• 03-22-2014 06:14 AM
    PaperThin
    when will bimatoprost be commercialised ?
    is it actually in trial ? do you know when it will be out ?
    thx
  • 03-22-2014 01:27 PM
    rdawg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PaperThin View Post
    is it actually in trial ? do you know when it will be out ?
    thx

    I believe it's in phase IIb trial until this september, then they go to Phase III if they like the results. Essentially they felt the product worked(and it does) but didn't think it worked ENOUGH(probably around the same as rogaine) so they went to a higher dose for IIb.

    so potentially in about a year and a half-2 years.

    it will launch, but they're testing higher doses right now, it works but they may not like the side-effects or think it's a reasonable enough upgrade on Minoxidil to warrant paying millions for Phase III.
  • 03-23-2014 05:47 AM
    beetee
    I believe that the current trial is scheduled to end January 2015 (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/sh...st+hair&rank=1).

    However, in one of the last conference calls in which they mentioned bimatoprost for hair (which was several conference calls ago), they described this clinical trial as the first of two they were planning on running. As there is only one study listed, I am assuming that they are not running the studies concurrently, and given the certainty with which it was stated, it is possible that when this one ends in January 2015 they will be starting another Phase II clinical trial (which would be another year/year and a half). One would assume that if this current one worked like gang busters they would skip the next one, but I guess one cannot know what they're looking for so perhaps they're going to run the second one regardless.

    For those interested in what's going on with this product, this interview with the CEO is a good one to watch (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100702571). At least in this interview, he seems to feel pretty positive about the product's potential for effectiveness and eventual release. He also gives some sense of the time frame which the company is looking at.
  • 03-24-2014 12:21 AM
    deuce
    Yeah he says in the video 2019-2020. Why could I have not been born 5 years before I was. They will have CB and Bimatropost on the market in 5 years. Unfortunately I will be at least a nw5.
  • 03-24-2014 02:35 AM
    beetee
    As far as your progress through the scale, you might be surprised. I don't know where you're at now and how fast things have progressed up to this point for you, but I often find that people overestimate how fast it will progress. If there is a viable "cure" in 2020, we'll be the luckiest SOB's in the history of the world. I'm still skeptical that there will be anything significant by then, but nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about that.
  • 03-24-2014 07:38 AM
    Thinning@30
    Quote:

    Yeah he says in the video 2019-2020.
    Actually, I find this really depressing. I remember when they were talking about 2016-2017. Back then even that seemed far away. Now it seems like they're doing three phase II trials? I'll be a chrome dome by the time this reaches the market. Just how long does it take to run trials for a product that is already FDA approved for lower doses?
  • 03-24-2014 11:56 AM
    hellouser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thinning@30 View Post
    Actually, I find this really depressing. I remember when they were talking about 2016-2017. Back then even that seemed far away. Now it seems like they're doing three phase II trials? I'll be a chrome dome by the time this reaches the market. Just how long does it take to run trials for a product that is already FDA approved for lower doses?

    Until your fully bald. They're sadists.
  • 03-24-2014 06:16 PM
    beetee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Thinning@30 View Post
    Actually, I find this really depressing. I remember when they were talking about 2016-2017. Back then even that seemed far away. Now it seems like they're doing three phase II trials? I'll be a chrome dome by the time this reaches the market. Just how long does it take to run trials for a product that is already FDA approved for lower doses?

    I hear you. My best understanding of the reason why there's different Phase II's is that the first one was using the same strength formula as is used in Latisse (the eyelash product). It had some effectiveness but not enough, so now they are using the strongest formula they can in the new Phase II, but they are also experimenting with different delivery vehicles, one in the current Phase II and another one in the next Phase II. I am assuming that with each pairing of formula and vehicle they need to test for both safety and efficacy.

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