Finasteride didn't work for you? So, did DUT?

**startedAT16** · 01-12-2016, 10:48 AM

What do u mean by more aggressive hair loss?

**warner8** · 01-12-2016, 10:51 AM

so for me, fin slowed down my hairloss, but its still progressing. i switched to a topical fin bc the pill is just not doing it for me anymore.

Originally posted by jamesst11

Who among you had an opposite reaction to fin (more aggressive hair loss) and switched to dutasteride? I just took my first pill. The last 10 months have been living hell on fin. Has anyone had a positive experience doing this or am I just foolish?

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**jamesst11** · 01-12-2016, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by startedAT16

What do u mean by more aggressive hair loss?

I mean - I had a stable crown for 33 years, just a little thin and 10 months on fin and it's almost completely bald... the rest of my head went from diffused thin, but somewhat manageable to horrible diffused. I now have a pretty thin comb over all over my top scalp.

**jamesst11** · 01-12-2016, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by warner8

so for me, fin slowed down my hairloss, but its still progressing. i switched to a topical fin bc the pill is just not doing it for me anymore.

You think topical fin will be any better? where are you getting it from? I just ordered the 15% minox w/ fin, progesterone, hydrocortisone and azeliac acid from murray apothecary. It's a cream. I am going to stay on DUT and use this cream. If this sh*t doesn't work, my hair is done for.

**Ziggyz123** · 01-12-2016, 01:04 PM

What's up James, haven't talked to you in a while. I know you know my experience with fin. After a year had basically a reflex and shed 300 hairs a day with massive scalp burning itching pain etc..

I've been taking brand name avodart now for about 4.5 months. I noticed no reduction of scalp oil really and still get little pimples on the back of my scalp (probably seb derm).. However, my scalp pain in the left temple is nearly gone, but the right is still receding and has some itching to it..

I'll tell you that I feel 100% better on dutasteride and have ZERO SIDES. My extreme libido that actually became frustrating leveled out to normal within the first maybe 2 weeks. Id say it does help when fin can't. I also got dut powder from a gb so that I can up my dose if .5 gives in on me seeing as I have no sides.

Just give duta a little bit because you'll see some signs with your body telling you it's working. Unfortunately, I still shed about 15 hairs showering and another 40 blow drying.

But yeah, in my opinion, it can definitely help when fin f***** you over.

**jamesst11** · 01-12-2016, 02:19 PM

ZIGGY!!! What's up brother? I was wondering where you have been. Especially ever since my experience on finasteride, for TEN months, started to mirror yours. In my opinion finasteride is f*cking bullsh*t and I hate that crap! haha... it has screwed me BIG TIME. Are you seeing any regrowth on dutasteride? I can't believe it's gotten to the point where I am taking this, but I have run out of options. What is dutasteride powder? How did you get that prescribed to you?

**Ziggyz123** · 01-12-2016, 03:13 PM

Yeah bro, fin in my eyes is a far worse drug.. Don't ask me why, but I just feel better on dutasteride. No regrowth really.. Actually, the back of my scalp started getting thin and that filled in it seems in just four months. Caught that one early though lol. My temples are slowly receding, but the short minaturized hairs actually are growing out longer on dutasteride.

Dutasteride powder is basically just dutasteride in powder form lol. I bought 10 grams of it so I'll literally never run out. I still take avodart, but like I said if I need to up my dose, it won't break my wallet.

Before I got on dut though I took a 2 month break from AA's so idk if that somehow let me reset in a way from the bad effects of fin? Anyway, dut may be helping and it takes a lot for me to say that. Going to Wait til 6 month mark to Reevaluate if I'm doing better.

Are you on a legit generic? Give it like two weeks of ED usage and you should feel if your responding at all. You really won't see results til 6-12 months just like fin. I started getting less of an itch this month actually so it def takes time.

**Balding Bad** · 01-12-2016, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by jamesst11

Who among you had an opposite reaction to fin (more aggressive hair loss) and switched to dutasteride? I just took my first pill. The last 10 months have been living hell on fin. Has anyone had a positive experience doing this or am I just foolish?

** THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT MAY BENEFIT SEVERAL PEOPLE SO INPUT IS REQUIRED!!**

I'm just curious, do you have any before and after photos from using Fin, because I am contemplating going on Fin myself, but if it's as bad as you claim it is then I will definitely need to reconsider!

**jamesst11** · 01-13-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Balding Bad

I'm just curious, do you have any before and after photos from using Fin, because I am contemplating going on Fin myself, but if it's as bad as you claim it is then I will definitely need to reconsider!

I don't do the before after photo thing because I am still ashamed of all my mistakes and need to come to terms with that. You will just have to take my word on it. Most people on here have heard my story and there's absolutely no reason I would dramatize or make anything up... my hair is complete shit. That being said - don't take my situation as the standard, because apparently it's not. There are a lot of other people that have had the same effects as me, such as Ziggy and you can find this documented all over the internet, BUT there are tons of success stories too. If you really value your hair and if you are seriously losing it, then fin or dut is all you have (definitely try fin for at least 10 months first)... with minoxidil. It's all you can do brother. good luck.

**jamesst11** · 01-13-2016, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Ziggyz123

Yeah bro, fin in my eyes is a far worse drug.. Don't ask me why, but I just feel better on dutasteride. No regrowth really.. Actually, the back of my scalp started getting thin and that filled in it seems in just four months. Caught that one early though lol. My temples are slowly receding, but the short minaturized hairs actually are growing out longer on dutasteride.

Dutasteride powder is basically just dutasteride in powder form lol. I bought 10 grams of it so I'll literally never run out. I still take avodart, but like I said if I need to up my dose, it won't break my wallet.

Before I got on dut though I took a 2 month break from AA's so idk if that somehow let me reset in a way from the bad effects of fin? Anyway, dut may be helping and it takes a lot for me to say that. Going to Wait til 6 month mark to Reevaluate if I'm doing better.

Are you on a legit generic? Give it like two weeks of ED usage and you should feel if your responding at all. You really won't see results til 6-12 months just like fin. I started getting less of an itch this month actually so it def takes time.

I could not get a single doc to prescribe it to me, so I went the online pharmacy route (which I hate doing)... It's from internationalpharm.net, which seems somewhat legit and has relatively cheap DUT... The packaging looks totally legit and the compound is in red gel caps? who knows really... hope to God it's legit.

**jamesst11** · 01-13-2016, 04:00 PM

Ziggy,
couple more questions:
1) what dosage of DUT are you taking?
2) how did it rid of your scalp sensations
3) I have the oilest hair line right now... it's like my entire forehead is dry, then one inch below the hair line I can literally wipe the oil off... did you experience this on fin? and, if your did... has DUT helped this?

**Ziggyz123** · 01-13-2016, 04:19 PM

Dude I got mine prescribed online actually and they sent the script to my pharmacy. It's was medical wellness .com..

I'm on .5mg avodart right now and my hairline was pretty oily actually. It started going away within the first month on it. Now it's barely oily at 4 months on. It GRADUALLY started getting my scalp sensations under control. I still get some itches on my hairline still though, but no burning pains (knock on wood)..

I'd say duta definitely helped my scalp oil over time compared to fin. I have Setipiprant that I'm also toying around with now. That also seems to help a lot with the oil. I'm still slowly losing on both of these, but no where near as much as I was on fin. Dutasteride is just a better drug in my eyes so go into this with an open mind. I know it's hard because of what happened to both of us.

**Soonbald** · 01-13-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by jamesst11

I could not get a single doc to prescribe it to me, so I went the online pharmacy route (which I hate doing)... It's from internationalpharm.net, which seems somewhat legit and has relatively cheap DUT... The packaging looks totally legit and the compound is in red gel caps? who knows really... hope to God it's legit.

if FIN didnt do shit for you for 10 months and only made things "worse" even when FIN blocked alot of DHT. how would dutasteride work much better and thicken up and stop your hairloss? and I dont Believe the shit people say that they feel "much better" on dutasteride lol...thats most likely because dutasteride raises more testosterone than FIN..xD have you even tried RU in neogenic for a few months james?? have you seriously tried that? I read a guy using minox and FIN for years..it didint do much for his hair he said but he then added RU and his hair thickened up greatly...

**jamesst11** · 01-14-2016, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Soonbald

if FIN didnt do shit for you for 10 months and only made things "worse" even when FIN blocked alot of DHT. how would dutasteride work much better and thicken up and stop your hairloss? and I dont Believe the shit people say that they feel "much better" on dutasteride lol...thats most likely because dutasteride raises more testosterone than FIN..xD have you even tried RU in neogenic for a few months james?? have you seriously tried that? I read a guy using minox and FIN for years..it didint do much for his hair he said but he then added RU and his hair thickened up greatly...

I have read and seen photos of quite a few accounts where DUT worked better for people than fin. You can google it and a few will come up on different forums. Have you seen the study regarding scalp DHT levels while on fin vs. dut? Dut has a much better effect at lowering BOTH serum DHT and SCALP DHT levels than finasteride. IF you are experiencing reflex hyperandro.. on finasteride, that means that your body is counteracting the drug by creating more receptors for DHT... So, if that theory is correct, then despite the REDUCTION of DHT in your scalp, it will more easily bind because it has somewhere to go.. NOW, theoretically again, IF dutasteride DRASTICALLY drops scalp DHT levels, then despite the upregulation of receptors, there is not enough DHT to greatly bind to and impact those follicles?? - I don't know if my reasoning is off here, it just makes sense to me. I will try this for a few months and IF it doesn't work, then I am going completely topical and RU would be the first place I turn.

Finasteride didn't work for you? So, did DUT?

Finasteride didn't work for you? So, did DUT?

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