• 02-20-2012 11:49 AM
    StressedToTheBald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    Thanks STTB. It appears very complex. The only way to know for sure I guess, would be for me to try.

    I'm tempted to give finasteride one more go at a lower dose, but I want my libido to return first.

    If I have no luck, I'll try saw palmetto.

    By the way, I asked my Dad about the zinc dose he uses. I wrote it down but it's not on me, so I'll write again later. I assume it wasn't a big dose because he just bought it from a high street store.

    You're very welcome.
    I hope You'll stay on the safe side and give saw palmetto a chance.
    Please do let me know about the zinc dose Your Dad is using. Also what type of zinc it is.. there are several type of zinc compounds out there and not all seem to be showing the same effect. Thank You.
  • 02-20-2012 12:14 PM
    25 going on 65
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lucrio View Post
    So, after having frequented this website during my first attempt to combat hair loss with finasteride, I am back with more questions. The finasteride unfortunately did not work out for me after six months as I was an unlucky one to experience side effects and I made the unhappy but necessary decision to quit. After a month of not taking fin I still wanted to fight hair loss so I decided to begin taking saw palmetto.
    I am completely aware of its unproven and debated nature but I figured why not, I am not doing anything else proactive, I might as well give it a try. Now to my question. I have been taking saw palmetto for a little over a week now and my hair has begun to shed recently. I am wondering if this shedding could mean that maybe saw palmetto actually does work to help slow hair loss and the shedding is part of the typical regrowth cycle (I also began shedding about a week into finasteride, which i ultimately made progress with). Or, is saw palmetto entirely different and may just cause hormone changes which only result in sheds with no growth.

    Sorry for the long spiel but I figured i would give some background. Any advice or opinions on if I should continue saw palmetto would be appreciated.

    If you only quit finasteride 5 weeks ago, you could be experiencing hair loss associated with quitting the drug. If you retained, improved or regrew any hair during your 6 months on it, those gains will be lost upon dropping the medication, and your hair will "catch up" to where it would have been had you never taken fin.
  • 02-20-2012 12:38 PM
    2020
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StressedToTheBald View Post
    Its an excellent question chrisis. Finally some inspiring discussion that makes sense.

    :rolleyes:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StressedToTheBald View Post
    It is known and reported by several studies that saw palmetto is safe and that significant & permanent side effects which occur with finasteride do not happen with saw palmetto.

    I'll keep copy-pasting this until your respond...

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22325459 (Duke University)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21980923 (Japan)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21910805 (Italy)
  • 02-20-2012 01:19 PM
    DAVE52
    saw palmetto = waste of time

    If it really really worked yoi don't think it would be publicized as such

    Propecia works at slowing it down, for some people , but a small percentage ( me being one :mad: ) get stupid side effects

    Net result --- I have to learn to accept my f*cking fate :(
  • 02-20-2012 02:15 PM
    chrisis
    Dave52, saw palmetto can't be protected with patents, so it can't be compared to finasteride. Research is very expensive, so there's no clinical data about its effectiveness and there's just no incentive for anyone to market it to the extent of finasteride.

    There just aren't enough people trying saw palmetto for anyone to draw anything meaningful about whether it works or not.
  • 02-20-2012 02:18 PM
    2020
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisis View Post
    There just aren't enough people trying saw palmetto for anyone to draw anything meaningful about whether it works or not.

    uhm there are plenty of desperate bald people who will try anything:

    site:hairl0sstalk.com saw palmetto
    site:hairl0sshelp.com saw palmetto
    ....

    If Saw Palmetto worked, then the Hair Loss community would certainly know about it.
  • 02-20-2012 02:33 PM
    DAVE52
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    If Saw Palmetto worked, then the Hair Loss community would certainly know about it.

    If it worked , the WORLD would know about it

    Anyone taking , who says it's growing hair , I would argue that you want to believe it's the saw palmetto doing it
  • 02-20-2012 03:05 PM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StressedToTheBald View Post
    Finally some inspiring discussion that makes sense.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvxIXd2-3fo
  • 02-20-2012 03:13 PM
    25 going on 65
    :D
    We love you Tracy.
  • 02-20-2012 03:37 PM
    chrisis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    If Saw Palmetto worked, then the Hair Loss community would certainly know about it.

    But since you can't patent it, you can't exactly make much money from it, therefore there's no clinical data and no one promoting it. How many people have tried it? It's certainly not something I'd have heard about without researching it in depth.

    I'm not saying saw palmetto works; I'm saying you can't just dismiss it.

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