Suffering from depression for a couple years, suicidal thoughts...I am lost.

At first glance you might think that this is an overdramatic post made by a teen who just lost a little hair here and there. It is not. And I don't have anyone to help me out. So could you please give me some suggestions that could add some value to my life?

Hello guys, I'm a 22 years old male who's in this battle since his 16/17s. I've started taking minoxidil and finasteride since then. Yup, pretty much 5 years. What a long journey it has been... Sadly these medications couldn't help me that much.

Well, I'm completly lost guys. I've already attempted some messed up things at myself when I was at my worst. I already tried everything..medication, hobbies, gym, talking to dermatologists, psycologists, family and even some of my friends. But it's really hard for someone who's not suffering from it to actually trully understand you, and I'm ok with that. But I really don't know what to do with my life.

Everything I've been doing so far was with no true passion. I just graduated and I don't feel like I've accomplished anything that could really make me happy.

I just got out of a relationship with a girl who didn't trully love me at all. Then I spoke it all to my mom, I said: "Mom, I no longer love myself. It's been a couple years that I feel this way and I don't know what to do. This is not me, and it's dragging me down in a way I've never imagined". She started crying, she wanted to help me. We tried some supplements and shampoos she bought but they didn't really do much.

Now this is me in the present. A white skinny boy with no facial hair who's been using topical fibers and bonnets to cover up this disease that I, sadly, care so much for. I tried buzzing my hair and then I end up looking like a poor kid who's in chemotherapy. I asked my dad if there was any chance that we could do a trip and go to a hair system store. I showed him what these hair systems were and he started yelling at me, that I was going crazy.

If there's anything that you think that I should do/consider, then please leave it here. Whether it is to treat hair loss or my depression. I'll take any suggestions in consideration.


Thank you for giving me a hand. And I hope you can enjoy yourself and live your life to the fullest. You trully deserve it.

There are a couple of suggestions, add a keto shampoo to your regiment. Also do you use branded propecia or generic? Consider changing your diet.

Add maybe RU58841 depending on your Finasteride. You could also consider a good hair system if you can afford one?

Vunoo,

Being a young balding man is tough, I know because I was one and am still bald at 44, but it’s not a death sentence. First thing you need to do is accept it. It’s real and it’s a struggle. Your depression lies in unacceptance. Once you say this is something I need to deal with and I’m ready to take action, you’re on your way. Once you accept it you can work on your confidence. The best way to do that is cut your hair short and move on. If you’re worried about women, they will respond way more to a man who has accepted his fate, trimmed it down, and doesn’t let it interfere with his daily responsibilities and dreams, than to a man trying to hold onto something he no longer has control over, and suffering with self doubt and low confidence in the process. Once you accept this, you can earn back some self respect and start working towards the things you want in life. It won’t be easy, but it’s not easy for anyone. Start doing hot yoga. I wish someone would have told me to do that 20 years ago. Go talk to a counselor or therapist. Go walk, jog or bike. Get a dog, he will love you know matter what. Accept the fact that some assholes will point out your lack of hair and try to make you feel bad about yourself, just know that they are projecting their own insecurities on you. Learn to get comfortable with yourself, meditate. Celebrate the little wins, build resilience, just know this all takes time. Know this, you will meet an incredible person one day. Stay away from alcohol and drugs if you have a tendency for abuse. Live a discipline life and look at yourself in the mirror and stay committed. Stay away from internet porn. Don’t be so damn hard on yourself, everyone’s concentrating on themselves anyway. Best of luck buddy.

P.S. - I have to remind myself of all this often.

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Vunoo,

Being a young balding man is tough, I know because I was one and am still bald at 44, but it’s not a death sentence. First thing you need to do is accept it. It’s real and it’s a struggle. Your depression lies in unacceptance. Once you say this is something I need to deal with and I’m ready to take action, you’re on your way. Once you accept it you can work on your confidence. The best way to do that is cut your hair short and move on. If you’re worried about women, they will respond way more to a man who has accepted his fate, trimmed it down, and doesn’t let it interfere with his daily responsibilities and dreams, than to a man trying to hold onto something he no longer has control over, and suffering with self doubt and low confidence in the process. Once you accept this, you can earn back some self respect and start working towards the things you want in life. It won’t be easy, but it’s not easy for anyone. Start doing hot yoga. I wish someone would have told me to do that 20 years ago. Go talk to a counselor or therapist. Go walk, jog or bike. Get a dog, he will love you know matter what. Accept the fact that some assholes will point out your lack of hair and try to make you feel bad about yourself, just know that they are projecting their own insecurities on you. Learn to get comfortable with yourself, meditate. Celebrate the little wins, build resilience, just know this all takes time. Know this, you will meet an incredible person one day. Stay away from alcohol and drugs if you have a tendency for abuse. Live a discipline life and look at yourself in the mirror and stay committed. Stay away from internet porn. Don’t be so damn hard on yourself, everyone’s concentrating on themselves anyway. Best of luck buddy.

P.S. - I have to remind myself of all this often.

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I will never accept this condition. I am almost 70 and my hair first started thinning when I was 14. I will never surrender. To surrender is to deserve it.

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Originally Posted by spitfire

Vunoo,

Being a young balding man is tough, I know because I was one and am still bald at 44, but it’s not a death sentence. First thing you need to do is accept it. It’s real and it’s a struggle. Your depression lies in unacceptance. Once you say this is something I need to deal with and I’m ready to take action, you’re on your way. Once you accept it you can work on your confidence. The best way to do that is cut your hair short and move on. If you’re worried about women, they will respond way more to a man who has accepted his fate, trimmed it down, and doesn’t let it interfere with his daily responsibilities and dreams, than to a man trying to hold onto something he no longer has control over, and suffering with self doubt and low confidence in the process. Once you accept this, you can earn back some self respect and start working towards the things you want in life. It won’t be easy, but it’s not easy for anyone. Start doing hot yoga. I wish someone would have told me to do that 20 years ago. Go talk to a counselor or therapist. Go walk, jog or bike. Get a dog, he will love you know matter what. Accept the fact that some assholes will point out your lack of hair and try to make you feel bad about yourself, just know that they are projecting their own insecurities on you. Learn to get comfortable with yourself, meditate. Celebrate the little wins, build resilience, just know this all takes time. Know this, you will meet an incredible person one day. Stay away from alcohol and drugs if you have a tendency for abuse. Live a discipline life and look at yourself in the mirror and stay committed. Stay away from internet porn. Don’t be so damn hard on yourself, everyone’s concentrating on themselves anyway. Best of luck buddy.

P.S. - I have to remind myself of all this often.

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I would be lying to you if I said I would be capable of embracing it. Its been 5 years and I still couldnt do it. This is not me. Its like Im someone else..

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Originally Posted by Jazz1

There are a couple of suggestions, add a keto shampoo to your regiment. Also do you use branded propecia or generic? Consider changing your diet.

Add maybe RU58841 depending on your Finasteride. You could also consider a good hair system if you can afford one?

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Can I get that Ru drug in a pharmacy? Do you know any well-known hair system shop in Europe? What kind of diet would you suggest?

Thanks for the reply.

May be hope at the end of the year. Replicel is suppose to be released in Japan so that is exciting.

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May be hope at the end of the year. Replicel is suppose to be released in Japan so that is exciting.

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Even if it ends up working it would have to pass FDA's approval and all that stufff. It'll be years until we get our hands on something better than the current alternatives. Which is just sad.

Well at the very least you should seek counseling if you feel suicidal. Best of luck.

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Even if it ends up working it would have to pass FDA's approval and all that stufff. It'll be years until we get our hands on something better than the current alternatives. Which is just sad.

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You get on a plane to Japan and get the treatment that is what I will be doing.

Don’t think chicks are just into the boys who have hair , Do you think hair is the only attractive feature of men ?,Just remember Bruce wills , Dwayne Johnson and many more
It’s all about your Confidence
Just be confident and concentrate on your carrer
Everything will get fine with time
Time heals everything
Hit gym , Eat healthy , STAY CONFIDENT
When you get suicidal instincts , Just remember your mother ,
First of all you want to do all this for hair, which is just dead cells

If you are truly suffering from depression, then you need to get help from a mental health professional. It may be more than just your hair. And even if it is "just your hair", being able to talk to someone who can give you some coping tools might help.

Thank you very much for taking your time and helping a stranger out, guys. I trully, TRULLY appreciate it. I am trying to surpass the sadness that is ongoing inside me, and while hair loss may not be the only cause, it has always been something that made me feel insecure. There have been way too many events going on at the same time that didn't help my self-esteem either.

Regarding @zlatan, I go ocasionally to the gym and play tenis now and then. The thing is that those guys you mencioned represent the more masculine/matura/alpha males, with strong faces and facial tones. The clean/buzz cut doesn't favor everyone as you probably know it. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't favor me. I'm a slim white boy who has pretty much no facial hair. I've always rocked that Troye Sivan-ish look and having lack of hair will turn me into a dead corpse. Now I'm not saying that continuous gym sessions won't improve my overall structure, I'm sure it will. But it won't suddenly give you a face that will rock a clean cut.

@BaldBearded, thanks for the tips once again. I don't have many folks that I can talk to regarding this situation. The dermatologists around here (or at least the one I've been going to) aren't trully worried about your physical/mental health, and if the cause is genetic baldness they'll just say "Oh, thats male pattern baldness, mate. keep on taking finasteride and minoxidil and hope for the best". I'm there listening to it like "Well, THANK YOU sherlock for telling me to do what I've been doing since I was 17."...

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Originally Posted by Vunoo

Thank you very much for taking your time and helping a stranger out, guys. I trully, TRULLY appreciate it. I am trying to surpass the sadness that is ongoing inside me, and while hair loss may not be the only cause, it has always been something that made me feel insecure. There have been way too many events going on at the same time that didn't help my self-esteem either.

Regarding @zlatan, I go ocasionally to the gym and play tenis now and then. The thing is that those guys you mencioned represent the more masculine/matura/alpha males, with strong faces and facial tones. The clean/buzz cut doesn't favor everyone as you probably know it. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't favor me. I'm a slim white boy who has pretty much no facial hair. I've always rocked that Troye Sivan-ish look and having lack of hair will turn me into a dead corpse. Now I'm not saying that continuous gym sessions won't improve my overall structure, I'm sure it will. But it won't suddenly give you a face that will rock a clean cut.

@BaldBearded, thanks for the tips once again. I don't have many folks that I can talk to regarding this situation. The dermatologists around here (or at least the one I've been going to) aren't trully worried about your physical/mental health, and if the cause is genetic baldness they'll just say "Oh, thats male pattern baldness, mate. keep on taking finasteride and minoxidil and hope for the best". I'm there listening to it like "Well, THANK YOU sherlock for telling me to do what I've been doing since I was 17."...

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Perhaps your depression is caused by the finasteride?

Never thought about it. Is it capable of giving ya side effects like those? That's a thing I'll have to talk about with my dermatologist.

This thread is painful to read, and I'm sure many of us recognise the feelings you are experiencing. Frankly, it's heart-breaking. Still now, when I go out and I see guys in their 50s, 60s, 70s with beautiful, thick heads of hair, it almost makes me want to cry - they have no idea how lucky they are to never experience the soul-crushing agony. Every man (and woman) should be able to grow hair (if they want to), it's simply too important to our self-image.

But, you are young. That is a big advantage. You have time on your side. Keep on keeping on, go to the gym etc. Perhaps you could set up a 'hair fund', that you pay into regularly, so that when more effective treatments come (and they will, it's been 20 years since propecia, something has to give soon), you will be ready and raring to go. Life most certainly does not end at 30, and you could (and I like to think, will) have many many years of full-head-of-hair-edness to look forward to.

Stay strong brother. I hope you find the peace you need.

Thank you so much for the conforting words, fella. This is the only place where I can speak to and people will actually listen to what I have to say. It gives me that burst of happiness that I so strongly need, sometimes. So thank you for that :)


You don't know how much I'd love to have a friend IRL with similar problems that I could talk with. It makes me feel so lonely.

Hey Vunoo

There are a few things you might want to try if you haven't already. You can try Latanoprost topically, select lash topically, maybe taking a vitamin, lactobacillus which is good gut bacteria, pumpkin seed oil which is good against DHT, exercising always helps for overall good health and reducing stress, deep breathing is also good for hair growth and reducing stress/inflammation, drinking water instead of sugary drinks, there is a youtuber named Tyrone Magnus and he did fasting for 18 days and said that his hairline was filling in, you can take a antioxidant vitamin or make an antioxidant juice, some people do 'earthing" and they swear they feel better and there are some studies by the NIH on it, you can look into hair transplantation, someone had mentioned their is less fatty cells on the scalp so somek kind of a cram topically can help with that but its a breast enlargement cream that someone had mentioned on a post here and their is electrostimulation for hair growth/mesenchymal stem cells migrating from the bones to the scalp and producing hair. CMF bone stimulator on ebay and yes I will definitely be giving that a try. Cheers mate

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Hey Vunoo

There are a few things you might want to try if you haven't already. You can try Latanoprost topically, select lash topically, maybe taking a vitamin, lactobacillus which is good gut bacteria, pumpkin seed oil which is good against DHT, exercising always helps for overall good health and reducing stress, deep breathing is also good for hair growth and reducing stress/inflammation, drinking water instead of sugary drinks, there is a youtuber named Tyrone Magnus and he did fasting for 18 days and said that his hairline was filling in, you can take a antioxidant vitamin or make an antioxidant juice, some people do 'earthing" and they swear they feel better and there are some studies by the NIH on it, you can look into hair transplantation, someone had mentioned their is less fatty cells on the scalp so somek kind of a cram topically can help with that but its a breast enlargement cream that someone had mentioned on a post here and their is electrostimulation for hair growth/mesenchymal stem cells migrating from the bones to the scalp and producing hair. CMF bone stimulator on ebay and yes I will definitely be giving that a try. Cheers mate

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Thank you for the tips mate, I'll give a try at the first ones you said since they have a low cost. Im not as inclined for the others though as they are way more costly and their results aren't really granted. A uncle of mine did 2 transplantions already. Pretty costly ones. And it didn't get that better unfortubately.

Anyway though. I'll give it a shot at those victamins and what nit. Also sports is kind of hard for me now. I have all my week filled with work full time and then my bachelors at night. Which hasnt been really easy to handle.


Once again, thank you so much for taking you time :)

All might not agree with me but you are young and most likely have a very narrow mindset and focus.
So you should keep taking what you do minoxidil and finasteride but take a rest about your hair solution.


Go to the doctor and get hormone blood work done.
Who knows, you might have an underlying condition, such as you low testosterone.

If you have suicidal thoughts, it is time to seek professional help.
Focus and try to improve these problems first.

After that, you could train in the gym and eat properly and gain some muscle.
Fullbody workout 3 time a week, with heavy compound movements, Squat, Deadlift ect.


As a person with faith, I advice you to read about Islam.
It is a book of guidens and it deeper layer of understanding about the world we live in.

There is strength in faith and it can help in adversity, so google quran translations english.

Hello Falcon, thanks for your suggestion. I'm an Atheist so I don't really believe in stuff like that (sadly or not). I've been looking for a decent psychologist these couple weeks. The thing about these meds is that they haven't been doing much for me, unfortunately. I've been really taking into consideration going for the hai system path and see if it bring back my happyness. I want to either go back to gym or play tenis once again, which has been kind of hard since I'll be working and studying starting next month.

We all can strive towards what ever goal we have in life, no matter what faith we have.

As men we are very hardwired to seek womens acceptance and we wish to please them.

Go to youtube and listen about Mgtow, the goal is not to hate woman, but to understand yourself and inclination.

It might help you more then you might think, but you have to listen to a few videos, maybe you can seach "sandman" as a starting point..

Tennis will not get you muscle but lifting weights can and I feel better when I lift.

As dumb as this is gonna sound (cause I'm in the same boat and told myself several times) the best thing to do is focus on other aspects of your being and accept the fact your losing your hair. You can cough up a small fortune and get a transplant and run the risk of not being happy with the results or you can try min/fin and fight for every last follicle. But more than likely they won't give you the full head of hair you dream of. My advice. Experiment with different cuts. Read that book you've been interested in. Lose that weight/gain that muscle mass, go on that trip. Enjoy. Your. Life. It is soooo much more than hair my friend. You've got this

I am so sorry to hear this.

Don't take this the wrong way, but the 2021 Boulder King Soopers shooter was quite bald for age 21. Has anyone considered that as a factor in him cracking?

He'd apparently never had a girlfriend, and Timothy McVeigh was said to be in similar straits, except for hair loss. I bring this up because when people talk of suicide, it can carry the risk of others being taken out with them, especially with America's insane gun worship.

Knowing how to deal with depression is necessary to understand: it is an illness, and a doctor should treat it. At the first signs of fatigue, bad mood, which nothing can improve, you need to react to it and rest. It is best to take a vacation. A sanatorium, a vacation home, a vacation home away from everyone will help distract you. The thought that you have no one to replace you at work will never let go, and what about children, husbands, etc. You have to realize that saving the drowning people is their concern, so you have to fight for yourself, chase the thoughts away, go to your boss, explain yourself and leave. Not for a day or two, but for longer, as circumstances permit. There is always a way out, and you need to mobilize and find a solution to apply this fast-acting remedy

I'm starting to lose hair as well, and I feel like I'm not coping well with it at all. Any tips?/ Vunoo, in fact, there are lots of women who find bald men attractive. Hunny, when I met my husband, he was bald. I must say I never thought I would date a bald guy, but damn, his confidence just made me fall in love with him more. So, dear, I know that this can be very distressing and negatively affect your self-esteem at a young age, but please, make sure your mental health is okay. Try any of the apps from this article https://www.lamag.com/sponsored/best-online-therapy/. I used BetterHelp in the past, and it really did help. Also, don't forget that you're beautiful the way you are! Sending love!

don't even think about that! I am sure you are a strong personality and you will cope with all the problems

Reading all these comments and learning from it. Thank you for not hesitating to share your thoughts. e-bikes for kids

We must love ourselves and be able to cope with the worst adversities in our lives. Do not give up, this is only your life, and only you can change something. Perhaps https://studyhippo.com/essay-examples/adversity/ will help you because there are a large number of essays on adversity collected there. Surround yourself with only positive people and learn to think positively. You will definitely be healthy, but please do not forget about the importance of your mental health.

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