• 09-23-2014 11:31 PM
    HairIsLife
    Did you fear balding before it actually happened to you ?
    Before your hair loss started, did you ever stare around at a family get-together and notice other balding men in your family or even just other balding men you see in everyday life, and say "shit, I hope that never happens to me" or did MPB just hit you out of nowhere completely unexpected ?

    The reason I ask this is for me personally, I was completely oblivious to the fact that I could lose my hair. Even though my dad lost all his hair early, I never once actually thought that it could ever happen to me. I never even feared it because I just didn't believe it was possible. I cherished my hair, had it cut every 2 weeks, new styles etc. You couldn't catch me without my hair done. Little did I know, MPB strikes unfairly, and I say that because I see so many men each day with thick mops of hair, uncut, hasn't been washed in a week etc. and they just slap a hat over it and forget all about it, then you have guys like us who are dying just to save each and every last hair.

    Anyway, my point is that I stupidly believed that if you took care of your hair and loved it enough, it would always be there with you, much like brushing your teeth everyday or exercising. If you do the work, you're bound to reap the benefits. Well, that's where I lost all hope in humanity. I was devastated to learn that when I was about 19-20, my hair was packing its bags and heading south, I didn't believe it though, I refused to believe it. Whenever you would ask someone what first comes to mind when you think of me, 9/10 people would have said my hair, I was known for it and it was my identity. Now that I look back, I think the worst part about this whole experience was the fact that it just came out of nowhere. It's not like I knew when I was 15 that I should enjoy the haircuts while I can because they're not going to be around forever. I had no idea what was coming, and I think that's the worst part of this experience. So, back to my question, did you expect hair loss to come your way, or did it hit you out of nowhere and send you in a state of denial ?
  • 09-23-2014 11:36 PM
    baldozer
    Yesterday, out of curiosity, I submitted my photo to HIS hair clinic so that they can modify it with SMP. Guess what, I look way worse in that picture than I look now. Although, the reason could be that they put my hairline lower than where I would want that to be. So, I guess, baldness actually suits me :). Bald = masculine and cool!
  • 09-24-2014 01:40 AM
    Notcoolanymore
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    Bald = masculine and cool!

    Sure it does, you keep telling yourself that.
  • 09-24-2014 03:01 AM
    knox777
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by notcoolanymore View Post
    sure it does, you keep telling yourself that.

    lol
  • 09-24-2014 03:38 AM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Notcoolanymore View Post
    Sure it does, you keep telling yourself that.

    Its called, being comfortable in your own skin :).
  • 09-24-2014 05:06 AM
    hairlosskills
    I feared baldness since i was a small
    child but like you i thought it wasnt possible until i was much older. It hit me and my life collapsed after that
  • 09-24-2014 06:53 AM
    Morbo
    My dad started balding when he was mid 40's, so I knew there was a chance I might have the same faith at the same age. I was however in utter shock when I realized I was going bald in my (early) mid 20's.
    I had a lot of stupid misconceptions about baldness before that. I always figured going bald was something that only happened at on older age (after 40), like the falling of the leafs. I always figured young bald guys were either bald by choice, had some kind of disease (like alopecia areata) or I just estimated them a lot older. But male pattern baldness in your teenage years or 20's? That's just silly!
    The thing that also caught me by surprise was the fact that I was a diffuse thinner. My dad started balding at the back of his head (crown) and I had heard of receding hairlines, but I never was aware of something like diffuse thinning. It was already when I was in my last year of high school that I noticed that my hair was gradually getting a thinner more 'strawy' texture, but it never occurred to me I was getting bald until the thinner hair started to reveal bald patches at the left side of my head 5 years later.

    https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showth...527&highlight=

    However, I never had any negative or bad opinions about bald guys. I didn't think they looked ugly or ever thought myself as superior (the way FlightTL describes it). I even once laughed at a friend of mine who said he always wore his cap because he was bald. I didn't understand it, because I thought he looked fine and I always knew him like that.
    The irony is, I only started to form negative thoughts and became self aware about baldness once I started going bald myself.
  • 09-24-2014 06:56 AM
    Rodfarva
    Double post, disregard..
  • 09-24-2014 06:56 AM
    Rodfarva
    I never feared it, and never looked down upon bald/balding guys.. I was also known for my thick mop, so it was a bit of an identity crisis when it struck at the age of 19! Some of my friends were struck by a bit of karma in my eyes. They used to comment on and make fun of guys balding and having little hair; today they are barely holding on to their strands...
  • 09-24-2014 11:57 AM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    Bald = masculine and cool!

    LOL I can't believe how delusional you are. You're on a hair loss forum FFS. If you actually believed half the shit you posted, you wouldn't be here. Bald is only "masculine and cool" when it's by choice, not when you're forced to shave your head because of your bad genetics.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    However, I never had any negative or bad opinions about bald guys.

    I never did either.. until I started to lose my hair. I developed a natural hate for bald men that have kids, because I feel that people like them are the ones responsible for our suffering. Bald men who have kids are selfish, they make careless decisions without even thinking about the hell that they're going to send their kids through. Luckily, this generation is probably going to be the last to deal with this shit, but that just makes it all that much worse for this generation. Not only do we have to suffer with hair loss during a time when looks mean so much, but we also get to enjoy seeing all these new treatments that are being developed for the NEXT generation. How wonderful is that.
  • 09-24-2014 01:12 PM
    2young2bald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post

    I never did either.. until I started to lose my hair. I developed a natural hate for bald men that have kids, because I feel that people like them are the ones responsible for our suffering. Bald men who have kids are selfish, they make careless decisions without even thinking about the hell that they're going to send their kids through. Luckily, this generation is probably going to be the last to deal with this shit, but that just makes it all that much worse for this generation. Not only do we have to suffer with hair loss during a time when looks mean so much, but we also get to enjoy seeing all these new treatments that are being developed for the NEXT generation. How wonderful is that.

    Just too much truth in one post lol.
  • 09-24-2014 02:42 PM
    Kudu
    I never even thought about balding until mine started... But what 14 year old does? This sucks guys.
  • 09-24-2014 02:42 PM
    Morbo
    It's pretty moronic to somehow blame bald people for having children just because somehow a neglectable percentage of fools prefers not to be born at all rather than lose their hair. There are lots and lots of worse conditions or diseases which are genetically inheritable and have chances of being passed on. Going from cancer and organ failures to all sorts of terrible mental diseases. If we're also going to forbid woman after 35, you might say only a top 5 % of the population should be allowed to breed. Also passing on baldness is a matter of odds. My granddad was bald. He had 5 sons of which only my dad and afterwards me went bald. None of uncles, nephews, cousins or brother are bald. You can't predict those things.
  • 09-24-2014 03:04 PM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post
    LOL I can't believe how delusional you are. You're on a hair loss forum FFS. If you actually believed half the shit you posted, you wouldn't be here. Bald is only "masculine and cool" when it's by choice, not when you're forced to shave your head because of your bad genetics.



    I never did either.. until I started to lose my hair. I developed a natural hate for bald men that have kids, because I feel that people like them are the ones responsible for our suffering. Bald men who have kids are selfish, they make careless decisions without even thinking about the hell that they're going to send their kids through. Luckily, this generation is probably going to be the last to deal with this shit, but that just makes it all that much worse for this generation. Not only do we have to suffer with hair loss during a time when looks mean so much, but we also get to enjoy seeing all these new treatments that are being developed for the NEXT generation. How wonderful is that.

    By your logic, anyone who doesn't look like a model shouldn't reproduce. There are many other things other than hairloss that can affect your looks, like bad skin, ugly nose, receding chin, no cheekbones, being short, being fat, overbite/underbite and negative canthal tilt of eyes etc.
  • 09-24-2014 03:04 PM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    It's pretty moronic to somehow blame bald people for having children just because somehow a neglectable percentage of fools prefers not to be born at all rather than lose their hair.

    You knowingly set your kid(s) up for failure. Yes, we can't guarantee that our children will inherit the gene from us, but it's selfish of us to even roll the dice and take that chance. Hair loss ruins lives, plain and simple. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, let alone my future kids.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    By your logic, anyone who doesn't look like a model shouldn't reproduce. There are many other things other than hairloss that can affect your looks, like bad skin, ugly nose, receding chin, being fat, overbite/underbite and negative canthal tilt of eyes etc.

    Most people aren't good looking anyway, it's the fact that most people have hair that makes us stand out so much. That's the WORST part about it. If 7/10 guys were actually balding in their 30's, things wouldn't be so rough, but unfortunately it's not that way. The fact of the matter is, only a handful of men with shit genes actually lose their hair in their 20's and 30's. There's VERY little we can do about it and we're constantly mocked by society. Do you see people making fun of a celebrity's jaw or canthal tilt ? Whatever the f*ck that is.. NO, you don't ! Here's what you do see, article after article of people mocking Jude Law, Prince William, Lebron James, Tiger Woods etc.

    It's not all about the looks, it's about fitting in and feeling normal. Being the balding 20 year old, it's hard to feel normal when you're the oddball. Society has made it acceptable to mock us, and that's not cool. If you want to save your kids from a life of hell, don't have them. They'll thank you for saving them the grief.
  • 09-24-2014 03:11 PM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post
    You knowingly set your kid(s) up for failure. Yes, we can't guarantee that our children will inherit the gene from us, but it's selfish of us to even roll the dice and take that chance. Hair loss ruins lives, plain and simple. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, let alone my future kids.

    If you are afraid about your child getting baldness gene, marry a woman with good hair genes. For example, I have very bad hair genes, but my wife's family has top notch hair genes. Her father is almost 70, NW0 and his hair is still not grey. Of course I didn't have this in my mind when I married her, but my point is that my son may have inherited her hair genes rather than mine, so may not happen to be bald later on.
  • 09-24-2014 03:18 PM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    If you are afraid about your child getting baldness gene, marry a woman with good hair genes. For example, I have very bad hair genes, but my wife's family has top notch hair genes. Her father is almost 70, NW0 and his hair is still not grey. Of course I didn't have this in my mind when I married her, but my point is that my son may have inherited her hair genes rather than mine, so may not happen to be bald later on.

    And what happens if your son does inherit your genes ? Are you going to tell him just to shave it off and be confident ? Even though his own dad is a member of a hair loss forum ?
  • 09-24-2014 03:24 PM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post
    And what happens if your son does inherit your genes ? Are you going to tell him just to shave it off and be confident ? Even though his dad is a member of a hair loss forum ?

    Of course, nothing wrong in being bald. But by the time he starts loosing his hair, we would have a cure for it anyway. So there is even less need to worry about your son getting bald.
  • 09-24-2014 03:28 PM
    Morbo
    Hairislife, Let's get real. The risk of you passing on your narcissistic traits and borderline personality is gonna be a way bigger problem than the risk of actually getting a son, who loses his hair at a certain stage in his life. Yet I don't see you pondering about that.
    I repeat my previous post. Going bald is an unpleasant situation. Yet despite this, the very large majority of men manage to live perfectly happy lives. Again there are waaaay worse genetic traits being passed on, people on this board don't give a toss about. You can think what you want but please don't to mistake delusion as an act of compassion. It's simply not true.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post
    You knowingly set your kid(s) up for failure. Yes, we can't guarantee that our children will inherit the gene from us, but it's selfish of us to even roll the dice and take that chance. Hair loss ruins lives, plain and simple. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, let alone my future kids.

    My goal and job as a father will be giving him a good upbringing and raising a boy into an intelligent and grounded man who might encounters obstacles in his life but is strong enough to eventually overcome them. If losing his hair automatically means for him a life of failure, I'd be ashamed of him and only blame myself for not giving him the upbringing he deserved.
  • 09-24-2014 04:11 PM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HairIsLife View Post
    You knowingly set your kid(s) up for failure. Yes, we can't guarantee that our children will inherit the gene from us, but it's selfish of us to even roll the dice and take that chance. Hair loss ruins lives, plain and simple. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy, let alone my future kids.



    Most people aren't good looking anyway, it's the fact that most people have hair that makes us stand out so much. That's the WORST part about it. If 7/10 guys were actually balding in their 30's, things wouldn't be so rough, but unfortunately it's not that way. The fact of the matter is, only a handful of men with shit genes actually lose their hair in their 20's and 30's. There's VERY little we can do about it and we're constantly mocked by society. Do you see people making fun of a celebrity's jaw or canthal tilt ? Whatever the f*ck that is.. NO, you don't ! Here's what you do see, article after article of people mocking Jude Law, Prince William, Lebron James, Tiger Woods etc.

    It's not all about the looks, it's about fitting in and feeling normal. Being the balding 20 year old, it's hard to feel normal when you're the oddball. Society has made it acceptable to mock us, and that's not cool. If you want to save your kids from a life of hell, don't have them. They'll thank you for saving them the grief.

    I don't think you would be mocked for looking like that. I repeat, bald is one of the coolest look possible. Its uber masculine and impressive. Those who cry about losing hair are the ugly guys who fear they no more would be able to hide their ugly faces with hair.

    http://cf067b.medialib.glogster.com/...e58a/rude1.jpg
  • 09-24-2014 11:22 PM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    My goal and job as a father will be giving him a good upbringing and raising a boy into an intelligent and grounded man who might encounters obstacles in his life but is strong enough to eventually overcome them. If losing his hair automatically means for him a life of failure, I'd be ashamed of him and only blame myself for not giving him the upbringing he deserved.

    I hate to red pill you, but no one gives a shit about morals and ethics nowadays, it's all about looks. Here's an example and I've posted him a thousand times before: Jeremy Meeks. He's a criminal in the U.S charged with illegal possession of a firearm. His picture was posted by the state police and got over 30,000 likes on Facebook. Do you think the average looking, respectful, honest guy would EVER get that many likes on a Facebook picture ? Nope. Passing the balding gene onto your kids would undoubtedly set them up for failure. No one gives a shit if you saved all the animals in the wild or helped feed all the starving children in Africa, if you're disfigured by MPB then you're going to be socially crippled, put in a box and hid away under the bed. I get a kick out of you guys who speak as if MPB is nothing but a minor setback. It completely f*cked up my life just like it has to the many others on this site. People kill themselves over this shit.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    I repeat, bald is one of the coolest look possible. Its uber masculine and impressive.

    So why are you here again ?
  • 09-24-2014 11:36 PM
    bfjph3
    I'm going through a similar thing, HairIsLife. Rogaine didn't even slow it down, and I have to quit Fin from sides effects. I don't know how anyone can be prepared for such a thing to happen. It's been months and I still can't get over it, and noticing that my crown has started thinning has been a whole ordeal in itself.
  • 09-25-2014 12:00 AM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bfjph3 View Post
    I'm going through a similar thing, HairIsLife. Rogaine didn't even slow it down, and I have to quit Fin from sides effects. I don't know how anyone can be prepared for such a thing to happen. It's been months and I still can't get over it, and noticing that my crown has started thinning has been a whole ordeal in itself.

    I had to jump off Fin because of sides too. What a shitty drug. Anyway, how old are you ?
  • 09-25-2014 02:56 AM
    Rodfarva
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    Hairislife, Let's get real. The risk of you passing on your narcissistic traits and borderline personality is gonna be a way bigger problem than the risk of actually getting a son, who loses his hair at a certain stage in his life.

    Err ma geerd I laughed. Much truths.
  • 09-25-2014 06:26 AM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    Hairislife, Let's get real. The risk of you passing on your narcissistic traits and borderline personality is gonna be a way bigger problem than the risk of actually getting a son, who loses his hair at a certain stage in his life. Yet I don't see you pondering about that.
    I repeat my previous post. Going bald is an unpleasant situation. Yet despite this, the very large majority of men manage to live perfectly happy lives. Again there are waaaay worse genetic traits being passed on, people on this board don't give a toss about. You can think what you want but please don't to mistake delusion as an act of compassion. It's simply not true.

    I fully agree. Sometimes I wonder these guys whining so much about their baldness, must have a pretty awesome life besides their hairloss. I mean, I have so many other things to worry about, like Family, Job and Finances etc, that this thought doesn't even cross my mind, but yet you have these guys who apparently have no problems in their lives besides just hair. If your only worry in life is Hair, you must consider yourself among the lucky ones and stop whining!
  • 09-26-2014 12:37 AM
    hairlosskills
    Hairismylife is speaking of the true reality that us young hair loss sufferers have to go through each day we wake up in the morning. Its paramount to CIA-like physchological torture methods. They both produce the same results-no more will to live anymore. There is obviously more things for us to woory about other than our hairloss, i deal with painfull autoimmune disorders and a family that doesnt even contact me and ask me how my life is going, i have an opiod dependency as well, but the truth of the matter is that hairloss triumph's over every other worry or issue in a young mans life and the previous worrys become of no concern after hair loss. These arent narcisistic traits we are protraying, lets be real here, we are in our young 20s, we want to be normal, how is wanting to be normal narcisistic???

    The intensity of pain caused by hairloss is unmatched by anything else ive ever felt,
  • 09-26-2014 04:09 AM
    baldozer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hairlosskills View Post
    Hairismylife is speaking of the true reality that us young hair loss sufferers have to go through each day we wake up in the morning. Its paramount to CIA-like physchological torture methods. They both produce the same results-no more will to live anymore. There is obviously more things for us to woory about other than our hairloss, i deal with painfull autoimmune disorders and a family that doesnt even contact me and ask me how my life is going, i have an opiod dependency as well, but the truth of the matter is that hairloss triumph's over every other worry or issue in a young mans life and the previous worrys become of no concern after hair loss. These arent narcisistic traits we are protraying, lets be real here, we are in our young 20s, we want to be normal, how is wanting to be normal narcisistic???

    The intensity of pain caused by hairloss is unmatched by anything else ive ever felt,

    I was also bald in my early 20s, never gave a shit to be honest.
  • 09-26-2014 04:24 AM
    HairIsLife
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baldozer View Post
    I was also bald in my early 20s, never gave a shit to be honest.

    And you care now ?

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