• 05-05-2012 08:51 AM
    sgilk4
    Hair Loss: There's Light at the End of the Tunnel
    This thread is an alert to all men and women suffering from hair loss. Hair loss is a very challenging, difficult aspect of life. I've even seen young men who were close to suicide. There's a better way.

    I'm 46 years old, female, and I had significant hair loss for three years. I did a huge body of research, and it turns out it's the American Diet. I didn't realize it at the time, but high blood sugar drives up the production of testosterone in the bloodstream. This high testosterone converts to DHT and subsequently thins the hair. Luckily, after three years, my hair loss permanently reversed.

    The-Healthy-Diet-Paradise.com has a hair loss page that goes into detail about how to stop hair loss naturally. This method goes into detail about the cause and solution for hair loss. This hair loss method is completely free.

    I know at first glance, you want the quick option. You want your hair back right now. With this diet, it takes a long time. But you will get results. This method of re-growing hair is extremely effective. If your diet is poor and you are eating foods that do not promote health, your hair mayl thin and fall out.

    Here's the link

    http://www.the-healthy-diet-paradise...loss-diet.html
  • 05-05-2012 09:10 AM
    Davey Jones
    I think this theory sort of hinges on the idea that Americans have higher rates of hair loss, since it's implication is that the American diet is what's doing our hair in. From what I've seen, though, it is not the case that balding is more common in America. Actually, I'm pretty sure I saw some staggering numbers for hair loss in Greece and the Mediterranean (I'll have to look that up). Regardless, I know plenty of bald/balding men from the far east (my brother is a bit of a Japan-o-phile) who eat an Eastern diet and are plenty bald. Do you know of any research that suggests Americans are actually losing their hair anymore than anyone else or anymore than we have always been losing it (throughout our pre-American diet history)?

    I'm gonna have a look at this diet, as I'm interested in health in general, but I'd guess that your hairloss was not androgenic alopecia if you cured it entirely by changing your eating habits.
  • 05-05-2012 09:15 AM
    Davey Jones
    I want to add a bit here:

    "Excess body fat caused by a sedentary lifestyle and a diet too high in refined carbohydrates and trans fats is probably the key issue in combating not only androgen-associated hair loss, but also the health problems often associated with it."

    There are no comorbidities associated with hairloss (except perhaps depression). Are you shillin' for this website, or are you for real?

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you're just naive, but this website is bs, girl.
  • 05-05-2012 09:22 AM
    sgilk4
    You make an excellent point. I do realize that some men have a type of resistant hair loss. I believe you are correct. There are going to be some men who will probably not respond. But there are many who will. I have received very excited e-mails from men who have responded to diet.

    Using methylation (DNA repair) through diet, most people will get results.
    In other words, just because you have the gene, doesn't mean that gene has to be expressed. In order to quiet the bad gene, we can use methylation which pushes the bad genetics into remission.

    I also have information that excessive alcohol use is associated with hair loss. So is smoking. I don't know if your relatives or friends indulge or not, but there are many causes for hair loss. But diet is huge.

    My point is, why not pursue it? You may be one of the many men who do respond. You'll never know unless you try it.

    I always believe the cup is half full.

    Sheree
  • 05-05-2012 09:24 AM
    sgilk4
    Okay. If you feel that way, then don't pursue it. I'm just putting the information out there for people who are interested.

    I did the research for this website myself. I put every single loving word on this page myself. This website is not BS. This is from the heart.

    I realize there are people who will never get it. That's okay.

    I'm going to the gym now.
  • 05-05-2012 09:33 AM
    Maradona
    Nice website ! I am glad you're giving all this information for free. I think Spencer Kobren has also agreed that Diet has an effect on hair loss and there is some compelling evidence.

    I think diet has some impact in hair loss and i think it was one of the main culprits of my hair loss. My family history of baldness is mild and they all start in their 40s slowly and just some of them, no exceptions.

    I seem to be the only one who have developed AGA at the young age and in fact guess where i am now: THE USA. Where is family? In Brazil with a relative full head of hair and slowly balding I think they are nw3 now in their 50s. We mostly ate vegetables, soy, fish, no meat(expensive) and a lot of fruits!

    I've been eating trash since i've got here. I am not saying it caused my hair loss but it may have aggravated it or kick started it early because my DHT levels now are insane !!!

    I am not really hoping that my hair loss stops with a change of diet, I just want to slow it down so that any treatment in the upcoming future becomes very beneficial to me.

    Thanks for this post and for saving me the time to research all of that, you have done it for us and have saved us a lot of time.
  • 05-05-2012 09:40 AM
    sgilk4
    Thank you Maradona
    Thank you for your vote of confidence. Spencer David Kobren is quoted as saying, "Avoiding the average American diet is the best defense for hair loss."

    I do realize that the page is very extensive. I learned this method because of a long-standing, deep fascination with scientific nutrition. The dietary method works, but it takes time. Not only does diet create the hair shaft itself, but on a very deep level, it controls the hormones responsible for its growth. No more quick fixes. Let's get to the root (pun intended) of the problem.

    I wish you luck.
  • 05-05-2012 09:44 AM
    Maradona
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Davey Jones View Post
    I want to add a bit here:

    "Excess body fat caused by a sedentary lifestyle and a diet too high in refined carbohydrates and trans fats is probably the key issue in combating not only androgen-associated hair loss, but also the health problems often associated with it."

    There are no comorbidities associated with hairloss (except perhaps depression). Are you shillin' for this website, or are you for real?

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you're just naive, but this website is bs, girl.


    well the part of sedentary lifestyle might also be true. I started noticing my hairloss right after I stopped playing football ( I used to play everyday) and going for swimming almost everyday. There are papers with a studies that a lack of physical activity increases the conversion of T to DHT.

    The study of twins balding at different times is also interesting. Genetics clearly play a major role, but the aggressiveness or the time of gene expression may have different variables.
  • 05-05-2012 09:55 AM
    the_dude78
    sorry to say this but this is pure nonsense. No doubt that nutrition will have an impact on your hair, but when it comes to MPB other things are in play.

    I didn't spend much time on the website but i'm guessing you're trying to sell something or just promoting to get clicks.

    I apologize for the negativity.:)
  • 05-05-2012 10:10 AM
    Maradona
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the_dude78 View Post
    sorry to say this but this is pure nonsense. No doubt that nutrition will have an impact on your hair, but when it comes to MPB other things are in play.

    I didn't spend much time on the website but i'm guessing you're trying to sell something or just promoting to get clicks.

    I apologize for the negativity.:)

    you don't get it, it's not that diet causes hair loss. It's the fact that DHT causes hair loss and DHT is increased in some diets, therefore accelerating hairloss.

    Like i've said she may be exaggerating some points such as "stopping or reversing hair loss completely" but this definitely has an impact.

    She's not selling anything either I'm still looking at the website. I don't agree with milk though.
  • 05-05-2012 11:01 AM
    25 going on 65
    I don't think diet has much of an appreciable effect on MPB, though nutrition can affect the quality of existing hair.
    If rising DHT levels (from food) was the problem, fin or dut should take care of it. Regardless of diet, these drugs will drop your DHT levels below the norm (in some cases way below).

    Think about all the 400-pound fast food addicts with NW1's and 2's, and all the diet-obsessed NW5-7's.

    I wouldn't say diet has no impact, but thinking of it as "the main defense" from MPB is a ticket to Bruce Willis ville.
  • 05-05-2012 11:31 AM
    im losing my hair region
    Thank you for this valuable information sometimes the truth is under our nose and we cant see it, i believe this method works but as you say in your site its difficult to stop eating sugar potatoes rice and the other but i will try ,i have posted a similar video here but really no one cared to watch with similar content
    it was immediately labelled as a guy promoting his stuff but i understand the immediate rejection when you have been brainwashed that only finasteride and minox can help you and everything else is snake oil.(the free snake oil of a healthy diet and some herbs of 1 dollar a month)
  • 05-05-2012 11:57 AM
    the_dude78
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maradona View Post
    you don't get it, it's not that diet causes hair loss. It's the fact that DHT causes hair loss and DHT is increased in some diets, therefore accelerating hairloss.

    Like i've said she may be exaggerating some points such as "stopping or reversing hair loss completely" but this definitely has an impact.

    She's not selling anything either I'm still looking at the website. I don't agree with milk though.

    I still don't think it will do you any good. My diet consists mainly of fish veggies and nuts, sometimes chicken or turkey and virtually no refined carbohydrates or trans fat and I do cross fit 3-4 times a week. My life style has been like this for maybe 3 years now and yet I still suffer from MPB.

    Of course I can't know for sure, if my hair loss would be worse if my diet were different, but I don't think so. I'll keep taking my daily dosage of fin ;)
  • 05-05-2012 12:03 PM
    Maradona
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the_dude78 View Post
    I still don't think it will do you any good. My diet consists mainly of fish veggies and nuts, sometimes chicken or turkey and virtually no refined carbohydrates or trans fat and I do cross fit 3-4 times a week. My life style has been like this for maybe 3 years now and yet I still suffer from MPB.

    Of course I can't know for sure, if my hair loss would be worse if my diet were different, but I don't think so. I'll keep taking my daily dosage of fin ;)

    I think it WOULD be ;). It will do some good to some people and not good to some people just like fin. I wish I could take fin like all of you.
  • 05-05-2012 01:10 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the_dude78 View Post
    sorry to say this but this is pure nonsense. No doubt that nutrition will have an impact on your hair, but when it comes to MPB other things are in play.

    I didn't spend much time on the website but i'm guessing you're trying to sell something or just promoting to get clicks.

    I apologize for the negativity.:)

    I find it intestesting that when the truth is presented, it's shot down. I built this page because I was taken advantage of by hair loss charlatans. Of course I want clicks to my website. I wouldn't have built it otherwise. But the information is true, free and powerful. It took me three years to figure out the hair loss diet connection. If you dismiss it, you are literally throwing away three years of research. You said you didn't spend much time on it. Maybe you need to take another look.

    Also, you yourself are on Spencer David Kobren's website. I quote him about four times from his book "The Bald Truth." This information is geared toward men, written by a man. Also, Dr. Barry Sears gives information related to hormones, diet and hair loss.

    I do think this diet is very effective for early shedding and balding in males. I do not know the outcome of men with advanced balding.

    I think you would believe me more if I was male. Gary Null, Ph.D did an 18-month hair study for people with thinning and balding hair. Out of 150 people, only seven finished. The seven remaining people completely reversed their hair thinning, and had "thick shiny new hair." By the way, the average reversal time is one year.

    Many people are unwilling to make the necessary changes it takes to reverse hair loss. This diet is very hard. No fast food, no trash or boxed foods. It will turn your life upside down. In a good way, of course.
  • 05-05-2012 01:14 PM
    the_dude78
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maradona View Post
    I think it WOULD be ;)


    Yes :D I shall never know since I dare not put it to the test :D But yes everything is worth the shot when it comes to fighting hair loss :)
  • 05-05-2012 01:19 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by im losing my hair region View Post
    Thank you for this valuable information sometimes the truth is under our nose and we cant see it, i believe this method works but as you say in your site its difficult to stop eating sugar potatoes rice and the other but i will try ,i have posted a similar video here but really no one cared to watch with similar content
    it was immediately labelled as a guy promoting his stuff but i understand the immediate rejection when you have been brainwashed that only finasteride and minox can help you and everything else is snake oil.(the free snake oil of a healthy diet and some herbs of 1 dollar a month)

    Thank you so much for your positive response. I hate to admit this, but I'm hurt by the negativity. By the way, my brother reversed his balding, and he's 48. He went commando. He eats like a monk. His hair took approximately six to eight months to fully grow back. I guess I'll go back to my own forum and hang out there. If anyone is interested, we'll be here.

    Thanks again. I appreciate your comments.
  • 05-05-2012 01:34 PM
    Winston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sgilk4 View Post
    Thank you so much for your positive response. I hate to admit this, but I'm hurt by the negativity. By the way, my brother reversed his balding, and he's 48. He went commando. He eats like a monk. His hair took approximately six to eight months to fully grow back. I guess I'll go back to my own forum and hang out there. If anyone is interested, we'll be here.

    Thanks again. I appreciate your comments.

    You’re going to need to develop a thicker skin if you want to get your word out through a popular forum like BTT. It’s not for the faint of heart:) Don’t let it get to you, there will always be naysayers. I was also motivated by Spencer Kobren’s book to drastically change my diet and while I don't think it was diet alone, I do think that the combination of diet and medication helped me maintain much of my hair and even regrow some of it.
  • 05-05-2012 01:40 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    You’re going to need to develop a thicker skin if you want to get your word out through a popular forum like BTT. It’s not for the faint of heart:) Don’t let it get to you, there will always be naysayers. I was also motivated by Spencer Kobren’s book to drastically change my diet and while I don't think it was diet alone, I do think that the combination of diet and medication helped me maintain much of my hair and even regrow some of it.

    I know you're right. I'm a little sensitive. This is my first time doing this. Congratulations on reversing your hair loss. I'm so happy for your success with your hair. I really love Spencer Kobren. This first time I read his books, they went over my head. So I think maybe a little patience on my part is needed. Thank you for your kindness. I am working on a thicker skin.
  • 05-05-2012 01:54 PM
    the_dude78
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sgilk4 View Post
    It took me three years to figure out the hair loss diet connection. If you dismiss it, you are literally throwing away three years of research.

    I agree that nutrition has an impact on hair loss, I do not doubt that for a second. What I doubt is that it will have a substanial effect on MBP. If you are suffering from MBP a healthy diet will help making the hair that are not effected by DHT look good and healthy, but the hair follicles in the areas that are effected by DHT will still shrink and eventually die. It might slow it down a bit, I just don't believe that food will do it alone, if so there would be no balding top athletes...


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sgilk4 View Post
    This diet is very hard. No fast food, no trash or boxed foods.

    I can honestly say that I haven't eaten any fast food or boxed foods for the past 3 years. My diet consists of fish, various vegestables, chicken/turkey and almonds and fruits and I do cross fit 3-4 times a week. Am I missing something in my diet to make this work?

    Bonus info: My hair loss is somewhere between NW2 and NW3.
  • 05-05-2012 03:02 PM
    sausage
    What type of hairloss are we talking about here?

    We are 100% not talking about typical pattern baldness.

    I eat healthily and I am in good shape physically, always have been and my hairloss is definately not to do with my diet, especially as my brother suffers from hairloss too and therefore is clearly hereditry.
  • 05-05-2012 04:26 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the_dude78 View Post
    I agree that nutrition has an impact on hair loss, I do not doubt that for a second. What I doubt is that it will have a substanial effect on MBP. If you are suffering from MBP a healthy diet will help making the hair that are not effected by DHT look good and healthy, but the hair follicles in the areas that are effected by DHT will still shrink and eventually die. It might slow it down a bit, I just don't believe that food will do it alone, if so there would be no balding top athletes...

    I can honestly say that I haven't eaten any fast food or boxed foods for the past 3 years. My diet consists of fish, various vegestables, chicken/turkey and almonds and fruits and I do cross fit 3-4 times a week. Am I missing something in my diet to make this work?

    Bonus info: My hair loss is somewhere between NW2 and NW3.

    When I first started my page, I was only going to gear it towards women. About six months into my research, I started reading about men who were able to reverse their hair loss as well. I cannot leave men out if there is a chance that it will work.

    If I could change the title to my website, I would change it to Hair Loss Diet to Thicken Hair, or something like that. The title is actually composed of keywords.

    Many people have a gluten sensitivity. I don't know if you eat grains, but that could be a clue. Most of the time, though, the intolerance to gluten causes alopecia areata/totalis.

    Your diet is excellent. One thing though. You have to eat the kind of vegetables that most people avoid. Go very heavy on kale, spinach, leeks and bok choy. 50% vegetables per day in volume.

    I am in communication with a young 23-year-old male who stopped shedding when he stopped junk food. His breakfast consisted of Captain Crunch, his lunch was the same, and his dinner was McDoland's. He started thinning in his late teens. He is so stressed about his hair loss, he has never worked.


    For men, Cholorophyll, Saw Palmetto, and Zinc are top notch. And then wait and see what happens.
  • 05-05-2012 04:38 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    What type of hairloss are we talking about here?

    We are 100% not talking about typical pattern baldness.

    I eat healthily and I am in good shape physically, always have been and my hairloss is definately not to do with my diet, especially as my brother suffers from hairloss too and therefore is clearly hereditry.

    Even in the books that I've read geared towards men, they don't distinguish between male patterned baldness (horseshoe) or just generalized thinning. The men I've talked to had generalized thinning. It is my belief that for men with MPB, this would work best as a preventative measure. I would never tell a man that because he has advanced MPV that he is out of the loop. We don't know enough about it yet.
  • 05-05-2012 05:47 PM
    VictimOfDHT
    Bottom line is : If hair loss runs in your family and you inherit the curse gene, you ARE going to lose your hair NO MATTER WHAT you eat...or don't eat.

    But anyway, I'm not giving up my cheese cake for nothing. I live a life with no sex and I couldn't care less but can't live without sweets. I'm pretty skinny though.
  • 05-05-2012 07:51 PM
    sgilk4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT View Post
    Bottom line is : If hair loss runs in your family and you inherit the curse gene, you ARE going to lose your hair NO MATTER WHAT you eat...or don't eat.

    But anyway, I'm not giving up my cheese cake for nothing. I live a life with no sex and I couldn't care less but can't live without sweets. I'm pretty skinny though.

    Oh. Okay.
  • 05-05-2012 08:13 PM
    Maradona
    I really wish there was a section for diet, not only for hair loss but for well being,fitness and combat the depression that hair loss may bring.

    Oh well thanks for the info anyway ;)
  • 05-05-2012 08:47 PM
    sgilk4
    You are Welcome
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maradona View Post
    I really wish there was a section for diet, not only for hair loss but for well being,fitness and combat the depression that hair loss may bring.

    Oh well thanks for the info anyway ;)

    You are so welcome.

    Sheree
  • 05-09-2012 05:39 PM
    PatientlyWaiting
    MPB is genetic.

    A good diet when you have MBP, will be as effective as taking hair vitamins, that make hair and scalp healthier but they won't regrow hair or stop hair loss. That's what a good diet would do.

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