Although what I am doing is different than you, it shows that Natural methods work.
Here is the discouragement I heard back in march, good thing I didn't listen or I wouldn't be able to post this picture today:
3/21/2017
JeanlucBergman: From what I can see with your results, you've either gone backwards or maintained, and not over a particularly long period of time. Your regime also costs over 50 times (literally, that isn't hyperbole) more than finasteride, if you're taking it with a quartered generic proscar tablet. If you are achieving results, it is because you have lowered your alpha 5 reductase 2, in the same way the propecia does so. There is no difference doing this on a hardcore natural regime or on propecia. You will get the same sides on either, however finasteride has more clinical backing, it is cheaper, more effective and only 2-5% of users get side effects.
GroughBack: If you are referring to my progress, your head is the last thing you need to worry about, a pair of glasses would be much more help. I have at LEAST 30% more hair than 4 months ago, and 100% follicle restoration, that the close-ups make very clear. The darker pigment was never there before, and just as the earlier restored follicles have produced new terminal hair, ALL of the new follicles seem to be doing the same, so as far as time is concerned, it is definitely on my side. Unlike what you have now trapped yourself into, a maintenance routine that will involve at best, slower loss of your hair!
JeanlucBergman: 100% "follicle restoration"? No, that is a blatant lie. Keep kidding yourself buddy, I'll have a good laugh when you're a norwood 6 and on here asking for hairpiece advice. I hope people have a good look at your photos, because you sound totally delusional, and you're probably spending hundreds per month on vitamins that aren't helping.
GroughBack:The pictures make it clear, you are so trapped into what you are doing that any honesty at all isn't even possible? I have had doctors tell me that they have never seen results like this with finasteride, dudusteride the list goes on. I am sorry that what is obvious to professionals, friends, and family is not to you. It says more about your character, you just will not admit that something other than than the D**k breaker you are on works. https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/album....chmentid=50991
GroughBack: And saw palmetto, costs far less than fin
JeanlucBergman: Another blatant lie. How idiotic. You can get a years supply of generic proscar for $50. Also a years supply of high quality saw palmetto won't work for 95% of people with hairloss anyway. Certainly it hasn't for you.
JeanlucBergman: Maybe if you zoom in some more you'll magically become a norwood 1 again. I genuinely feel sorry for you. So, so delusional.
"I have had doctors tell me that they have never seen results like this with finasteride, dudusteride the list goes on."
You're an idiot, and a liar, and possibly mentally ill. What do you even have to gain by making this shit up? One look at the wide shots of your head and it is clear you have gotten worse.
GroughBack: It isn't even possible to say it hasn't worked. 30% more hair is 30% more hair.
JeanlucBergman: We need some more opinions from others on this so that others can tell you you've gone backwards. You sound insane right now.
GroughBack: I think you might be drunk, blind, and foolish.
JeanlucBergman: I'm just trying to help you mate, you haven't grown anything back and you're kidding yourself. It's really embarrassing. I'm sorry, but it's the truth.
And no, there is no data to suggest finasteride shrinks genitals, and if it did, so would saw palmetto, they are both reducers of alpha 5 reductase. Saw palmetto also reduces type 1 which has nothing to do with hairloss.
JeanlucBergman: The truth obviously hurts, but you sound insane right now. The most delusional person I have come across on these forums. At least you'll know I'm right in 6 months when you're substantially worse off.
GroughBack: Are you blind? do you not see the several thousand new terminal hairs.
JeanlucBergman: Hopefully some others see this thread and tell you the truth. You haven't improved at all.
GroughBack: It can't be argued, there are thousands of new hairs. They are in the pictures.
GroughBack: Do you expect others to say that I glued them there?? give it a rest.
JeanlucBergman: There are none you goddamn fuking blind idiot. Get real. See a psychiatrist.
GroughBack: Ok......
GroughBack: Done with you. Honesty isn't a part of your routine, sorry this is clearly working for me.
JeanlucBergman: I encourage others to look at GroughBacks results and report if they think they see improvement
Groughback: As do I, since I did not cut the shorter hairs to this length it is impossible to deny.
GroughBack: I was bald there bud, now there is hair.
JeanlucBergman: You're insane. I'm sorry, but you are insane. Your friends and family are assholes not to tell you the truth.
END OF THREAD https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/thread...-any-way/page2
MY family that's "insane" say's thanks for the additional motivation!!!!! Here's today

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