Has anyone heard of stopping and restarting finasteride, inducing persistent sides?

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  • pkipling
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    The finasteride/side effect conversation is always an interesting one to me, because the primary side effect men are worried about (libido and a healthy sex life) can be attributed to any other number of factors over the course of a man's life. I'm by no means saying that side effects aren't possible, and it seems as if this could potentially be the case for you. But why I find this topic to be so muddy is because there really isn't a way to ever know for sure. Our libidos/erections are tied just as much (if not more) to our mental, emotional, psychological, and other physical states as they are to anything related to a drug. Stress and anxiety, lack of sleep, sadness/depression, age, and many other things can contribute to problems below the belt. Even just the mere suggestion that doing one particular thing (such as taking a medication) can potentially cause your equipment to malfunction is enough by itself for your equipment to stop working. This is simply human nature.

    When we're on the lookout for something, it's also very common for us to give more importance to otherwise normal situations. "I'm not feeling turned on today... Must be the finasteride. I didn't wake up with an erection... Must be the finasteride." Now, I'm not saying that this couldn't be the case, as it very well could be. But I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice to not consider other options. Are we overthinking it? Are we misremembering just how high our libidos were before we took the drug? How much time do we spend worrying about whether or not the drug will cause side effects? Have we simply gotten older and we're comparing our older self's sex drive to how it was when we were younger?

    All of these things can only be answered by ourselves, by being introspective and self aware of our bodies and our mental/psychological habits. Side effects could happen, yes. But even if you don't believe the findings in the initial study (that showed that half of those that reported side effects were given placebos - think about that), the fact is that even if 10% reported side effects, chances are far greater that there is something else contributing to this than the drug alone.

    So trust your gut and listen to your body, and you'll be led to the right conclusion for yourself. Wishing you a head full of hair and a healthy libido.
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  • MYHAIRDLS
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    Originally posted by JSmyth
    What kind of hit did your hair take after coming of and how long did it take?
    Well it thinned. Finasteride was a very effective drug from me. I started it early when I saw thinning and I kept a nice head of hair. Once I stopped there is a very significant difference over the year. I didnt have major shedding like some people report just thinned from front to crown and if I do not comb my hair the correct way its noticeable. Its especially noticeable by end of day when hair gets a little flat and greasy. That's why I recently had RPR with Acell done in hopes of at least preserving if not improving. I tried minoxidil, which irritated my scalp to the point I could only use it 2-3 times a week, which probably accelerated the thinning process instead of helping it.

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  • JSmyth
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    Originally posted by MYHAIRDLS
    Definitely waves. Came back slowly.
    What kind of hit did your hair take after coming of and how long did it take?

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  • MYHAIRDLS
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    Originally posted by maxout777
    Was it an overnight kinda recovery or did it come in waves? I'm kinda experiencing my recovery in waves....6 months off.
    Definitely waves. Came back slowly.

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  • maxout777
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    Originally posted by MYHAIRDLS
    Yes, generally. I think my confidence took a hit but everything seems to be back to normal. Was worried for a while. Losing hair is bad enough but not nothing compared to not able to .......
    Was it an overnight kinda recovery or did it come in waves? I'm kinda experiencing my recovery in waves....6 months off.

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  • MYHAIRDLS
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    Yes, generally. I think my confidence took a hit but everything seems to be back to normal. Was worried for a while. Losing hair is bad enough but not nothing compared to not able to .......

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  • JSmyth
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    Originally posted by MYHAIRDLS
    I took finasteride for about 6 years. The last two years noticed I developed a problem but could not believe it was the drug. The clinical trial data suggested only 1-2 % develop sexual dysfunction but after market experience suggests much higher incidence. Finally went off it due to loss of libido and difficulty with ED. It took about 8 months for things to get back to normal. Once back to normal I rechallenged myself at much lower dose, 0.5 mg every other day. In about 3 months I started experience difficulties again so I stopped it . Took about another 8 months to get back to normal. Wont risk it again. There has been reports of prolonged and even permanent dysfunction.
    Did your spontaneous/morning erections come back, as well as the libido?

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  • Mpbman
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    Originally posted by JSmyth
    I agree that other factors are at play, but I do not drink or do drugs. I eat healthy and I go to the gym every other day. The first time I went off the drug within a couple weeks a felt an immediate difference in my sexual function, both libido and erections. I am fairly sure that it is the drug which is exclusively causing this symptomatology
    Well it might also be over-training that's causing the loss of libido. (google "overtraining and loss of libido")

    But it seems that propecia is the reason, so you might lower the dosage or quit it altogether. But you'll start losing your hair again.

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  • JSmyth
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    Originally posted by Mpbman
    Sure - propecia can be the reason for JSmyth's side effects, but it might not be the only one. That's all I'm saying.
    I agree that other factors are at play, but I do not drink or do drugs. I eat healthy and I go to the gym every other day. The first time I went off the drug within a couple weeks a felt an immediate difference in my sexual function, both libido and erections. I am fairly sure that it is the drug which is exclusively causing this symptomatology

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  • Mpbman
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    Originally posted by MYHAIRDLS
    Of course these things can affect sexual health, but his question was regarding propecia and sexual dysfunction is a well documented possible side effect

    Sure - propecia can be the reason for JSmyth's side effects, but it might not be the only one. That's all I'm saying.

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  • Mpbman
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    Originally posted by maxout777
    While all that is true - that's kinda like saying, you smoked for a few years now but your lung cancer could be due to something else, like inhaling diesel fumes.

    Obviously it's most likely finasteride at the root of OP's issue.
    Well, it kind of not saying that.

    While smoking causes lung cancer in 90% of patients (according to this page: http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/gui...-cancer-causes), the effects of finasteride is smaller.

    According to this site:
    Finasteride, a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, widely used in the medical management of male pattern hairloss, has been reported to cause sexual side effects. This article critically examines the evidence available and makes recommendations as to how a ...

    "The review revealed that finasteride is infrequently associated with problems of ejaculation (2.1-7.7%), erection (4.9-15.8%), and libido (3.1-5.4%)."

    and

    "A large prospective study in as many as 17,313 patients was conducted to look into the effects of finasteride and other covariates on sexual dysfunction as part of the analysis of The Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial (PCPT).[11] Sexual dysfunction was assessed in the 17,313 PCPT participants who received finasteride 5 mg during a 7-year period. Finasteride increased sexual dysfunction only slightly even at 5 mg dosage (which is much higher than the 1 mg administered in pattern hair loss) and its impact diminished over time"

    So, it's not that obviously that finasteride is the root of his issues.

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  • MYHAIRDLS
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    Originally posted by Mpbman
    I believe that loss of libido/erections can be also due to other factors than just propecia.

    Age plays a big role - you're just not as horny at 40 as you were at 20, and your penis doesn't work the same at 40 (or even 30) as it did at 20, nothing to do with propecia.

    Cigarettes, alcohol abuse, obesity, bad health, stress and other things can also affect your erections/libido.
    Of course these things can affect sexual health, but his question was regarding propecia and sexual dysfunction is a well documented possible side effect

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  • maxout777
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    Originally posted by Mpbman
    I believe that loss of libido/erections can be also due to other factors than just propecia.

    Age plays a big role - you're just not as horny at 40 as you were at 20, and your penis doesn't work the same at 40 (or even 30) as it did at 20, nothing to do with propecia.

    Cigarettes, alcohol abuse, obesity, bad health, stress and other things can also affect your erections/libido.
    While all that is true - that's kinda like saying, you smoked for a few years now but your lung cancer could be due to something else, like inhaling diesel fumes.

    Obviously it's most likely finasteride at the root of OP's issue.

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  • Mpbman
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    I believe that loss of libido/erections can be also due to other factors than just propecia.

    Age plays a big role - you're just not as horny at 40 as you were at 20, and your penis doesn't work the same at 40 (or even 30) as it did at 20, nothing to do with propecia.

    Cigarettes, alcohol abuse, obesity, bad health, stress and other things can also affect your erections/libido.

    Leave a comment:


  • MYHAIRDLS
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    I took finasteride for about 6 years. The last two years noticed I developed a problem but could not believe it was the drug. The clinical trial data suggested only 1-2 % develop sexual dysfunction but after market experience suggests much higher incidence. Finally went off it due to loss of libido and difficulty with ED. It took about 8 months for things to get back to normal. Once back to normal I rechallenged myself at much lower dose, 0.5 mg every other day. In about 3 months I started experience difficulties again so I stopped it . Took about another 8 months to get back to normal. Wont risk it again. There has been reports of prolonged and even permanent dysfunction.

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