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  • Recederrr
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 16
    #1

    21. Losing hair/receding for a year now. (Pics included) Tips/advice?

    Hey guys,

    Been receding hard recently so thought I should start posting and get in the know. Pics included are from a year ago btw so have lost more hair and receded since then. Thing is though, with a long cut I can still hide it and look okay. Would love to maintain!!

    Been using Niz 2% twice a week to help with the itch/dandruff and in the hope it will fight DHT a bit. I have thick/coarse hair though and it really dries it out and makes it unhealthy. Shame as it helps with the itch a lot and does make the hair look thicker for a day or two. Should I consider Regenepure/Revita? And which is better? Bit concerned as they seem like expensive snake oil shampoos from reading reports on here... Also what is the best daily/regular shampoo?

    Trying to avoid Fin/Minox for now due to the sides. I know Minox isn't too bad but apparently it only works for a year or two? What are the best supps to take? I've ordered a multivitamin with biotin but have read on here that MSM/some special vitamin E formulation (can't remember proper name ha) can help?

    Thanks for reading. Any thoughts/comments welcome.
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    • PatientlyWaiting
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1637
      #2
      From what you listed, the only thing that is proven to fight male pattern baldness is Nizoral.

      For a regular shampoo use something with no SLS.

      Biotin, MSM, multivitamins are not known to slow down, stop or regrow hair in men with MPB. But for the the overall health of hair Biotin and MSM are good, and a multivitamin is good for your health.

      You say you're trying to stay away from finasteride and minoxidil, but just know that those are two most proven hair loss treatments for MPB.

      I can't really suggest anything else. Stay with Nizoral 2% and try a natural route. But like I said yesterday, waiting is the worst thing you can do with MPB. In the pictures you showed however, I don't see much frontal balding, if any at all but you say it has gotten worse now.

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        • PatientlyWaiting
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1637
          #3
          Okay, I see some receding in the temples.

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            • Recederrr
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 16
              #4
              Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
              From what you listed, the only thing that is proven to fight male pattern baldness is Nizoral.

              For a regular shampoo use something with no SLS.

              Biotin, MSM, multivitamins are not known to slow down, stop or regrow hair in men with MPB. But for the the overall health of hair Biotin and MSM are good, and a multivitamin is good for your health.

              You say you're trying to stay away from finasteride and minoxidil, but just know that those are two most proven hair loss treatments for MPB.

              I can't really suggest anything else. Stay with Nizoral 2% and try a natural route. But like I said yesterday, waiting is the worst thing you can do with MPB. In the pictures you showed however, I don't see much frontal balding, if any at all but you say it has gotten worse now.
              Thanks for the reply.

              I have ordered some natural shampoos with no SLS. Went for the jason natural ones with biotin because they are cheap. Nizoral 2% worked really well for a bit but now not so much. Scalp itches a day after using it and my hair is so dry/coarse. Maybe I overused it. But that is why I was asking about regenepure/revita.

              Noted that biotin/msm are not proven to slow down hair loss. Are there any natural supps that are effective in any way? I cannot risk the libido/impotence issues of finasteride at 21. Might have to consider minoxidil...

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                • Recederrr
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16
                  #5
                  Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                  Okay, I see some receding in the temples.
                  Definitely something going on. My fringe grows so slow. I get a grade 1 or 2 on the back/sides everytime and tell the barber not to touch the length on top. After 6 weeks the back/sides are the same length as on top!

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                    • Woodyy
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 112
                      #6
                      Just try fin, honestly I really thought I was going to get sides as well but as of yet I'm completely fine.

                      Unless someone has frequented sites like this they wouldn't think you're suffering from even the slighest amount of hairloss and fin will almost definitely retain what you've got for years to come.

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                        • Recederrr
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Woodyy
                          Just try fin, honestly I really thought I was going to get sides as well but as of yet I'm completely fine.

                          Unless someone has frequented sites like this they wouldn't think you're suffering from even the slighest amount of hairloss and fin will almost definitely retain what you've got for years to come.
                          Hmmm you were lucky though right to get no sides? I can't take the risk. Would rather save up for a hair transplant personally

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                            • PatientlyWaiting
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1637
                              #8
                              I don't know about proven natural MPB treatments. But supposedly, Taurine, Green Tea Extract, Grapeseed extract, zinc, emu oil, are good to fight hair loss. But then again I never used these, and would never use them without being fin and minoxidil, which I think would be pointless because then I would not know what's working.

                              About Woodyy being lucky that he did not get sides, no, I don't think so. You are actually unlucky if you get sides.

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                                • Recederrr
                                  Junior Member
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 16
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
                                  I don't know about proven natural MPB treatments. But supposedly, Taurine, Green Tea Extract, Grapeseed extract, zinc, emu oil, are good to fight hair loss. But then again I never used these, and would never use them without being fin and minoxidil, which I think would be pointless because then I would not know what's working.

                                  About Woodyy being lucky that he did not get sides, no, I don't think so. You are actually unlucky if you get sides.
                                  Thanks man, will check out those items you mentioned. I'm NW1.5 or so atm so experimenting first i guess.

                                  Really? I have seen countless times people complaining of libido/penis problems on here.

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                                    • chrisis
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Feb 2012
                                      • 1257
                                      #10
                                      Where was it reported that minoxidil only lasts a year? It takes a year before you can even review its full result, let alone that being the entire time span of its overall effectiveness.

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                                        • Tracy C
                                          Senior Member
                                          • Sep 2011
                                          • 3083
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by chrisis
                                          Where was it reported that minoxidil only lasts a year?
                                          There are many who believe Minoxidil only lasts for a year or two. I guess they read it on the internet - and you know if it's on the internet it has to be true. Hahaha

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                                            • Tracy C
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Sep 2011
                                              • 3083
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Recederrr
                                              I have ordered some natural shampoos with no SLS.
                                              For future reference, you can buy sulfate free shampoo and conditioner in your local stores. There is no need to shop for anything special or high priced. Just make sure it's sulfate free.

                                              Since you have the 2% prescription strength Nizoral, you should only use that once a week. Not twice a week.

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                                                • bobbyt
                                                  Junior Member
                                                  • Jun 2012
                                                  • 29
                                                  #13
                                                  I settled on the twice per week approach re using Nizoral 2%. From memory several fin studies that produced good results had their participants use it 2-4 times per week. There were also a lot of guys that used it twice per week when I was scowering forums when I first started to think about any kind of HL treatment (although to be fair you will likely find the same number of posts suggesting using Niz once per week, or every other day etc!).

                                                  Anyway I started that (2% Niz twice a week) around 15 months ago and believe it has helped me.

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                                                    • drybone
                                                      Senior Member
                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                      • 867
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by chrisis
                                                      Where was it reported that minoxidil only lasts a year? It takes a year before you can even review its full result, let alone that being the entire time span of its overall effectiveness.
                                                      Hey Chris

                                                      I was under the impression that it takes a year and the effects can last decades.

                                                      I am still on the fence about it but may start on it soon.

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                                                        • PatientlyWaiting
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Jan 2011
                                                          • 1637
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by drybone
                                                          Hey Chris

                                                          I was under the impression that it takes a year and the effects can last decades.

                                                          I am still on the fence about it but may start on it soon.
                                                          He's saying it does in deed take a year to even see results and that thinking Rogaine's effects only last 1 year is absurd.

                                                          Get on it. You are already on fin aren't you?

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