I 'was' excited about the 'scarless' technique until i realized this.

**PatientlyWaiting** · 04-11-2013, 10:08 AM

It is depressing. You learn to live with the depression especially when you are like me and it started at 16. Being depressed becomes normal and you are just a quiet, sad person who may act happy/nice [until some one points out your hair loss] while trying to move on with his life. Try to fit "depression" in to your life, make room for it and embrace it as your friend. It's a natural feeling. As long you don't get suicidal, it's okay, because in the end we can't really do much about it. You can take all of these advices like work out, get a good job, etc. but it's easier said than done.

**PatientlyWaiting** · 04-11-2013, 10:10 AM

The only thing that makes me happy is knowing i'm doing everything I can to get my hair back. Although Alopecia Areta destroyed that, I am still trying and haven't given up despite being depressed. We're all in the same boat.

**clandestine** · 04-11-2013, 10:19 AM

There are people with Alopecia Totalis whose lives are more fullfilling than yours. Without doubt, it is by their own accord.

You are limited only by your own regard. Take that in for a minute.

**PatientlyWaiting** · 04-11-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by clandestine

There are people with Alopecia Totalis whose lives are more fullfilling than yours. Without doubt, it is by their own accord.

You are limited only by your own regard. Take that in for a minute.

So because there are people who are worse off than me and coped with it better, I should be happy about my situation?

That's the worst thing you can tell some one. Some one with a missing arm, tell them "Well there are people with two missing arms, so...".

**clandestine** · 04-11-2013, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting

So because there are people who are worse off than me and coped with it better, I should be happy about my situation?

That's the worst thing you can tell some one. Some one with a missing arm, tell them "Well there are people with two missing arms, so...".

I'm not necessarily telling him to equivocate his experience with someone worse off, it was an example to iterate objective importance of hair.

I'm telling him to *****ing wake up to the fact that he's creating his own misery (suffering). It's a self generated, self-perpetuated and saddening state of being.

You could take note, too, PatientlyWaiting.

**clandestine** · 04-11-2013, 10:32 AM

Highlander; shush, you.

**PatientlyWaiting** · 04-11-2013, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by clandestine

I'm not necessarily telling him to equivocate his experience with someone worse off, it was an example to iterate objective importance of hair.

I'm telling him to *****ing wake up to the fact that he's creating his own misery (suffering). It's a self generated, self-perpetuated and saddening state of being.

You could take note, too, PatientlyWaiting.

Well keep in mind you are in a hair loss forum. To log in here and tell balding men to feel better because there are even balder men than them is not very good advice.

He didn't create his own misery, none of this, we were born with this curse of MPB. We just don't know how to deal with it, and that is why this forum exists, to find help and let your feelings be known to others who can relate. If I wanted to hear your specific advice, i'd just go and talk to my mother.

**baldozer** · 04-11-2013, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by FlightTL

So, after hearing Spencer's latest episode, I got really excited about scarless procedure but then, this made me realize maybe I got overexcited for nothing:

1. I'm Norwood 6 full bald with family history of Norwood 7.
2. Even if I got 2000 grafts from scalp put in, it would barely do anything for me....especially, remember with time, these grafts will thin as well.
3. Donor area may be 'scarless' but the moth eaten effect will still be there.
4. My self-esteem has already been shattered by hair loss, and there is no hope of recovering that.
5. I've lost 12 years of my youth, and it destroyed/annihilated my dating life. So, as Joe says, my youth can never be recovered.
6. If I do not take FIN, I will lose even more hair.
7. I'm afraid of surgury, so even if its completely safe, my paranoia stops me.

I'M JUST SO SAD THAT HAIR LOSS HAS REALLY MADE ME LIKE THIS, BASICALLY IM SUPER DEPRESSED....I THINK ABOUT HAIR LOSS ALL DAY, AND I KNOW THAT I STILL WONT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

***I can't just move on and buzz my hair like some people, or those callers that call into the show and say they moved on, like that guy from DC. I JUST don't know how they do it.

Hair loss has SADDENED ME COMPLETELY.

Joe from SI, and Highlander, I'm joining your depression club. Welcome me with open arms.

I was NW7 by 25, but I am not depressed at all. Be bald and proud my friend. Don't buy into what highlander says, that baldness is an inferior trait. Its not. If someone says that in front of me, I will beat the **** out of him to show who is genetically superior! If you are good looking, you are good looking with or without hair. Many women have said to me that I look very good. Hair is very overrated IMO! If you have a strong skull like me that can break a wall, then you would also look good bald!

**aim4hair** · 04-11-2013, 12:03 PM

If you are concerned about donor supply, check out Gho's HST...

**clandestine** · 04-11-2013, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by baldozer

I was NW7 by 25, but I am not depressed at all. Be bald and proud my friend. Don't buy into what highlander says, that baldness is an inferior trait. Its not. If someone says that in front of me, I will beat the **** out of him to show who is genetically superior! If you are good looking, you are good looking with or without hair. Many women have said to me that I look very good. Hair is very overrated IMO! If you have a strong skull like me that can break a wall, then you would also look good bald!

Again, with you. NOT everyone has a "strong skull", like yourself. Following this, not everyone looks good bald.

**DepressedByHairLoss** · 04-11-2013, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by FlightTL

So, after hearing Spencer's latest episode, I got really excited about scarless procedure but then, this made me realize maybe I got overexcited for nothing:

1. I'm Norwood 6 full bald with family history of Norwood 7.
2. Even if I got 2000 grafts from scalp put in, it would barely do anything for me....especially, remember with time, these grafts will thin as well.
3. Donor area may be 'scarless' but the moth eaten effect will still be there.
4. My self-esteem has already been shattered by hair loss, and there is no hope of recovering that.
5. I've lost 12 years of my youth, and it destroyed/annihilated my dating life. So, as Joe says, my youth can never be recovered.
6. If I do not take FIN, I will lose even more hair.
7. I'm afraid of surgury, so even if its completely safe, my paranoia stops me.

I'M JUST SO SAD THAT HAIR LOSS HAS REALLY MADE ME LIKE THIS, BASICALLY IM SUPER DEPRESSED....I THINK ABOUT HAIR LOSS ALL DAY, AND I KNOW THAT I STILL WONT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

***I can't just move on and buzz my hair like some people, or those callers that call into the show and say they moved on, like that guy from DC. I JUST don't know how they do it.

Hair loss has SADDENED ME COMPLETELY.

Joe from SI, and Highlander, I'm joining your depression club. Welcome me with open arms.

I agree with you first few points, and that is what I cannot stand about hair transplantation. Scarring or no scarring, the technique of transplantation will always be limited since the process of moving hair from one place to another cannot create anything close to a full head of hair. It really makes me sick when all of these doctors focus solely and exclusively on surgical procedures and nothing else.

**baldozer** · 04-11-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss

I agree with you first few points, and that is what I cannot stand about hair transplantation. Scarring or no scarring, the technique of transplantation will always be limited since the process of moving hair from one place to another cannot create anything close to a full head of hair. It really makes me sick when all of these doctors focus solely and exclusively on surgical procedures and nothing else.

With Hair Multiplication/Cloning in the future, a full head of hair could be a possibility and the transplantation procedure could be made faster by employing Robots.

**baldozer** · 04-11-2013, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Highlander

The thing that really makes be doubt this is how your examples of attractive men are always like 4/10's, MAX. Plus "attractive" is highly subjective. Ugly people find other ugly people tolerable to attractive, whereas higher quality specimens such as myself are overwhelmed with disgust at merely the thought of kissing them.

Furthermore, you keep going on about "attractive people don't need hair". It's bullshit. What about facial thirds? What about the hairline shaping the face and creating a more youthful appearance? What about hairstyles playing a huge role in our looks? What about hair colour? I could go on, but you're ignoring basic human aesthetics.

By the way, if you were attractive it wouldn't matter if you had eyebrows or not.

Now, what is wrong with that statement? EYEBROWS MAKE UP YOUR LOOKS. WIthout them you WILL BE less attractive. Your logic is rubbish.

The upper facial third is the least important. You see boys having bangs that fully cover their foreheads, that is, their upper facial third is not visible at all, yet it does not look odd! And its not about being a 4/10 or 5/10, its about women complimenting about your looks. Women would never compliment an average looking guy!

"higher quality specimens such as myself", hahaha, you are born with that baldness trait which you hate so much, yet you call yourself higher quality!

**Aames** · 04-11-2013, 03:27 PM

I know my advice may not mean much to you, but if I were in your shoes and I wanted to continue living; I would do the following:
1) Shave and try to move on as much as you can.
2) Look into steroids. Seriously, they can be safe if you're well-informed. You need to get jacked as quickly as you can to maximize the look.

Use Dwayne Johnson as your role model. Good luck.

I 'was' excited about the 'scarless' technique until i realized this.

I 'was' excited about the 'scarless' technique until i realized this.

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