Histogen news

**Seuxin** · 05-09-2014, 02:14 AM

Hey,

If it's true, it's a good news !
I hope there are still alive and hope we could have a timeline soon !

Thanks

**hellouser** · 05-09-2014, 09:37 PM

They need to hurry the **** up if they plan on making any kind of cash considering that by the time they bring anything to market, ADERANS will probably have come back from the dead and finish Phase III.

**Seuxin** · 05-10-2014, 03:00 AM

HelloUser, but do you have news about Aderans ? Or it's simply a joke ??

**Sogeking** · 05-10-2014, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by hellouser

They need to hurry the **** up if they plan on making any kind of cash considering that by the time they bring anything to market, ADERANS will probably have come back from the dead and finish Phase III.

Hahahha. Now that is funny. But I can already see it.

This is one good in house joke. You know you have bad project management if Aderans comes to market before you.

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**hellouser** · 05-10-2014, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Seuxin

HelloUser, but do you have news about Aderans ? Or it's simply a joke ??

Aderans is dead. The project got scrapped last year, everyone got laid off, the website shut down which nows shows some kind of property being sold.

Forget about Aderans.

**35YrsAfter** · 05-12-2014, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by hellouser

Aderans is dead. The project got scrapped last year, everyone got laid off, the website shut down which nows shows some kind of property being sold.

Forget about Aderans.

I wonder if hair loss researchers have looked much into Ambras Syndrome?

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**hgs1989** · 05-18-2014, 01:10 AM

our only hope now

really people at histogen need to work on releasing it. the hairloss congress initiative showed us that there will be no treatment in the near future. even worse all things there are in the lab. who knows if they will succeed once they hit humans. we have histogen I think it will serve many people. growth factors signals the cells so multiple treatments means continuous signaling and should do great. they have the only treatment that could be out in less than 2 years if they started the trials. they should do now that they are the only players in market.

**rhysmorgan** · 05-18-2014, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by hgs1989

the hairloss congress initiative showed us that there will be no treatment in the near future.

This is based on the assumption that everyone attends conferences. This is not the case. If anything, we've gotten the clear impression that the secrecy of the hair loss science world means it may be possible there's something near release and we just don't know about it.

It's a shame that hair loss researchers are so anti academic in this regard. It's all about protecting their profit.

**hgs1989** · 05-18-2014, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by rhysmorgan

This is based on the assumption that everyone attends conferences. This is not the case. If anything, we've gotten the clear impression that the secrecy of the hair loss science world means it may be possible there's something near release and we just don't know about it.

It's a shame that hair loss researchers are so anti academic in this regard. It's all about protecting their profit.

one thing that bothers me it is that histogen technology is actually already in use in europe, india and korea. if you google growth factor injections you will see results from around the world. one company called prostemics in korea already using Grwoth factors (GF) as injections. once the FDA approve histogen this method will be widely popular. histogen only have patent in how to harvest collect the growth factors. there are many other who use other techniques. and they should work. KGF, aFGF, bFGF,IGF-1 are all expressed in the hair follicle during the anagen phase. other GFs that help with follicle size like vegf which will help in miniaturized hair. so GF technology is a big and histogen is just a small player. prp should work but the concentration of growth factors is low compared to harvested GFs i guess which will require multiple sessions but at the current price point it can't be done.

**35YrsAfter** · 05-19-2014, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by rhysmorgan

This is based on the assumption that everyone attends conferences. This is not the case. If anything, we've gotten the clear impression that the secrecy of the hair loss science world means it may be possible there's something near release and we just don't know about it.

It's a shame that hair loss researchers are so anti academic in this regard. It's all about protecting their profit.

I can't blame them for being secretive. No one wants to see others profit from a copycat version of their hard work. This happens a lot. A great illustration of this was woven in a "Breaking Bad" script where Schwartz used Walter's research to make millions:

Overview:
"Elliott Schwartz is Walt's grad-school colleague. Elliott, his wife Gretchen, and Walt collaborated on the scientific research that led to Elliott's Nobel Prize and thriving business, Gray Matter. But by the time their business achieved success, Walt � as Gretchen describes it � had "abandoned me and Elliott." Walt sees things differently: "My hard work, my research," he says. "And you and Elliott made millions off it."

At a birthday party for Elliott, Walt sees Skyler and Elliott deep in conversation. Moments later, Elliott offers Walt a job, mentioning that the health insurance is excellent. Walt whisks Skyler out of the party and accuses her of putting Elliott up to providing charity: When Walt turned down the job offer, Elliott offered to pay for his treatment outright.

Walt later lies to Skyler and says that Elliott is indeed paying for his cancer treatments, though in fact Walt's drug profits are financing it. His deception goes undetected until Skyler, who calls Gretchen trying to figure out why Walt had a second cell phone, learns that Elliott contributed nothing."

Men and women of course have their pride in accomplishment and seriously don't want anyone to profit from their research/ideas/inventions.

Fiction, yes, but this kind of thing happens time and time again.

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**rhysmorgan** · 05-19-2014, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by 35YrsAfter

I can't blame them for being secretive. No one wants to see others profit from a copycat version of their hard work. This happens a lot. A great illustration of this was woven in a "Breaking Bad" script where Schwartz used Walter's research to make millions:

Overview:
"Elliott Schwartz is Walt's grad-school colleague. Elliott, his wife Gretchen, and Walt collaborated on the scientific research that led to Elliott's Nobel Prize and thriving business, Gray Matter. But by the time their business achieved success, Walt � as Gretchen describes it � had "abandoned me and Elliott." Walt sees things differently: "My hard work, my research," he says. "And you and Elliott made millions off it."

At a birthday party for Elliott, Walt sees Skyler and Elliott deep in conversation. Moments later, Elliott offers Walt a job, mentioning that the health insurance is excellent. Walt whisks Skyler out of the party and accuses her of putting Elliott up to providing charity: When Walt turned down the job offer, Elliott offered to pay for his treatment outright.

Walt later lies to Skyler and says that Elliott is indeed paying for his cancer treatments, though in fact Walt's drug profits are financing it. His deception goes undetected until Skyler, who calls Gretchen trying to figure out why Walt had a second cell phone, learns that Elliott contributed nothing."

Men and women of course have their pride in accomplishment and seriously don't want anyone to profit from their research/ideas/inventions.

Fiction, yes, but this kind of thing happens time and time again.

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The contents of my posts are my opinions and not medical advice
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Sure, just think it's a shame, that's all. Not really heavily criticising them for it, just an observation really. Anyway you look at it though, it is anti academic.

**FearTheLoss** · 06-16-2014, 11:25 PM

histogen is done...even spencer knows it. he said in one of his last shows that our only hope for the next five years is bim

**hellouser** · 06-17-2014, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by FearTheLoss

histogen is done...even spencer knows it. he said in one of his last shows that our only hope for the next five years is bim

Reasoning?

**FearTheLoss** · 06-17-2014, 11:07 AM

It's fairly obvious. They haven't had a press release about it in over a year. They lost their investor and never gained another one.

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