So they expect Phase 2 results in half 2 of 2016.
Well at least we will know if it is safe and effective.
08-02-2014 10:37 AM
amadeus
Interesting video. Seems like they are making real progress!
08-02-2014 10:38 AM
James7
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Originally Posted by Sogeking
So they expect Phase 2 results in half 2 of 2016.
Well at least we will know if it is safe and effective.
Sogeking,
Yes although I expect the results early 2017, as sometimes it seems to take a while for them to collect and analyze the data.
He also states that they consider their tendinosis product, as their lead product (Mr Hall says @ 50secs). Hopefully this won't distract them too much from the hair product.
Interestingly, by comparison, Histogen describe their own HSC hair product as their flagship product.
So maybe there is a comparison of company confidence in their own respective products. Or maybe that doesn't matter, time will tell.
Make of it what you will :)
08-02-2014 10:54 AM
James7
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Originally Posted by hellouser
Where's the video link??
I've figured it out, there is a browser compatibility issue in the forum. You can see the video using Internet Explorer (but possibley not with other browsers).
08-02-2014 01:05 PM
Winston
@hellouser, which browser are you using to view the forum?
08-02-2014 02:52 PM
joachim
i too can't see the video link.
currently, i'm using chrome on android.
as many others these days, most of the time i'm viewing the forum on the smartphone or on the tablet. thus, the forum should be made to work on all mobile end device as well.
thx
08-02-2014 07:39 PM
Thinning@30
I think the video referenced is posted on Replicel's website. Good find, but I was disappointed that the CEO did not confirm that the next phase of trials has in fact started, nor an update as to Replicel's or Shiseido's timelines for commercialization.
08-02-2014 11:24 PM
hellouser
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Originally Posted by Winston
@hellouser, which browser are you using to view the forum?
Firefox ver. 31.0 on Mac OS X 10.9.4
08-03-2014 05:24 AM
Sogeking
I'm using Opera 12.17 and I can see the embedded video clearly.
@James
Yeah I don't think the tendinosis as a flagship product is taking away from their commitment from their hair product.
They are already invested in Phase 2. The only thing I can see messing it up is Phase 2 results are shoddy or disappointing. Which could happen IMHO.
08-03-2014 08:57 AM
J_B_Davis
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Originally Posted by Sogeking
I'm using Opera 12.17 and I can see the embedded video clearly.
@James
Yeah I don't think the tendinosis as a flagship product is taking away from their commitment from their hair product.
They are already invested in Phase 2. The only thing I can see messing it up is Phase 2 results are shoddy or disappointing. Which could happen IMHO.
I think it's smart to make tendinosis their number now focus. It seems less like science fiction than solving hair loss and gives investors far more confidence in funding the company. It’s smart and I think this will move things along for us more quickly.
08-04-2014 10:03 AM
The Alchemist
"our lead product is RCT-01"
The hairloss product, which is much further along in clinical trials than RCT-01 tendon treatment, is not their "lead product". WTF? Sounds like they have significantly changed their business strategy.
thanks for the info. wasn't aware of it. i'm not sure if they are really testing the hairloss product in germany/austria. as far as i know they already did some trials in germany/austria for the other product RCT-01 but not for the hairloss thing RCH-01.
however, i wouldn't like to participate in a double-blind placebo study, because it could be useless if you have the bad luck to get the placebo only. i would only participate if they could guarantee me that i will get the right solution injected.
08-23-2014 01:55 PM
sascha
Hi :) I am pretty sure that they are planning to do so. I would participate myself, but I live in Italy, so it's not 100 percent sure that my attempt will succed :) I am in my very early 20s and I genuinely believe that Replicel releases soon in Japan, just wanted you know about this link, since you are the only member from Germany I know :)
08-23-2014 02:49 PM
joachim
maybe they will accept people from outside austria/germany too, depending on how difficult it will be for them to recruit the 160 men who fulfill the criteria. i'm not sure how they search for such people. i thought most of the participants are students who need some good money. it's not like asking some people randomly on the streets, so it can be time consuming for them to find the right people.
they should hurry up. i'm dying to see the results of phase 2.
if they achieve some good results within the first year, do you think they will share this preliminary results with the public or do we have to wait the 3 years until phase 2 is finished completely?
08-26-2014 02:52 PM
Kudu
God I can't wait...
08-26-2014 03:01 PM
sascha
If I would have to make a guess I would say they will start the Replicel trial slightly after the Shiseido trial. On their site Replicel said that we will see result from the trial they are conducing(which is the Germany-trial) in Q2 2016, that would be a ~24 month trial. It's pretty much like the phase 1 trial. The phase 1 trial lasted for 6 month, than they got Shiseido as an investor, in reality they trialed 6 month more as far as I know. It makes total sense in my eyes. Look at Histogen for example, if you look at their results you will see that between month 6 and 12 there was a good percentage of growth. Will that also be the case for Replicel? I personally believe so, they showed evidence of effectivness and safety to satisfy the general public(okay of course not all of us) after 6 month and said "Hey why let others know what's up". I would do the same thing. They probably will do the same with the phase 2 trial. After 24 month we will see results, if it's not enough for them, they will continue to trial and try simultaneously to get a big investor in the west, than they are set. 2.1 billion people in the east and the rest in the west(I should be a rapper).
Now regarding the Shiseido trial: I believe that if they are willing to pay all the people they trial with than we will know about the results in some years(I do not believe it will be 3 years, even Replicels CEO said it was an estimated timeline). If they only want to pay a smaller group of people to be in the trial i believe we will see the first results after 6 month(length of the original safety trial), than they will show the results and attract the first customers that will try the partially available treatment and nobody can prevent customers to tell about their results.
This are only my personal guesses, but I am optimistic about Replicel, it's not like Shiseido is a joke of a company.
08-26-2014 04:38 PM
efedrez
This is great news! Not only is replicel conducting phase 2 buy also Shiseido will start phase 2 in the same Q.
It's obvious that this companies trust the product and have big plans for it
I'm really counting on new Japanese regulations helping with the time to market and hopefully we will see it available in the East by 2016-17
08-26-2014 06:40 PM
hellouser
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Originally Posted by joachim
they should hurry up. i'm dying to see the results of phase 2.
if they achieve some good results within the first year, do you think they will share this preliminary results with the public or do we have to wait the 3 years until phase 2 is finished completely?
If they're serious about their attempt to release the treatment during Phase II trials in Japan as per the new legislation, we'll know fairly shortly if the stuff is the real deal or not.
08-26-2014 07:08 PM
joachim
BTW does anybody know if shisheido was ever in talks with histogen? did they evaluate the product or maybe even did some investment in it some years ago?
because if they were a potential investor but saw that histogen isn't worth the money, this would already tell a lot about the difference between histogen and replicel in terms of efficiency/regrowth. just curious.
Awesome link, great info on how the FDA is just a nightmare. Too bad about the crowd that showed up, I would imagine more people would be interested...
12-16-2014 01:59 PM
noisette
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Originally Posted by hellouser
Awesome link, great info on how the FDA is just a nightmare. Too bad about the crowd that showed up, I would imagine more people would be interested...
Yes I agree with you Hell'
I hope in the recent Japan's law about stem cell....
