• 06-23-2013 07:08 PM
    25 going on 65
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigThinker View Post
    No. Don't. I just did that shit all winter for the first time in my life. I just used school work as an excuse to be anti-social. Never doing it again. It's not healthy at all - don't care what anyone says.

    There's something to be said for forcing yourself to go out with your insecurities to validate yourself. I hate the whole idea of "validation", but I can't help but acknowledge it matters.

    I agree it is not healthy. But f*ck, med shedding in the summer is awful. I should have started dut 6 months earlier at least. My timing was bad.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I buzzed mine. I rarely come on here, heck I only came on here today out of curiosity.

    Seriously, it feels good and you can get on with life.

    I buzzed it once and did not like it at all.
  • 06-25-2013 10:12 PM
    Tracy C
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    I am sick to death of walking the line between style and coverage.

    Then do what millions of other men do and just brush it back and don't worry about it - or seek a specialist and start treatments. Either way, get on with your life and live it to the fullest.
  • 06-29-2013 08:38 PM
    Proper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    Then do what millions of other men do and just brush it back and don't worry about it - or seek a specialist and start treatments. Either way, get on with your life and live it to the fullest.

    Lol sounds like some gangsta stuff right there. I agree. Live life to da fullest! Blaze dat ganja! Pop dose pills! Rob dat atm! No regrets!
  • 06-29-2013 09:57 PM
    Dan26
    Goes to show androgens/DHt aint the only culprit in hair loss. By taking dut you've basically addressed that aspect of MPB as thoroughly as you can.

    You could try adding RU. A few people swear by DUT and RU as the best possible regimen. You'll know pretty quickly if it works for you based on your shed stopping or not. Also I'd scrap the fin and just stick wit 2.5mg of dut.

    Could consider minox for growth boost. Tretonoin is a great addiition to any regimen, especially if you can get it cheap or prescribed by a doc (Retin-A for acne).

    Dunno what else broski, hang in there...Wierd cause I've been pushed to the edge lately too! Just learned that all you can do it make a plan and stick to it, adjust if need be, but some things are out of your control, and you have to accept that. Do the best you can.
  • 06-30-2013 08:52 AM
    25 going on 65
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    Then do what millions of other men do and just brush it back and don't worry about it - or seek a specialist and start treatments. Either way, get on with your life and live it to the fullest.

    Thanks Tracy. You are one of the posters I like on this forum.

    I have seen a specialist as well as a couple of derms in the last few years, and have been treating it. Almost 3 years on fin & 2% keto now, plus started dutasteride around 4.5 months ago. We will see where dut gets me

    Unfortunately brushing it back and moving on is not an option for me. Even just minor recession or diffuse thinning in the hairline/temples can make a noticeable difference in how good a face looks. I cannot give up the ideal framing even though I get tired of it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan26 View Post
    Goes to show androgens/DHt aint the only culprit in hair loss. By taking dut you've basically addressed that aspect of MPB as thoroughly as you can.

    You could try adding RU. A few people swear by DUT and RU as the best possible regimen. You'll know pretty quickly if it works for you based on your shed stopping or not. Also I'd scrap the fin and just stick wit 2.5mg of dut.

    Could consider minox for growth boost. Tretonoin is a great addiition to any regimen, especially if you can get it cheap or prescribed by a doc (Retin-A for acne).

    Dunno what else broski, hang in there...Wierd cause I've been pushed to the edge lately too! Just learned that all you can do it make a plan and stick to it, adjust if need be, but some things are out of your control, and you have to accept that. Do the best you can.

    Well I have only been on dut since Feb so I am most likely med shedding right now. I should know my full results on this drug within a year from now. (Not positive about that but my max results on fin seemed like they came around 14-15 months or so)
    I agree there are probably factors besides DHT involved. I keep reading crap about inflammation and perifollicular fibrosis, etc. People tak about addressing these things with various herbal extracts and topicals. I have no idea if there is any truth to it but I have started taking a few supplements (green tea extract, curcumin extract, grapeseed extract, nettle leaf extract) just because they are so cheap, I figure I have nothing to lose.

    I have considered RU but the lack of a truly reliable supply worries me. Is tretinoin actually a legit treatment?? That stuff is easy to get. I do not see how it would help MPB though?
  • 06-30-2013 09:02 AM
    Dan26
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    I have considered RU but the lack of a truly reliable supply worries me. Is tretinoin actually a legit treatment?? That stuff is easy to get. I do not see how it would help MPB though?

    Here is some good info about tretinoin http://www.hairlossbuddha.com/retin-...-and-hairloss/

    Also RU you can get from GB on other forums, or if your willing to spend a bit more Kane is a good place to get it.
  • 06-30-2013 10:05 AM
    25 going on 65
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan26 View Post
    Here is some good info about tretinoin http://www.hairlossbuddha.com/retin-...-and-hairloss/

    Also RU you can get from GB on other forums, or if your willing to spend a bit more Kane is a good place to get it.

    Hmm. I do not use minox and would not expect much fro mtretinoin, but it might be worth a try since it is cheap and easy to get. However it does seem like it would be a huge pain to apply through all the hair.

    RU seems like it might work but I rly wish it was more convenient and reliable. Like something I could get prepped from a pharmacy. I have heard even Kane shipped a bad batch at least 1x, not to mention issues with customs, or if I go traveling or something.
    However if I get desperate I will give it another look, definitely

    Thanks for the info!
  • 06-30-2013 02:58 PM
    sausage
    How many guys like me have to fecking deal with hair loss which starts at age 16. AGE ****ING 16. I was a ****ing kid. Now I am 28 and I have nothing on top, I have the hair of an 80 year old man.

    The few of us that have to deal with this shit so young......I must be at the bottom of this baldness bullshit, starting so young and now already as bald as I can possibly get.

    I either just have to deal with it, or spend my life savings on a hair transplant. Even then I am so far gone a hair transplant may not do much for me.

    From going from a guy that got loads of attention from girls, several of them hot when I was younger but now I'm a depressed recluse who has had no action or relationship for fecking years now.

    I might as well shoot my self in the face with a shotgun.
  • 06-30-2013 05:31 PM
    25 going on 65
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    How many guys like me have to fecking deal with hair loss which starts at age 16. AGE ****ING 16. I was a ****ing kid. Now I am 28 and I have nothing on top, I have the hair of an 80 year old man.

    The few of us that have to deal with this shit so young......I must be at the bottom of this baldness bullshit, starting so young and now already as bald as I can possibly get.

    I either just have to deal with it, or spend my life savings on a hair transplant. Even then I am so far gone a hair transplant may not do much for me.

    From going from a guy that got loads of attention from girls, several of them hot when I was younger but now I'm a depressed recluse who has had no action or relationship for fecking years now.

    I might as well shoot my self in the face with a shotgun.

    Wow man. I am truly very sorry to hear about that. When I noticed hair loss in my early 20s it hit me hard, in fact it almost destroyed me, but I can not imagine having it at 16. That is really some bullsh*t

    I know what you probably will say to this but have you considered wearing hair? It sounds like you are a good looking guy with the drawback of MPB. Maybe wearing a system would help get your confidence back?

    I think Spencer once mentioned a guy on the show who wears hair just so he can feel good about himself in public, but is paranoid to be found out, so literally all of the sex he has is with escorts. It sounds kind of depressing but, is that necessarily worse than being a recluse and never going out? I was a recluse as well for th majority of my mid 20s and it was horrible, the worst period of my life definitely

    Either way I wish you the best. Rly hope we have some solid breakthroughs in the next few years.
  • 06-30-2013 07:37 PM
    BigThinker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    How many guys like me have to fecking deal with hair loss which starts at age 16. AGE ****ING 16. I was a ****ing kid. Now I am 28 and I have nothing on top, I have the hair of an 80 year old man.

    The few of us that have to deal with this shit so young......I must be at the bottom of this baldness bullshit, starting so young and now already as bald as I can possibly get.

    I either just have to deal with it, or spend my life savings on a hair transplant. Even then I am so far gone a hair transplant may not do much for me.

    From going from a guy that got loads of attention from girls, several of them hot when I was younger but now I'm a depressed recluse who has had no action or relationship for fecking years now.

    I might as well shoot my self in the face with a shotgun.

    Is lack of motivation and attention from women due purely to the absence of hair?

    How's your headshape? Lifting sounds like the only option.

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