REAL results from natural topical Hairmetto + Pura D'Or shampoo

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  • Albalmal
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 10

    REAL results from natural topical Hairmetto + Pura D'Or shampoo

    Hi all. Been a lurker for a while so apologies for the first post that probably looks like possible spam. Been thinning slowly from the vertex to the front for approx 10 years and hairline been slowly receding for about 6 of those, more so on the left side than the right. I've been lucky to have had slow progression as this started at 18 (i'm 28 now) so I feel lucky to not be NW5+ by now. Have tried natural topicals like Revivogen and Lamas Chinese Herbs with no noticeable success and have given up trying anything for years really. Anyway after coming across a study with topical saw palmetto which claimed a bit of success I did some searching for an actual product and settled on one called Hairmetto (pic of ingredients below) which I imported from Canada. At the same time I ordered Pura D'or Gold shampoo as I wanted to give a keto shampoo a proper try too.
    Anyway fast forward 2 months and against what I thought would happen I have quite a few NEW TERMINAL HAIRS. Which is mad really, considering how short a time frame that is. Anyway here is a photo of my left temple (make sure to zoom in) :



    NONE of those short hairs were there two months ago besides the one right at the bottom which for some reason stuck around from my original hairline. As you can imagine I am hugely surprised by this as I didn't expect much or anything really. But i'm thrilled with the progress so far and am excited to see where I stand after 6 months etc. I really apologise for not having a before pic, but I wasn't expecting much success so I didn't really think to take one, sorry guys.

    Here are the products:





    Unfortunately I started using both at the same time so it's impossible to know which had what effect etc, sorry.

    Anyway i'll answer any questions anyone has. Cheers guys!

    Alex
  • nofintowin
    Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 44

    #2
    To help you isolate which one helped more - I know your mileage may vary, but I started using Pura D'or Gold a couple of months back (at least 6-7 months) and use it at least 5 times a week. No new hairs from it, but it definitely has done something (hair feels slightly thicker + less shed). I convinced a buddy to get on it too, and he noticed slightly thicker hair. So maybe your hairmetto was contributing to the rest. Any sheds / side effects from the hairmetto?

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    • Albalmal
      Junior Member
      • May 2015
      • 10

      #3
      Cheers man. Well it does have a hell of an ingredients list!
      No sides from the Hairmetto as of yet. I only actually apply it to my hairline at the moment as I wanted to ascertain effectiveness there before I used it on my whole head. Interestingly, I can only see new hairs on the hairline so that leads me more towards thinking the Hairmetto is the main thing working.

      I apply the Hairmetto at night and wash it out in the morning if anyone was wondering. It's very oily so not really suitable to have on during the day.

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      • burtandernie
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 1563

        #4
        Someone with 2 posts and another with 27 saying shampoo works. I lost count of the amount of shampoos that could help with MPB that usually dont. They all have one thing in common... over priced with not much evidence they do much of anything except carry a nice buzz word ingredient list. Lets see the shampoo probably has saw palmetto, caffeine, zinc and a bunch of other random stuff. I have never seen a shampoo do more than clean your hair. Niz or keto is probably the only thing with even minor evidence it helps a little.

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        • Albalmal
          Junior Member
          • May 2015
          • 10

          #5
          I explained why I only have a couple of posts. Although I can see your point, it's pretty bad timing to join on my part.
          I'll take an updated photo once it improves further in a month or two anyway. In the meantime I'm willing to do anything you can suggest to prove I'm genuine. Hit me with ideas!

          And to address the shampoo issue, I agree it's much less likely to be that as we've all tried shampoos with little result and they're only on for a couple of minutes like you say. I only felt I should mention the shampoo as I started it at the same time so I can't be 100% that it hasn't played a part. I wish I hadn't done it this way as I'd probably save myself a bunch of money but oh well.
          The topical is on my head for at least 8 hours so it's more likely to be that.

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          • nofintowin
            Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 44

            #6
            Lol, 27 posts means nothing bad nor good in your context. I've been using this forum for a while now, never saw a need to post. But, I started trialing AAPE, which could potentially help people (also to let people know how easily you can buy it contrary to what people thought), so I signed up to the forum to document it.

            Results are results. I've never used minox, fin, etc. I've stuck with oils, supplements, recently PRP, and now AAPE. I just know that Pura D'Or hasn't stopped anything, but my hair feels slightly thicker and shedding has been somewhat less. Not mindblowing, but something. It does have keto, so minor differences aren't surprising.

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            • hair4us2
              Junior Member
              • May 2015
              • 20

              #7
              Albalmal, did you have any side effects?

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              • Albalmal
                Junior Member
                • May 2015
                • 10

                #8
                None so far matey

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                • burtandernie
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1563

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nofintowin
                  Lol, 27 posts means nothing bad nor good in your context. I've been using this forum for a while now, never saw a need to post. But, I started trialing AAPE, which could potentially help people (also to let people know how easily you can buy it contrary to what people thought), so I signed up to the forum to document it.

                  Results are results. I've never used minox, fin, etc. I've stuck with oils, supplements, recently PRP, and now AAPE. I just know that Pura D'Or hasn't stopped anything, but my hair feels slightly thicker and shedding has been somewhat less. Not mindblowing, but something. It does have keto, so minor differences aren't surprising.
                  Credibility comes with experience and reputation on a forum where that is arguably all you have to convince someone to care what you say. If someone makes a new account and starts linking random products saying they work I mean its suspicious at best.
                  You want credibility? Post a lot and be on the forums on a long time there is no other shortcut to credibility except build reputation in an online forum. A new account doesnt show that to me but it doesnt mean your lying either.

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                  • Herbaliser
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by burtandernie
                    Credibility comes with experience and reputation on a forum where that is arguably all you have to convince someone to care what you say. If someone makes a new account and starts linking random products saying they work I mean its suspicious at best. There is no shortage of snake oil salesmen on forums and they all have stories of how product X worked for them. Snake oil salesman wont have huge post counts because it takes too much time to do.
                    How long does the credibility work regarding drugs or natural?
                    The drugs have a life time expand since they are approved for a reason, but natural has to work directly and with scientific proof behind it?

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                    • burtandernie
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 1563

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Herbaliser
                      How long does the credibility work regarding drugs or natural?
                      The drugs have a life time expand since they are approved for a reason, but natural has to work directly and with scientific proof behind it?
                      Its pointless talking about the proven treatments because we know they work. To me the natural route seems like most men starting to go bald would try first since its one thing under your control, and evidenced by the amount of bald men its hard for me to believe that makes a major difference in the outcome of MPB. I just feel like if anything we ate could stop MPB we would have found that in the previous couple hundred years with the number of men going bald each year. I know a lot of balding men that eat pretty good diets full of vegetables so if that worked why would anyone risk taking drugs?
                      I dont know what you mean by natural but do vegetables need proof they work? People eat them anyways for health reasons. Selling a product for MPB is different and requires proof.

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                      • Herbaliser
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by burtandernie
                        Its pointless talking about the proven treatments because we know they work. To me the natural route seems like most men starting to go bald would try first since its one thing under your control, and evidenced by the amount of bald men its hard for me to believe that makes a major difference in the outcome of MPB. I just feel like if anything we ate could stop MPB we would have found that in the previous couple hundred years with the number of men going bald each year. I know a lot of balding men that eat pretty good diets full of vegetables so if that worked why would anyone risk taking drugs?
                        I dont know what you mean by natural but do vegetables need proof they work? People eat them anyways for health reasons. Selling a product for MPB is different and requires proof.
                        I think my green diet for example is quiet powerful compared to your friends and my topical also (little off topic) but still.
                        Natural products will never be approved for fighting hair loss, and you have to be narrow minded (not you personally) not to understand the pharma companies gain for our strive to keep or growing hair.

                        Since we are desperate they are going to feed on this for a long time, and as long itīs approved by FDA we swallow it because there is science behind it right?

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                        • Trenblastoise
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 142

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Herbaliser
                          Natural products will never be approved for fighting hair loss
                          They will never be approved as long as they can't prove they work.*
                          This isn't the first time I see you post here, and again you are writing in a conspiracy way, which I suppose is what I find frustrating.

                          Originally posted by Herbaliser
                          and you have to be narrow minded (not you personally) not to understand the pharma companies gain for our strive to keep or growing hair.
                          This goes for pretty much all business, when there is a product out in that field if you want to take marked shares your product usually can't be just slightly better. It has to be way better.
                          https://youtu.be/zX7I_Rw8Q0I?t=233 If you don't believe me take Elon Musk's word for it.

                          The first one to come out with this product, will scream at the top of their lungs. So far, no one has made it for quite some time. In the hair transplant world, piloscopy would fit this requirement, it's basically scarless except from the incision, and it captures the entire follicles, which makes way more hair survive, and on top of that it is done far quicker I have heard.

                          I don't know if these next drugs in the line will be "that big". It seems to me the next big thing will come from stem cell research, which is a field with lots of resources getting poured in.
                          And when that treatment/cure comes, it doesn't matter how big you are, since the opponent got a far superior product.


                          Originally posted by Herbaliser
                          Since we are desperate they are going to feed on this for a long time, and as long itīs approved by FDA we swallow it because there is science behind it right?
                          Maybe this applies to some people.

                          However, I think it is ironic that you throw in "desperate" because that is what you are if you go on something without evidence, you are running around completely blind and may seriously hurt yourself.


                          Yes, you actually have to prove your product. That's not a hard thing if it works. But, if your product does not work, if it's just talk the talk it will not get properly proved to work. So if you are a company like this, building on scams to appeal to the emotions rather than the non existing evidence you got, sneak in some conspiracy etc. full on irrational. But desperate people might fall for it, rational people will stick with what can be demonstrated to work.

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                          • Herbaliser
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 435

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Trenblastoise
                            They will never be approved as long as they can't prove they work.*
                            This isn't the first time I see you post here, and again you are writing in a conspiracy way, which I suppose is what I find frustrating.



                            This goes for pretty much all business, when there is a product out in that field if you want to take marked shares your product usually can't be just slightly better. It has to be way better.
                            https://youtu.be/zX7I_Rw8Q0I?t=233 If you don't believe me take Elon Musk's word for it.

                            The first one to come out with this product, will scream at the top of their lungs. So far, no one has made it for quite some time. In the hair transplant world, piloscopy would fit this requirement, it's basically scarless except from the incision, and it captures the entire follicles, which makes way more hair survive, and on top of that it is done far quicker I have heard.

                            I don't know if these next drugs in the line will be "that big". It seems to me the next big thing will come from stem cell research, which is a field with lots of resources getting poured in.
                            And when that treatment/cure comes, it doesn't matter how big you are, since the opponent got a far superior product.



                            Maybe this applies to some people.

                            However, I think it is ironic that you throw in "desperate" because that is what you are if you go on something without evidence, you are running around completely blind and may seriously hurt yourself.


                            Yes, you actually have to prove your product. That's not a hard thing if it works. But, if your product does not work, if it's just talk the talk it will not get properly proved to work. So if you are a company like this, building on scams to appeal to the emotions rather than the non existing evidence you got, sneak in some conspiracy etc. full on irrational. But desperate people might fall for it, rational people will stick with what can be demonstrated to work.
                            Iīm the desperate one?
                            I did not say anything about conspiracy, but still the truth is natural products will never be proven as treatments: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why...ral-substances

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                            • warner8
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 350

                              #15
                              ahhhh yess, another random member who just joins the forum, and is now touting a new product to save hair loss. when will the bullshit stop ppl. let me just say what everyone is afraid to say NATURAL HAIRLESS PRODUCTS ARE BS, SHAMPOOS ARE BS. ONLY thing that works is MINOXIDIL and FIN/DUASTERIDE. everything else is a supplement to those big 2. If you want to keep hair, use the big 2. if you want to lose hair, ground, coverage etc, go the natural route.

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