Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

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  • outbulk
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 7

    Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

    According to clinicaltrials.gov they finished the study in November 2014 and should have the final results in January 2015:



    It's May 2015 now, shouldn't they have already published the results? Or do pharma companies keep the data for themselves?

    Would like to know what concentration of bimatoprost was safe and effective, so we can make our own.
  • noisette
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 260

    #2
    One member here asked to Allergan when we will have the results, they answered him in 2016. Sorry dude

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    • noisette
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 260

      #3
      source : https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showth...-trial!/page30

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      • epipapilla
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 75

        #4
        Originally posted by outbulk
        According to clinicaltrials.gov they finished the study in November 2014 and should have the final results in January 2015:



        It's May 2015 now, shouldn't they have already published the results? Or do pharma companies keep the data for themselves?

        Would like to know what concentration of bimatoprost was safe and effective, so we can make our own.
        I think you have been watching too many Back To The Future films, it is actually March 2015 now!

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        • BiqqieSmalls
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 135

          #5
          Originally posted by noisette
          One member here asked to Allergan when we will have the results, they answered him in 2016. Sorry dude
          Allergan didn't answer him by saying, "2016" to receive the results. FearTheLoss said, "they have stated results will not be posted until 2016." I would like to know where they said this because I've been scouring over the internet finding anything talking about Phase II results, to no avail.

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          • outbulk
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 7

            #6
            Originally posted by epipapilla
            I think you have been watching too many Back To The Future films, it is actually March 2015 now!
            Thanks for pointing that out, English is not my first language.

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            • rdawg
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1019

              #7
              I believe it is mandatory for them to post results by 2016 on that website.

              Does not mean they wont announce results earlier, but in regards to the last trial, they took quite a few extra months after it was finished to talk about the trial.

              I dont think it's good or bad, I have no idea what they are planning, they could just be waiting until they can start phase III for example before talking about IIb.

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              • BiqqieSmalls
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 135

                #8
                Don't forget, Allegren just completed a merger with Actavis that was three months long. They're not concerned with posting phase II results. They have been preoccupied with this merger.

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                • Coizi
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 7

                  #9
                  i don't think it is mandatory to post Phase 2 results my friend they only do that to get the investors happy... just saying

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                  • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 584

                    #10
                    I have a hard time believing it wouldn't be as efficacious for hair as it is for eyelashes at the right concentration. It's weird that nothing has been announced, or that they will wait till next year.

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                    • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 584

                      #11
                      Everything about the merger between Actavis and Allergan states that it's the "combined with highly defensible products and unique pipeline assets from Allergan in the specialty ophthalmology and aesthetic markets" that benefit Actavis the most, as far as new drugs go.

                      Can someone tell us if there's something else in their pipeline that could potentially be a huge moneymaker? Something for glaucoma? Silicone breasts? I just don't see the demand being the same as for an effective hair loss treatment.

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                      • BiqqieSmalls
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 135

                        #12
                        Originally posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready
                        I just don't see the demand being the same as for an effective hair loss treatment.
                        Hair loss industry is something like a 3 billion dollar market

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                        • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 584

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BiqqieSmalls
                          Hair loss industry is something like a 3 billion dollar market
                          Potentially would be A LOT more than that with effective treatments. Honestly, if bim is great, then I think it makes sense they would keep things quiet until it's the right time for them. Probably when it's time for marketing and a release.

                          It's pretty stupid to go "HEY EVERYBODY, Bimatoprost is GREAT for hair loss at 10% concentration!! But we don't have a product to sell you yet!" The reaction would be from us: "Oh, well let's get some powder, mix up proper concentrations and use it ourselves."

                          They lose money this way.

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                          • BiqqieSmalls
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 135

                            #14
                            Originally posted by It's2014ComeOnAlready
                            Potentially would be A LOT more than that with effective treatments. Honestly, if bim is great, then I think it makes sense they would keep things quiet until it's the right time for them. Probably when it's time for marketing and a release.

                            It's pretty stupid to go "HEY EVERYBODY, Bimatoprost is GREAT for hair loss at 10% concentration!! But we don't have a product to sell you yet!" The reaction would be from us: "Oh, well let's get some powder, mix up proper concentrations and use it ourselves."

                            They lose money this way.
                            I think it will be great. They've been holding off because of the time commitment with the merger.

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                            • It's2014ComeOnAlready
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 584

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BiqqieSmalls
                              I think it will be great. They've been holding off because of the time commitment with the merger.
                              I think that makes sense. You don't want to blow all your good news at once, either. The merger has been great for their stock/company value. Having this sort of news in your back pocket would also be very useful when the buzz starts to die down.

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