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  • verver
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 36

    Can someone aware me of these future treatments ?

    i rarely follow the news about hair loss because most of the time "scientists" promise us a cure in 2 years but it's just bullshit 100% of the time

    i'm most interested about CB 03 01 and RU 58841
    when are they going to finish the clinical trials for these 2 compounds ?
    are there guys here who are using them with success ?
    Is there any news about this doctor Mousseigne who can supposedly clone hairs ?
  • BudskiiHD
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 121

    #2
    Originally posted by verver
    i rarely follow the news about hair loss because most of the time "scientists" promise us a cure in 2 years but it's just bullshit 100% of the time

    i'm most interested about CB 03 01 and RU 58841
    when are they going to finish the clinical trials for these 2 compounds ?
    are there guys here who are using them with success ?
    Is there any news about this doctor Mousseigne who can supposedly clone hairs ?
    RU58841 will never reach the market.

    They said realistic year for cb-03-01 for AGA will be 2017. Although, if acne reaches market earlier, we can just rub that on our scalps.

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    • Notcoolanymore
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 2246

      #3
      I hear something big is going to happen within the next two years.

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      • Thinning87
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 839

        #4
        No something big is going to happen within the next two days

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        • UK_
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2691

          #5
          Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
          I hear something big is going to happen within the next two years.
          Yeah, NOTHING, that's quite "big" in hair loss research.

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          • boourns
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 31

            #6
            I hate to believe it but a cure for hair loss in the near future seems unlikely given the fact that there hasn't been a cure for anything in the last half century. As long as the pharmaceutical companies run the show there isn't going to be a cure. At best they will come out with something better than finasteride or rogaine but they will make sure you have to use it for the rest of your life.

            If there were drugs to make your eye vision better there would never be laser eye surgery.

            But you know what, who knows. Anything can happen.

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            • Notcoolanymore
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 2246

              #7
              Originally posted by boourns
              I hate to believe it but a cure for hair loss in the near future seems unlikely given the fact that there hasn't been a cure for anything in the last half century. As long as the pharmaceutical companies run the show there isn't going to be a cure. At best they will come out with something better than finasteride or rogaine but they will make sure you have to use it for the rest of your life.

              If there were drugs to make your eye vision better there would never be laser eye surgery.

              But you know what, who knows. Anything can happen.
              +1

              There is no money in having a treatment that you only need to take once and be cured. The money is in treatment that is ongoing.

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              • verver
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 36

                #8
                i think in 5 years baldness will be something of the past with CB 03 01 and hairs regenerations technique anyone with a NW3-4 ( and possibly more) will have a full head of hairs don't you agree ?

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                • yan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 156

                  #9
                  Originally posted by verver
                  i think in 5 years baldness will be something of the past with CB 03 01 and hairs regenerations technique anyone with a NW3-4 ( and possibly more) will have a full head of hairs don't you agree ?
                  If CB works, then yes. Unfortunately not for all (>NW4).

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                  • B Jensen
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 5

                    #10
                    I don't know anything about RU 58841 but I have high hopes for CB. That being said, I had high hopes for Histogen as well but they certainly haven't met expectations from what I have seen yet.

                    Also, I don't believe in the whole pharmaceutical conspiracy. While I certainly agree that some in the industry are unethical to some extent, I doubt that they are actually preventing a hair loss cure from reaching the market. Fin was discovered to cure hair loss when it was being tested for something else (prostate cancer I think). Fin is the best hair loss med on the market except for dut (which from what I understand is basically just much stronger fin) and we didn't even develop it for hair loss! I think this just goes to show how hard it is to treat a genetic disorder.

                    It seems to me that the only way we will achieve a "cure" for MPB is by addressing the issue in a genetic manner and the earliest estimates I hear for being able to do this are 8-10 years away. That being said, I think in the near future (within 5 years) we should have some new treatments (hist, cb, pgd2, etc) that should at the very least slow MPB down to almost a standstill if not halt it completely.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #11
                      Originally posted by B Jensen
                      I don't know anything about RU 58841 but I have high hopes for CB. That being said, I had high hopes for Histogen as well but they certainly haven't met expectations from what I have seen yet.

                      Also, I don't believe in the whole pharmaceutical conspiracy. While I certainly agree that some in the industry are unethical to some extent, I doubt that they are actually preventing a hair loss cure from reaching the market. Fin was discovered to cure hair loss when it was being tested for something else (prostate cancer I think). Fin is the best hair loss med on the market except for dut (which from what I understand is basically just much stronger fin) and we didn't even develop it for hair loss! I think this just goes to show how hard it is to treat a genetic disorder.

                      It seems to me that the only way we will achieve a "cure" for MPB is by addressing the issue in a genetic manner and the earliest estimates I hear for being able to do this are 8-10 years away. That being said, I think in the near future (within 5 years) we should have some new treatments (hist, cb, pgd2, etc) that should at the very least slow MPB down to almost a standstill if not halt it completely.
                      Guh?

                      Can you name me another company that's had two successful clinical trials?

                      Didnt think so....

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                      • verver
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 36

                        #12
                        Originally posted by yan
                        If CB works, then yes. Unfortunately not for all (>NW4).
                        why if it work ? I thought it worked wonder ?

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                        • B Jensen
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 5

                          #13
                          Originally posted by UK_
                          Guh?

                          Can you name me another company that's had two successful clinical trials?

                          Didnt think so....
                          That wasn't quite what I meant. I phrased it poorly.

                          I was referring to Histogen not being the treatment some people imagined. Verver posted that baldness may be a thing of the past when CB comes out. In 2012 some people (myself included) believed that baldness would be a thing of the past (for NW<4 or so) when Histogen came out. This doesn't look to be the case with Histogen (although it will likely still be an improved treatment over what we have now) and it may very well be the case when CB comes out as well.

                          This was an unrealistic belief to have in the first place though. If you don't have realistic expectations when it comes to hair loss, you are just going to end up disappointed for a long time. Once again, I have high hopes for CB and perhaps it will make baldness a thing of the past when it comes out. But more realistically, I think that it will just be another treatment, which is a good thing!

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                          • verver
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 36

                            #14
                            Originally posted by B Jensen
                            That wasn't quite what I meant. I phrased it poorly.

                            I was referring to Histogen not being the treatment some people imagined. Verver posted that baldness may be a thing of the past when CB comes out. In 2012 some people (myself included) believed that baldness would be a thing of the past (for NW<4 or so) when Histogen came out. This doesn't look to be the case with Histogen (although it will likely still be an improved treatment over what we have now) and it may very well be the case when CB comes out as well.

                            This was an unrealistic belief to have in the first place though. If you don't have realistic expectations when it comes to hair loss, you are just going to end up disappointed for a long time. Once again, I have high hopes for CB and perhaps it will make baldness a thing of the past when it comes out. But more realistically, I think that it will just be another treatment, which is a good thing!
                            is it true that you only have to use it once a week ?
                            what are the result of the people who are using it actualy ?

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                            • yan
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 156

                              #15
                              Originally posted by verver
                              is it true that you only have to use it once a week ?
                              what are the result of the people who are using it actualy ?
                              It will most likely be a once a day treatment.

                              The problem is the vehicle. People are currently experimenting different vehicles. Cosmo tested CB via iontophoresis, which gave incredible results (40 - 50&#37; more hairs), but we cant use it this way.
                              In early 2015, cosmo will finish proof of concept (phase 2a) for CB. So by then we will know for sure how great CB is as a topical.

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