Public Apology to Spex

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  • 04-22-2013 05:21 PM
    Kirby_
    Public Apology to Spex
    A while ago I have been saying some unfortunate and untrue things about Spex which he may have found offensive. I wish to both retract all attacks upon his person and explain why the attacks unfortunately happened.

    I have been in a frail mental state recently after my several unsuccessful and frustrating attempts to get my own GP to both recognise my AGA hair loss (as diagnosed privately by an excellent consultant dermatologist) and to provide me with a private prescription for finasteride and the required NHS blood tests. Discovering less than 18 months ago that I had AGA knocked me for six psychologically, and it seemed a double blow to think that I may not get the required medication I need to fight the loss. As Spex couldn't offer easy answers for me during my attempts to contact him, unfortunately he stood in the way and was unfairly targeted by me at the height of my frustrations and psychological ill health when I was at my most irrational and paranoid.

    I hope that Spex does not take my unwarranted and untrue attacks towards him and his long-built-up reputation as personal towards him. He was only trying to help someone to the best of his ability.
  • 04-22-2013 11:38 PM
    drybone
    Hey Kirby.

    It takes a lot of courage to admit the truth. Especially when the truth doesnt flatter our actions. We all fall victim to our emotions, especially when under duress like you have been.

    What specific blood tests are we looking for? My plan of action would be to find a diagnosis of a health issue, and tell the doctor to check for it.

    In other words, to get the results you need to take fin, figure out what the blood test is, and some disease they would also use that same blood test for. Ask the doctor to test for that disease.

    Hope this helps. I am fumbling in the dark. :)
  • 04-23-2013 12:41 AM
    chrisdav
    Kirby,

    I didn't expect to see this but it takes courage to do it.

    Spex, Jotronic and other industry figures come under personal attacks by others also who have either mentioned they have mental illness or clearly have an agenda.

    I feel sympathy for them and I am surprised Spex inparticular even tolerates and can be bothered to post when I see the utter rubbish posted about him.

    I would personally not put up with up.
  • 04-23-2013 07:52 AM
    Shan
    Spex does not deserve any kind of abuse on this site, when he is trying to help people regardless of your mental state you should have known better
  • 04-23-2013 10:52 AM
    PatientlyWaiting
    I have never noticed these attacks on Spex. The only people I see getting attacked/harassed is Tracy and Dr Nigam. Maybe I am not on here enough.
  • 04-23-2013 12:13 PM
    drybone
    Tracy gets her share too. But the vitriol is manageable and not personal. They usually attack her ideas. Not herself as a person.

    I like her. She tries to help , regardless if we agree with the opinion . She tries to encourage us to help ourselves and does not put up with self pity.

    Some folks may not like some of her ideas, but they should respect where her heart is. Jotronics and Specs are acual hair transplant patients and experts in the field .

    As well as Gillian. I take their heed very seriously. Its free advice you would normally need to pay a doctor for. :)
  • 04-24-2013 04:27 AM
    Spex
    Kirby_

    Apology accepted. I appreciate you are unwell and suffering mental illness as are others on the forum. As I said in my email to you if i can help further please do not hesitate to call me. I appreciate you feel isolated and very angry and if i can try help further i will gladly continue to try despite your obscene outbursts against me and name calling for simply not being able to help you resolve your issues.

    As mentioned also if i can call any Doctor for you - i will in order to try help relay information to them for you as appreciate you are under distress.

    I have come under a number of cowardly anonymous attacks of late by an other individual ( Not Kirby ). The particular individual keeps setting up accounts on forums with vicious and malicious intent in order to harm me. Any reasonable person reading these posts can see the deliberate, spiteful and disingenuous intensions designed to malign me. However, we now have his real identity.

    Regards
    Spex
  • 04-24-2013 05:02 AM
    Spex
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    Highlander,

    You have continually maligned me for a long time with obscenities too. You recently disclosed you were suffering mental illness after a visit to the Psychiatrist which took real guts and i admire you for admitting it publicly.

    Despite these attacks made by you against me I have only ever tried to help you as you know and regardless i still reached out to you in your hour of need and spent time speaking to Dr Feriduni for you regarding your case and we had several emails btw ourselves. I did this after you apologised to me begging forgiveness on my wall.

    I think it best you simply don't contact me again but i wish you all the very best - i genuinely do. I hope you seek resolve as i understand hair loss has effected you very deeply.



    http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/attachm...1&d=1366804576

    Spex
  • 04-24-2013 06:32 AM
    Artista
    Kirby , You had post a very respectful public apology to Spex. Good job my friend.
  • 04-24-2013 09:07 AM
    Winston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Highlander View Post
    Why apologise? Anything negative about Spex is instantly moderated and deleted. The hair loss industry is a scam. Nobody gives a shit about you. Everyone's in it for the money.

    You'd think a forum centered around accurate information and consumer advocacy wouldn't practise censorship.

    Malicious, false and defamatory content will not be hosted on BTT forums.

    In the United States, the right to freedom of speech or freedom of expression is not absolute. It is subject to significant limitations and recognizing these limitations is not censorship. Libel, slander, obscenity, copyright violation, revelation of classified information or the incitement of ethnic hatred does not fall within the parameters of protected speech, and again will not be hosted on BTT forums.

    Exercising freedom of speech comes with special duties and responsibilities that are subject to certain restrictions in respects to the rights and reputation of others and will not be allowed to be abused on this forum.
  • 04-24-2013 09:15 AM
    Shan
    Get a life highlander and leave Spex alone you psycho
  • 04-24-2013 09:27 AM
    Artista
    Winston, I must thank and congratulate you once again for stepping up to the plate and taking respectful CONTROL of our forum !

    Winston's words=
    "Malicious, false and defamatory content will not be hosted on BTT forums.
    In the United States, the right to freedom of speech or freedom of expression is not absolute. It is subject to significant limitations and recognizing these limitations is not censorship. Libel, slander, obscenity, copyright violation, revelation of classified information or the incitement of ethnic hatred does not fall within the parameters of protected speech, and again will not be hosted on BTT forums.
    Exercising freedom of speech comes with special duties and responsibilities that are subject to certain restrictions in respects to the rights and reputation of others and will not be allowed to be abused on this forum."
    You cant get anymore PRECISE than this statement you made.

    Members,,ultimately it is up to you on how you would prefer to receive and perceive the medical news and information provided here.
    This is the best hair loss forum to date and it doesn't matter what the motivations were in its initial creation.
    Ive been researching hair loss and its possible treatments for a long long time now. BTT/TBT has been the most impressive up to date website bar none. Primarily thanks to Spencer Kobren.
    I appreciate all the precise information added by all else connected, as well. I wish i could be more of a contributor here than I have been..We have good times coming at us..STAY POSITIVE.
  • 04-24-2013 10:03 AM
    Spex
    Highlander,

    This is where the breakdown in communication is and the clear misunderstanding resides. Im more than happy to help you in the future. All i ask for civil respect. I am NOT a Doctor and never claimed to be one and i do NOT recommend anyone bypass one either to get on FDA approved hair loss medication. I am a big advocate of patients speaking to their own GP's initially. Based on vast experience dealing with countless UK men it's a well known fact many UK GP's know little if anything regarding Propecia however and over the years I've had countless emails from guys struggling to gain informed information from their GP's about the drug. Im sure you will have seen this trend of posting online over the years too.


    I house disclaimers on my site stating patients are advised to speak to their GP's initially before doing anything or starting treatments both treatment medical and surgical.

    Countless people ask me where they can get finasteride in the UK via email and online after struggling to gain help from their GP. I offer my opinion based on experience that they can speak to 2 registered UK GP's i know who have helped many in the UK. The registered GP's i recommend are in fact well informed and take the drug themselves and have numerous positive testimonials online and provide a great service to many. Their info is here along with my recommendation again to speak to your own GP initially too.

    http://spexhair.com/cheap-uk-proscar-prescriptions/

    I am not a Doctor. My forum signature, email signature and website state it. I simply try and help give people information, that information is up to them what they do with it. Use it or don't - It's up to them. My opinion often gets misrepresented and twisted as actual medical official advice. It isn't - its my opinion unless stated otherwise. You have possibly misunderstood me for sometime and my postings. I help people get in touch with informed registered GP's ( Doctors) , in order to protect them from self medicating.


    It is the patients own decision what they do. I dont force anyone to do anything.



    Quote:

    Do you think if I get the help I need we could one day be friends again? I appreciate you helping me during my breakdown. I really do.

    I do not want to have friction with anyone and especially not you or any anonymous individual online for that matter. I know you are suffering hence why i reached out to you as i did Kirby previously despite both your obscenities towards me. If you respect me - i will respect you its as simple as that. I am always here to help.

    Regards
    Spex
  • 04-25-2013 04:21 PM
    mark-1
    Don't sweat it SPEX.
    Spex

    Upon reading your attached image of part of the conversation with Highlander it became apparent to me that he is pi$$ taking. It defies belief that someone would go to this much trouble to belittle others but I am convinced that is what he is doing.

    You and others on these boards do more than you will ever know for us genuine suffers of this dammed condition and on behalf of myself (and I'm sure countless others) I thank you for the time you put in.

    Just ignore that p***k Highlander.
  • 04-27-2013 07:25 AM
    Spex
    It's no big deal. Important to clarify the facts, so i'm not maligned further.
  • 04-27-2013 12:47 PM
    Aames
    My comments about Tracy were also deleted despite me saying nothing incendiary. All I said was that she refutes scientific evidence that proves her wrong as "junk science." It is undeniable and has happened countless times. I'm not attacking her personally in any way.
  • 04-27-2013 12:52 PM
    Spex
    Highlander,

    I dont ask to have anything deleted, that is at the moderators discretion, or ask for back up. I fight my own battles, i'm here arn't I. People will often have and are allowed their own opinions and will state them when i am getting" attacked", decent of them too, they certainly dont have to. I delete obscenities on my wall for sure.

    I have stated the facts around recommending the registered UK GP's who prescribe Finasteride when I'm asked for help. Hopefully clarified them for you in laymen's terms recently too. ( This information was the same as it ever was )

    I'll take all your points on board and thanks for your input and opinion.


    I will however retract my offer to help you any further as i think it is only for the best, all things considered. I truly wish you the best and hope you seek resolve. Best of luck!

    I hope comments of yours are not deleted so people can see everything.

    Spex

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