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  • ny1121
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 4
    #1

    I have an idea, need some help...

    I own a medical device company, and we're developing a wound care device.

    The other day, one of the techs comes to me and tells me he has been doing some completely unauthorized "anecdotal" research on his own head with one of our newer prototypes.

    It seems that he's been regrowing hair on his temporal recession areas.

    It's promising, but highly anecdotal, and it could be anything. I know the device is safe, so I'm not worried about his health.

    I found this board on a google search, and after doing a little reading, seemed like people knew what they were talking about. So I figured I'd ask here and see what I get:

    Does anyone know if there's any research going on in the area of phospholipid peroxidation to stimulate cell growth factor- in hair follicles?

    I've seen apoptosis studies, and some creams mention it. My device can actually catalyze the process, with no pain, and no side effects.

    If anyone knows of the research, or has seen studies, please refer them to me, I'd certainly appreciate it.

    It might be a wild goose-chase. So I'm sorry in advance.

    If anyone wants a little more information on the science, let me know, and I could post some more information on what the device does.



    thanks
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    • stillinHS1994
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 72
      #2
      Dude if your legit then thats awesome

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        • tonypizza
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 47
          #3
          I am prepared to fund your project in the amount of 5 million dollars.

          For what would be a breakthrough in modern medicine and a venture guaranteed to make billions, this would be a very small investment indeed.

          All that I ask is you show before and after pictures on this subject of areas marked using micropigmentation using a stereomicroscope of new hair growth, next to an area similarly marked but used as a control, and the timeline of which said growth occured. This can be done at virtually no expense, since you have a willing subject, own a medical device company, and are interested in the field to the extent that you dedicate time to do scientific research on even the lay forum.

          Please let me know what you think.

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            • ny1121
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 4
              #4
              Hopes

              Is there a forum for scientists only? Then maybe this can be rethreaded...

              I am as real as it gets. But don't get your hopes up.

              Oh, and thanks for your offer of investment (tonypizza?), but we're pretty well capitalized.

              What I really want to know is if the science supports the findings.

              Is there already a study that shows that lipid layer peroxidation does not proliferate hair follicle growth?

              Again, the evidence that I have is HIGHLY anecdotal, and I'd hate to plunge resources into a dead end. It's not the money, it's the utilization of resources (manpower) that concerns me. As you can imagine, wound healing is a pretty big business.

              Thanks again.

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                • tonypizza
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 47
                  #5
                  There are several searchable academic journals.

                  www.eblue.org Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology
                  http://www.europeanjournalofdermatology.com/ The European Journal of Dermatoloy
                  http://www.e-ijd.org/ The Indian Journal of Dermatology
                  http://www.wiley.com/bw/journal.asp?ref=0007-0963 The British Journal of Dermatology

                  There are also resources which scour these and other journals to create a database.

                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed Pubmed
                  http://www.thecochranelibrary.com/view/0/index.html The Cochrane Library
                  http://www.crd.york.ac.uk/crdweb Center for Reviews and Dissemination

                  These online libraries are popular with medical and dental students more for their clinical value, but they still might be useful

                  http://www.statref.com/ Statref
                  http://www.acpmedicine.com ACP Medicine
                  http://www/accessmedicine.com Access Medicine

                  Hope this helps.

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                    • tonypizza
                      Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 47
                      #6
                      I've searched through and found nothing.

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                        • ny1121
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 4
                          #7
                          hopeless?

                          Originally posted by tonypizza
                          I've searched through and found nothing.

                          I've run a few searches, found some stuff on explanation of lipid peroxidation in hair follicles, just not whether the treatment is effective.

                          Funny thing is, I can explain why I think it'll work scientifically...

                          So now here's the problem; If there was existing data besides the "anecdotal" evidence that my tech reports, or at least one reputable scientific paper, I would consider spending the resources to confirm the efficacy of the treatment.

                          The "concept" to "market" system in the US is so bad, that in all likelihood, this theory and treatment may die with this post.

                          But I'll keep looking, and perhaps I'll assign one of the summer interns to do some more searching.

                          If anyone finds anything about lipid peroxidation catalysis regarding hair follicles, that show some efficacy, PLEASE let me know.

                          Thanks

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                            • Mojo Risin
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 157
                              #8
                              You should share this with people on the Hairsite forum.

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                                • ny1121
                                  Junior Member
                                  • Jul 2011
                                  • 4
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Mojo Risin
                                  You should share this with people on the Hairsite forum.
                                  Thanks, will do.

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                                    • NeedHairASAP
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2011
                                      • 1410
                                      #10
                                      this is very interesting


                                      somebody should help NY get ahold of Spencer instead of telling him to go to hair site... although NY you should post at hair site also because its a pretty well known and active forum

                                      NY, Spencer Kobren is the guy who owns this site.. he seems to be able to get a lot of big people in the hair industry to do interviews and he seems to get them on right as certain findings arise etc...



                                      but seriously one of the vets on here should contact spencer he's got the most contacts of anyone here




                                      NY working in the medical field yourself you don't have any contacts that could help?

                                      you seem to have narrowed your questions down at least


                                      also, Dr cole and cooley have done studies on the anatomy of hair follicles and regeneration as has a doctor gho.. some of their journal articles may help you



                                      best of luck and either way myself and im sure others would appreciate if you could keep us updated

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