So tired of Non-Sufferers telling me to "get over it", "Hair loss is nothin. Move on"

Seriously, no one knows the pain and suffering of hair loss,




ESPECIALLY AS A YOUNG NORWOOD 6 SLICK BALD like myself.....I FEEL THERE IS NO HOPE LEFT.


I am not good looking either, so it hurts.....


People laugh at me all the time and say I look 50.......



SPENCER KOBREN, THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR US.

MAY THE UNIVERSE BLESS YOU WITH A GREAT GREAT LIFE......

It is not the hair that you have on your head that counts.. It is the hair that you have on your heart.. thank you

Try hanging with people that make fun of bald people when you're secretly on fin and minox - praying they'll work.

It's not easy at any age and that's why Spencer's show has helped me so much in my own life. Like he always says, there is life after hair loss, you just have to figure out how to live it. That can be easier said then done depending on your circumstances, but don't be like Joe for S.I.

Maybe start to focus on developing your physique and your career? It really does make a big difference especially as you get older. You'll begin to see that you earn people's respect and that includes women.

In my opinion and the opinion of many girls I know,

Balding only makes you look like a gross old guy if you keep the sides and back (the unaffected areas).

Just shave it all off with a blade. It's not as sexy as having a full head of hair but you still fit into a niche. The shaved head look is not the best look but it's still a look. A girl would rather sleep with a tough bad boy skinhead looking guy than a sad NW6 loser.

I workout at a Gold's Gym and I couldn't tell you how many jacked bodybuilders I've seen with shaved heads. Many bring their (hot) lady friends along to workout too. In fact, most bodybuilders I see there have no hair to be honest. Normally the bigger they are the less hair they have (not joking lol).

The caveat is they are swole. If you're an out of shape skinny-fat guy right now it would probably take you 5 years of consistent training and disciplined eating plans to look good enough to be bald.

I'm a NW2 and I'm putting in my training time early in case I ever have to go shiny.

Or save money, find a top surgeon and get a hair transplant.

I haven't said this enough: not all of us have the time, money and patience to become a huge stereotyped gym rat.

I'm a pale skinny NW5 and I don't shave my sides. Shaving them would only make me look like I have cancer. Even if I have a perfect head shape, I still think I shouldn't shave it all to the bone.

Becoming a steroid freak won't compensate for your bald head.

Get over it. Hair loss is nothing. Move on.









On a serious note, without restating what others have already said, work on improving what you can change. Physique, clothes, money, attitude are all stuff you can work on. And you don't need to look like a roided freak to be in good shape to impress.

Another thing that is annoying is when people suggest you shave your head and then mention all the famous people with shaved heads. Like any of us are going to look like: The Rock, Jason Statham, or Vin Diesel.

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I'm a NW2 and I'm putting in my training time early in case I ever have to go shiny.

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I'm doing the same.

Best case scenario: treatment saves my hair and I'm better of physically than I was before.

Worst case scenario: go NW7 and already got a head start on a career and gains.

"Get over it" is the worst MPB advice ever. Usually it is not even genuine advice, just some joker trying to put on a facade like he would be "manly" and shave his head if it happened to him. Or else it is some bald guy who looked ridiculous with hair anyway & had nothing to lose by going NW6-7.

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In my opinion and the opinion of many girls I know,

Balding only makes you look like a gross old guy if you keep the sides and back (the unaffected areas).

Just shave it all off with a blade. It's not as sexy as having a full head of hair but you still fit into a niche. The shaved head look is not the best look but it's still a look. A girl would rather sleep with a tough bad boy skinhead looking guy than a sad NW6 loser.

I workout at a Gold's Gym and I couldn't tell you how many jacked bodybuilders I've seen with shaved heads. Many bring their (hot) lady friends along to workout too. In fact, most bodybuilders I see there have no hair to be honest. Normally the bigger they are the less hair they have (not joking lol).

The caveat is they are swole. If you're an out of shape skinny-fat guy right now it would probably take you 5 years of consistent training and disciplined eating plans to look good enough to be bald.

I'm a NW2 and I'm putting in my training time early in case I ever have to go shiny.

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Steroids?

Probably.

If you don't want to go shiny, there is milk of magnesia.

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Originally Posted by FlightTL

Seriously, no one knows the pain and suffering of hair loss,




ESPECIALLY AS A YOUNG NORWOOD 6 SLICK BALD like myself.....I FEEL THERE IS NO HOPE LEFT.


I am not good looking either, so it hurts.....


People laugh at me all the time and say I look 50.......



SPENCER KOBREN, THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR US.

MAY THE UNIVERSE BLESS YOU WITH A GREAT GREAT LIFE......

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It funny, you cant put yourself in someones elses shoes. You have a certain potential you want to elevate to and when something consumes even a minor aspect of that potential it is still a portion of the whole.

My buddies say the same thing. What I can say is that as bad as we are to each other we know the ONE thing that we all hate about ourselves and seem to not knock it. My best friend was always heavy but I NEVER made fun of his weight and in fact its because of me (not me but my lifestyle when we were room mating) he quit smoking, and lost about 150lbs.

Now he has the hanging skin. I have seen it and where he hates it and all he talks about is getting it removed I talk about my HT. He finally gets it now somewhat.

I always compare it to being in a band. I play bass, its not the most well renowned instrument and mostly the butt of jokes. I never knew it though when i was younger learning it.
I told my last guitarist you can honestly understand why it annoys me because you are the guitarist, admiration just comes with the package. You can be mediocre and still get more praise than I ever will (he was FAR from mediocre tho lol).

Its not just hair loss, we are people, we are selfish and no matter what "my" problem is always more important and worse than "yours".

Best option is not talk about it with them unless you have some kind of news thats good, such as a HT consult, or your taking some med thats working. If they want to go out and your feeling down, just saying your busy atm or youll meet them out later. It sucks but everyone blames my GF for me not really going out much but honestly my hair makes me so self concious I dont want to go out and have a night life.

How did you let that happen to yourself, did you try fin or minox or was it so fast?

Denial lasted for a long time for me.

Fin and minox cant save you, and HT's would cost you a fortune.

You need a SMP procedure man.

SMP is 2000 euros every year because it fades. In 3 years, you reach the cost of a HT.

Has anybody else noticed that FlightTL starts threads, then never posts in them again?

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Has anybody else noticed that FlightTL starts threads, then never posts in them again?

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He's crazier than yyy...

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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65

"Get over it" is the worst MPB advice ever. Usually it is not even genuine advice, just some joker trying to put on a facade like he would be "manly" and shave his head if it happened to him. Or else it is some bald guy who looked ridiculous with hair anyway & had nothing to lose by going NW6-7.

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Well there's not much else you can do when you're a slick NW6.

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It funny, you cant put yourself in someones elses shoes. You have a certain potential you want to elevate to and when something consumes even a minor aspect of that potential it is still a portion of the whole.

My buddies say the same thing. What I can say is that as bad as we are to each other we know the ONE thing that we all hate about ourselves and seem to not knock it. My best friend was always heavy but I NEVER made fun of his weight and in fact its because of me (not me but my lifestyle when we were room mating) he quit smoking, and lost about 150lbs.

Now he has the hanging skin. I have seen it and where he hates it and all he talks about is getting it removed I talk about my HT. He finally gets it now somewhat.

I always compare it to being in a band. I play bass, its not the most well renowned instrument and mostly the butt of jokes. I never knew it though when i was younger learning it.
I told my last guitarist you can honestly understand why it annoys me because you are the guitarist, admiration just comes with the package. You can be mediocre and still get more praise than I ever will (he was FAR from mediocre tho lol).

Its not just hair loss, we are people, we are selfish and no matter what "my" problem is always more important and worse than "yours".

Best option is not talk about it with them unless you have some kind of news thats good, such as a HT consult, or your taking some med thats working. If they want to go out and your feeling down, just saying your busy atm or youll meet them out later. It sucks but everyone blames my GF for me not really going out much but honestly my hair makes me so self concious I dont want to go out and have a night life.

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If you are a good bassist, no makes fun of you. For example, Cliff Burton from Metallica and Flea from RHCP!

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SMP is 2000 euros every year because it fades. In 3 years, you reach the cost of a HT.

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SMP seems to be a really stupid solution for baldness. It is so obvious on a slick bald head. It can only work on someone with diffused pattern baldness, because then, you could still feel hair on the head if you touch it. And secondly, the dots would be camouflaged to extent by existing hair.

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If you are a good bassist, no makes fun of you. For example, Cliff Burton from Metallica and Flea from RHCP!

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Do you play bass?
Trust me as good as you can get the only people who admire you are either other bassist or guys who want to be bass players (usually big goobs).

In my younger years it used to eat me alive when we played out. After every show ALL the people who came up after to meet me were bass players. I hated it. My drummer and guitarist used to get all the girls and I was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better looking.

It also depends on the music. We played rock so bass is not really so predominant there.

This is a whole other discussion tho, I have since started playing again after a few years hiatus, it takes my mind off my hair for a little while a day. Until I get in another band that is and then im just the BALD bass player.

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Another thing that is annoying is when people suggest you shave your head and then mention all the famous people with shaved heads. Like any of us are going to look like: The Rock, Jason Statham, or Vin Diesel.

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Lol I actually did that, not too many posts ago.

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Lol I actually did that, not too many posts ago.

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Ran shaved a while. Some people said it looked "okay" but honest a front face picture of me was awful.
Even my gf in the end who WANTED me to start shaving it told me to grow it back.
Sucks because of her I prob wasted the last few good years of hair shaving.

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Do you play bass?
Trust me as good as you can get the only people who admire you are either other bassist or guys who want to be bass players (usually big goobs).

In my younger years it used to eat me alive when we played out. After every show ALL the people who came up after to meet me were bass players. I hated it. My drummer and guitarist used to get all the girls and I was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better looking.

It also depends on the music. We played rock so bass is not really so predominant there.

This is a whole other discussion tho, I have since started playing again after a few years hiatus, it takes my mind off my hair for a little while a day. Until I get in another band that is and then im just the BALD bass player.

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I know what you mean, I work in IT. As a result of my work we have been nominated for awards; I have had publications in magazines etc yet no girl is interested because it is IT related.

Doesn't quite have the same sex appeal as being a singer.

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Do you play bass?
Trust me as good as you can get the only people who admire you are either other bassist or guys who want to be bass players (usually big goobs).

In my younger years it used to eat me alive when we played out. After every show ALL the people who came up after to meet me were bass players. I hated it. My drummer and guitarist used to get all the girls and I was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better looking.

It also depends on the music. We played rock so bass is not really so predominant there.

This is a whole other discussion tho, I have since started playing again after a few years hiatus, it takes my mind off my hair for a little while a day. Until I get in another band that is and then im just the BALD bass player.

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I bet most of the girls don't even know the difference between bass and guitar, LOL!

ldozer;151233]I bet most of the girls don't even know the difference between bass and guitar, LOL![/QUOTE]

Played bass many years and trust me girls know the difference.
There have been a few exceptions like gene and Nikki but they are very rare.

Most girls see bass player and think lazy loser of the band who will never be able to write them a song.

Serioulsy tho this is way off topic

Swingline, I too am a bass player and I never really felt that women didn't approach me as much because I played bass as opposed to guitar or drums. I love to play 80s hard rock/metal and a person's look was really what was important in drawing women to you. That's why I hate hair loss so much: because I had such a great long-haired rock n roll look before I started losing my hair. True though, bass is an easier instrument to learn/play than guitar but I found that as long as you're in a band, it really doesn't matter what instrument you play, women will still flock to you.

Baldozer, you're totally right. Head tattooing is an absolutely asinine "solution" for hair loss. It seems like all of these treatments today appeal to only a handful of people. I've heard that today's treatments are only used by like 5% of hair loss sufferers. So let's say 5% of people get hair transplants. Do people in the hair loss industry really think that crazy s**t like beard hair transplants and head tattooing are going to appeal to anything close to a majority of hair loss sufferers?

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Head tattooing is an absolutely asinine "solution" for hair loss.

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Why?

Although I'm far from even having to buzz my hair, I still had a look at Scalp Micropigmentation.

To me, it's actually one of the most attractive options out there.

It has no affect on hair transplants (it's actually used in conjunction many times) and it wont interfere with future solutions.

Many people also do it before losing all their hair, so you can still feel the prickle of the hair they have left when you run your hands through it, making it more realistic.

When I have to shave my head, I'm going to get this done.

This look is not bad

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...George-1407754

Especially if you get a natural looking hair line, that's low enough to frame your face nicely but high enough to look natural.

I think there's a huge difference between being shiny-fleshy-skin bald and having that 5 o'clock shadow all over.

Just my opinion.

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I think there's a huge difference between being shiny-fleshy-skin bald and having that 5 o'clock shadow all over.

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Well duh.

Slick and shiny is the way to go.

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Why?

Although I'm far from even having to buzz my hair, I still had a look at Scalp Micropigmentation.

To me, it's actually one of the most attractive options out there.

It has no affect on hair transplants (it's actually used in conjunction many times) and it wont interfere with future solutions.

Many people also do it before losing all their hair, so you can still feel the prickle of the hair they have left when you run your hands through it, making it more realistic.

When I have to shave my head, I'm going to get this done.

This look is not bad

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...George-1407754

Especially if you get a natural looking hair line, that's low enough to frame your face nicely but high enough to look natural.

I think there's a huge difference between being shiny-fleshy-skin bald and having that 5 o'clock shadow all over.

Just my opinion.

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what happens when your hair grays?

This is not a horrible option but honestly what happened also when your girl says, "you would look so nice with your hair grown out a bit."

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what happens when your hair grays?

This is not a horrible option but honestly what happened also when your girl says, "you would look so nice with your hair grown out a bit."

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You make some good points, that I've already thought of before deciding this is my endgame when my Fin ride is over.

If graying becomes a problem, you can always get a touch-up done. I got a tattoo a year ago and had them explain to me all the different ways it can be altered in the future. It's no problem.

Regardless, for a guy like me who's probably going to have this done in his early 30s (best case scenario) that still gives me a good 10-20 more years without the fleshy skin head look.

And for girlfriends that ask you to grow it out, just tell them no. Lol. Something along of the lines of, "This is my look" or "It grows out too thick". Then change subjects. I know a few bodybuilders at my gym who are probably NW1s who shave their heads and that's their excuse.

HTs have so many risks and costs, I don't even need to list them out. And if you want to be really paranoid in long-term relationships, try wearing and maintaining a hair system. In my eyes, this is the only hope for anyone who missed the Fin boat a long time ago.

Have a look at this guy. Before the procedure you could obviously tell he was receding, and it looked ugly. Afterwards he just looks like he's going for an edgy look, and it even frames his face. I'm using this as an example because the kid doesn't look like a bodybuilder at all, he's actually quite skinny. I know lots of skinny guys are afraid of looking like cancer patients with the shaved look because they're not tan or big enough.

Just my take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Y0UmxJPlI

Also, the guy in the picture I posted yesterday is Max George from The Wanted. The kid is in his early twenties and barely 5'7, average build, shaves his head with a blade.

I don't think so many young women would be getting as wet over him if he didn't have that 5 o'clock shadow.

Before you use his facial aesthetics as an excuse, the guy is only slightly above average. If it's really a problem you can always get some plastic surgery, like for the jaw or chin.

I'm just sitting here trying to think up solutions for my inevitable young baldness.

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Also, the guy in the picture I posted yesterday is Max George from The Wanted. The kid is in his early twenties and barely 5'7, average build, shaves his head with a blade.

I don't think so many young women would be getting as wet over him if he didn't have that 5 o'clock shadow.

Before you use his facial aesthetics as an excuse, the guy is only slightly above average. If it's really a problem you can always get some plastic surgery, like for the jaw or chin.

I'm just sitting here trying to think up solutions for my inevitable young baldness.

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Doors this guy have it done? He's a bad example if not.
This has more cosmetic risks than a transplant. Eventually you will lose all the fuzz on top and if will just be weird smooth dots

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Doors this guy have it done? He's a bad example if not.
This has more cosmetic risks than a transplant. Eventually you will lose all the fuzz on top and if will just be weird smooth dots

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No, he has just stated that he shaves his head in the morning.

I would just like to recreate this look, and a hair line similar to his.

All the examples I see done look just as well.

As for the smoothness, I think that would go unnoticed and a small price to pay.

Maybe you are more accepting of have a fleshy dome but I never will be.

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Before you use his facial aesthetics as an excuse, the guy is only slightly above average.

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You're drunk...

Yeah this guys looks like the majority of people I see every day:

http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5f262bb2.jpg

This guy has literally perfect facial symmetry. He is the guy Michelangelo was referring to.

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Before you use his facial aesthetics as an excuse, the guy is only slightly above average. If it's really a problem you can always get some plastic surgery, like for the jaw or chin.

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I have had a lot of work done on my jaw, due to a deformed bite. It really is not a procedure to take lightly. I personally spent a good 4 months losing a lot of weight, on a liquid diet with a further 6 months trying to rebuild my stamina at the gym. Even after it is done, there is a chance you may suffer from relapse (i.e. jaw goes back to old position) that happened to me.

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Originally Posted by FlightTL

Seriously, no one knows the pain and suffering of hair loss,




ESPECIALLY AS A YOUNG NORWOOD 6 SLICK BALD like myself.....I FEEL THERE IS NO HOPE LEFT.


I am not good looking either, so it hurts.....


People laugh at me all the time and say I look 50.......



SPENCER KOBREN, THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR US.

MAY THE UNIVERSE BLESS YOU WITH A GREAT GREAT LIFE......

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How old are you? On a positive note, if you aren't good looking anyways then it probably does matter less.

i mean to say you would have probably had to use other attributes to get women rather than looks even had you not gone bald. Power, Intelligence, Wealth, etc.

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How old are you? On a positive note, if you aren't good looking anyways then it probably does matter less.

i mean to say you would have probably had to use other attributes to get women rather than looks even had you not gone bald. Power, Intelligence, Wealth, etc.

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Only looks matter when it comes to sexual attraction.

Power, intelligence and wealth don't make women wet.

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Only looks matter when it comes to sexual attraction.

Power, intelligence and wealth don't make women wet.

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Have you ever seen a hot girl with a nerdy Bill Gates guy.... or worse?

How often do you see Male models with fat chicks tho?

Point: Women and Men are hardwired differently. Women can forgo good looks (to an extent) more than men can for other qualities. You can see that outside in daily life, baseball game, shopping mall, etc.

Sigmund Freud: "Men value women for their appearances, women value men for their character" ~something like off top of my head