in the year I will decide on that.

    Good to see the same old names here too, c5000, cocacola and Arashi.

    BTW I still believe there is a NET gain of hair, I can't remember the exact figure I quoted over the last year or so, but I think it was around 20%
  • 04-06-2015 08:37 AM
    caddarik79
    Hey Gaz,

    Good to read from you!!! How is your young dad's life?
    No problem, I'm glad you are busy with "real life" stuffs.

    Same here, good times, good travels, projects etc... but still monitoring the forum cause the only place where I trust I can follow some interesting threads!

    Am curious of your results of course and if you will go for more. Am considering it, eventhough the last Arashi finding is kind of annoying "Saunders going to the competition because of a depleted donor".

    Let's not start again the neverending debate. I am just interested in following the multiple HST patients, like you (a succesful one in my opinion).
    Happy that you are still keen to show us and no rush or urgence.

    I will travel to Asia this summer, but am wondering if I would not consider going in Maastricht or Amsterdam at the end of the year...(am a bit more like Arashi on this, I wait the maximum, I can hold it for now, it's OK, but still very hungry for proofs of very good transformation with multiple sessions)
  • 04-08-2015 07:46 AM
    Pentarou
    Hi Gaz, hope you're doing well, good to hear from you again.
  • 04-13-2015 07:52 AM
    c5000
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gc83uk View Post
    Hi mate, I'm still here :p

    Been busy of late. I can't even remember the last time I checked my donor with a mirror or camera in all honesty. I'm using a grade 2 clipper all over these days, so I'm not sure what that will reveal but I can take some pics. Not sure when I'll get round to that at the moment, taking pics does require some time!

    I've got no immediate plans for another HST due to other commitments, but later in the year I will decide on that.

    Good to see the same old names here too, c5000, cocacola and Arashi.

    BTW I still believe there is a NET gain of hair, I can't remember the exact figure I quoted over the last year or so, but I think it was around 20%

    Hi Gaz

    Great to hear from you. You must be pretty pleased with your result if you just clip down to a grade 2 and get on with things.

    Whenever you get a chance to take some photos, that would be great.

    Have you heard from IronMan by any chance? He has disappeared and I wonder if he even went for his 3rd HST...
  • 04-18-2015 11:39 AM
    Arashi
    Good to see you back, gaz ! Would also love to see updated pics !
  • 04-20-2015 07:25 AM
    caddarik79
    IronMan updates would also be appreciated :)

    Did you see the last TV show, beauty looks seizoen 5.
    Dr Gho is starting to talk in interview about controlling the multiplication, and make 5 hairs out of 1 on a regular procedure and not 4 there, then 7, then 3, then 9...

    If Gho and Cristiano could bring us there, that would be awesome.
  • 04-26-2015 07:35 AM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by caddarik79 View Post
    Dr Gho is starting to talk in interview about controlling the multiplication, and make 5 hairs out of 1 on a regular procedure and not 4 there, then 7, then 3, then 9...

    If Gho and Cristiano could bring us there, that would be awesome.

    Gho has been talking about that for a loooong time. And so far it's always been just that: talking.
  • 04-26-2015 04:33 PM
    joachim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by caddarik79 View Post
    IronMan updates would also be appreciated :)

    Did you see the last TV show, beauty looks seizoen 5.
    Dr Gho is starting to talk in interview about controlling the multiplication, and make 5 hairs out of 1 on a regular procedure and not 4 there, then 7, then 3, then 9...

    If Gho and Cristiano could bring us there, that would be awesome.

    man, do you seriously believe dr. gho's claims? after all the evidence which speaks a clear language against him? he is a cheater, and the sooner or later it will get public.
  • 04-28-2015 12:48 AM
    caddarik79
    @joachim

    It's also been a veeeeeeeryyyyyyyyyyyyyy long time that you guyz claim that he will get backfired with cheating and that it will all be public and??? so far?

    Means to me that your claims are not more valid than his talks about the future...

    He seems to stick to his point, no matter all the controversial moves towards them...

    Am waiting for your "it will be public sooner or later" :-)
    Meanwhile, Gaz got back some decent head of hair.
  • 04-28-2015 01:03 AM
    caddarik79
    and as mentioned earlier in this thread about Gaz results, let's please stop the neverending discussion about "true or not"... we have 27.495 posts of arguments and fights about that...
    It is OK, I'm fine with both claims... the most important to me is "how to deal with hair loss and best options to bridge until the cure if any".
    If you were so sure about him being a cheater, you would move on and disregard threads mentioning his name.

    I give it the benefit of the doubts, there are fishy moves from them and also to much certitudes in you with no effects since they are still growing and developping (and trust me, they have a fair database of clients, you could have found allies to go to court if they were soooo bad and so much cheating).

    So, keep your certitudes for the threads where we argued about it, here it's a thread about Gaz results, hopefully, our friend will soon show us some pics post HST 5.

    I would never try to shut HASCI down, because, what if they bring the 1 hair = 5? or what if they really have it in the pipeline?

    IF they were so fake and not legit, they would have closed their door, drawning in a sea of complaints and lawsuits...
  • 04-28-2015 06:12 AM
    Arashi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by caddarik79 View Post
    IF they were so fake and not legit, they would have closed their door, drawning in a sea of complaints and lawsuits...

    Who would sue them ? First of all it's almost impossible for the average consumer to find out if it worked. How would you do that ? Secondly, IF you found out it didnt work (like I did but also like Ben Saunders did for example), would you sue them ? Hell no. A lawsuit is a horrible thing. I've sued somebody before (who stole money from me, about $100.000), it's tons of stress, high lawyer fees and in the end what will you get ? It's really not worth it for such a relatively low amount of money.

    The only option was the central organisation for marketing in the Netherlands, the "Reclame code commissie". A group of Dutch doctors and hair specialists went to them 2 times to have HASCI stop advertising but the Reclame Code Commissie ruled in favor of HASCI twice (purely based on the argument that they had something published in a scientific magazine, EVEN though the magazine admitted they never checkec HASCI's article, quite unbelievable IMHO). The organisation in general only rules 2 times, after that you can't go to them again to ask for a ruling. Two times is the max. So what other option do people have ? Nothing. And that's why HASCI still continues doing business.
  • 04-29-2015 06:58 AM
    caddarik79
    who is wrong, who is right?

    I still believe that spending time on television defending their technique and keeping on repeating that they are working on improving it to the point of creating more than one hair from one hair is a bit suicidal if they are fraud!

    the scandal behind it even if not yet there, is huge!

    They always make the difference with FUE, saying tht they are the only one to multiply hair.

    I know we had that debate already, and am not denying the fishy or blurry zones...

    Still, I trust it's the best option so far and I trust there might come a day where the cure "multiplying hair and reimplanting them" might come from them in the end... from the so criticized Dr Gho.

    They said it in the last episode, one procedure gives 35% coverage, two give 70% (and to be honest, I have the impression they are not bullshitting, I am sure I would have a very decent 70% coverage with a second procedure on my front)

    Look at Guido : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnjy0FtZ2jg

    starts around 11:00

    For who can afford it, isn't it the best? I and you probably would have a Guido situation with another one or two procedures max!!! and then, relax for another 5, 6 years and see what Gho says about 1hair becoming 5.
  • 05-27-2015 06:48 AM
    caddarik79
    Hey Gaz,

    any opportunity to shoot your result post HST 5 and post it here so that we can be jealous of you?

    Cheers mate,
  • 05-27-2015 11:08 AM
    cocacola
    Yes please! Dont abandon us after 5, we need hope!

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