• 01-13-2016 10:39 AM
    jamesst11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ziggyz123 View Post
    Yeah bro, fin in my eyes is a far worse drug.. Don't ask me why, but I just feel better on dutasteride. No regrowth really.. Actually, the back of my scalp started getting thin and that filled in it seems in just four months. Caught that one early though lol. My temples are slowly receding, but the short minaturized hairs actually are growing out longer on dutasteride.

    Dutasteride powder is basically just dutasteride in powder form lol. I bought 10 grams of it so I'll literally never run out. I still take avodart, but like I said if I need to up my dose, it won't break my wallet.

    Before I got on dut though I took a 2 month break from AA's so idk if that somehow let me reset in a way from the bad effects of fin? Anyway, dut may be helping and it takes a lot for me to say that. Going to Wait til 6 month mark to Reevaluate if I'm doing better.

    Are you on a legit generic? Give it like two weeks of ED usage and you should feel if your responding at all. You really won't see results til 6-12 months just like fin. I started getting less of an itch this month actually so it def takes time.

    I could not get a single doc to prescribe it to me, so I went the online pharmacy route (which I hate doing)... It's from internationalpharm.net, which seems somewhat legit and has relatively cheap DUT... The packaging looks totally legit and the compound is in red gel caps? who knows really... hope to God it's legit.
  • 01-13-2016 03:00 PM
    jamesst11
    Ziggy,
    couple more questions:
    1) what dosage of DUT are you taking?
    2) how did it rid of your scalp sensations
    3) I have the oilest hair line right now... it's like my entire forehead is dry, then one inch below the hair line I can literally wipe the oil off... did you experience this on fin? and, if your did... has DUT helped this?
  • 01-13-2016 03:19 PM
    Ziggyz123
    Dude I got mine prescribed online actually and they sent the script to my pharmacy. It's was medical wellness .com..

    I'm on .5mg avodart right now and my hairline was pretty oily actually. It started going away within the first month on it. Now it's barely oily at 4 months on. It GRADUALLY started getting my scalp sensations under control. I still get some itches on my hairline still though, but no burning pains (knock on wood)..

    I'd say duta definitely helped my scalp oil over time compared to fin. I have Setipiprant that I'm also toying around with now. That also seems to help a lot with the oil. I'm still slowly losing on both of these, but no where near as much as I was on fin. Dutasteride is just a better drug in my eyes so go into this with an open mind. I know it's hard because of what happened to both of us.
  • 01-13-2016 04:21 PM
    Soonbald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesst11 View Post
    I could not get a single doc to prescribe it to me, so I went the online pharmacy route (which I hate doing)... It's from internationalpharm.net, which seems somewhat legit and has relatively cheap DUT... The packaging looks totally legit and the compound is in red gel caps? who knows really... hope to God it's legit.



    if FIN didnt do shit for you for 10 months and only made things "worse" even when FIN blocked alot of DHT. how would dutasteride work much better and thicken up and stop your hairloss? and I dont Believe the shit people say that they feel "much better" on dutasteride lol...thats most likely because dutasteride raises more testosterone than FIN..xD have you even tried RU in neogenic for a few months james?? have you seriously tried that? I read a guy using minox and FIN for years..it didint do much for his hair he said but he then added RU and his hair thickened up greatly...
  • 01-14-2016 01:26 PM
    jamesst11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soonbald View Post
    if FIN didnt do shit for you for 10 months and only made things "worse" even when FIN blocked alot of DHT. how would dutasteride work much better and thicken up and stop your hairloss? and I dont Believe the shit people say that they feel "much better" on dutasteride lol...thats most likely because dutasteride raises more testosterone than FIN..xD have you even tried RU in neogenic for a few months james?? have you seriously tried that? I read a guy using minox and FIN for years..it didint do much for his hair he said but he then added RU and his hair thickened up greatly...

    I have read and seen photos of quite a few accounts where DUT worked better for people than fin. You can google it and a few will come up on different forums. Have you seen the study regarding scalp DHT levels while on fin vs. dut? Dut has a much better effect at lowering BOTH serum DHT and SCALP DHT levels than finasteride. IF you are experiencing reflex hyperandro.. on finasteride, that means that your body is counteracting the drug by creating more receptors for DHT... So, if that theory is correct, then despite the REDUCTION of DHT in your scalp, it will more easily bind because it has somewhere to go.. NOW, theoretically again, IF dutasteride DRASTICALLY drops scalp DHT levels, then despite the upregulation of receptors, there is not enough DHT to greatly bind to and impact those follicles?? - I don't know if my reasoning is off here, it just makes sense to me. I will try this for a few months and IF it doesn't work, then I am going completely topical and RU would be the first place I turn.
  • 01-14-2016 01:30 PM
    jamesst11
    I am still micro-dosing fin, because I believe my body is used to it and will gradually taper off. I am just supplementing with DUT, .5mg per day as well. Time will tell! I am also starting to up my % of minox, probably just out of shits and giggles. But my theory in this is that, in using 5% for over 3 years, I can gradually increase to 10% and it might do something.
  • 01-14-2016 01:44 PM
    Not giving up
    Hi James, interesting thread brother.

    I have started micro dosing fin myself. Second week in and like yourself and ziggy my scalp sensations haven't gotten much worse. It's early days though so I'm not panicked yet.

    Anyway, dut seems bloody scary to me. A drop that severe in DHT, surely long term that can't be good for the body?
    But then again, it could be the answer.

    Just think long and hard before diving into it. It's seemingly working well for ziggy so it could for you too, just don't make this decision lightly.
  • 01-14-2016 03:52 PM
    jamesst11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Not giving up View Post
    Hi James, interesting thread brother.

    I have started micro dosing fin myself. Second week in and like yourself and ziggy my scalp sensations haven't gotten much worse. It's early days though so I'm not panicked yet.

    Anyway, dut seems bloody scary to me. A drop that severe in DHT, surely long term that can't be good for the body?
    But then again, it could be the answer.

    Just think long and hard before diving into it. It's seemingly working well for ziggy so it could for you too, just don't make this decision lightly.

    trust me, it's taken me years to come to this decision. Hair loss is SEVERELY impacting my life. I have a transplant scar, and weird transplants that give me nightmares and horrible anxiety. Losing the rest of my hair is a social death sentence. I wish I didn't look at it that way. I didn't have sexual sides on fin, just an increase in the rate of loss. I am hoping that SOMEHOW, DUT and a higher minoxidil concentration will regrow at least what I have lost on finasteride. This is my last stand.
  • 01-14-2016 05:21 PM
    BaldingEagle
    Really hope things work out for you James.

    I know Dr. Shapiro personally used fin and got no visible results, he swapped to dut and it thickened his hair.

    Also the best way to fight up regulation (especially local like in your scalp) would probably be to lower the androgens beyond what your body can counter. Dut is vastly superior to fin on paper, and definitely has shown the best recovery I've ever seen, a nw3 to 1.5.

    I really think we'll have at least one new treatment in 5 years and I doubt 5 years of dut will do irreversible damage. Even 20 year smokers can fully recover. The human body is amazing.

    If fin ever stops for me I'll be on dut too.

    Please keep us updated on your progress, everyone deserves a chance to fight this ****ing curse.
  • 01-18-2016 07:13 PM
    BaldingHelpMe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesst11 View Post
    trust me, it's taken me years to come to this decision.

    James, how are you doing on dut?

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