Temple points are crucial

[AlviArmani Rep]

Dr. Baubac temple point work

This is an older thread, but is such a great discussion and a very important topic that is often overlooked in today's hair restoration world. Temple points are a critical component to a natural looking hairline that is often either ignored by the surgeon or just over looked.

I posted a few examples of Dr. Baubac's hairline restorations below where the temple points were recreated. A critical factor when it comes to facial framing and a natural looking hair transplant.

example #1

example #2

example #3

[thejack]

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?5098-Hairline-Temple-Points-Result-Shapiro-Medical-2-Sessions&

Some great temple work by Shapiro there

[msnyc15]

Do super low hairlines and super thick head of hair count as an arugment against temple points? Heck if any Doctors could turn NW4 on to that no one would be discussing temple points

[msnyc15]

Ginobli TG?

Balding man

Quick mock-up of ht w/o temples and with. Does that look like a transgender male?

[msnyc15]

You seem to have the issue with this not him

You will never get get over it if you continue to insist so belligerently on being so dead wrong about it. Barking at me IS NOT going to change reality. It is what it is and it is not going to change just because you refuse to accept it.

What does this even mean? First of all it does not happen to all men, try for instance James Brolin

https://www.google.com/search?q=james+brolin&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS505US505&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=ARVDgqr_fAuVYM%253A%253Bh0CBPRgLpT-6SM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fprojects.latimes.com%25252Fhollywood%25252Fstar-walk%25252Fjames-brolin%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=ARVDgqr_fAuVYM%253A%252Ch0CBPRgLpT-6SM%252C_&usg=__I1Cs7NBlF9MM1X63NDJNeXUNDa4%3D&biw=1536&bih=730&ved=0CIkBEMo3&ei=Fm-tVJvqKYukgwS4zICADQ#imgdii=_&imgrc=ARVDgqr_fAuVYM%253A%3Bh0CBPRgLpT-6SM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.latimes.com%252Fincludes%252Fprojects%252Fhollywood%252Fportraits%252Fjames_brolin.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fprojects.latimes.com%252Fhollywood%252Fstar-walk%252Fjames-brolin%252F%3B280%3B350

This is like telling every woman who wants perky breast, less forehead wrinkles, tighter tummy that they just shouldn't do it because it isn't natural.

CLEARLY HTS are best and IMHO ONLY good if the temple points are fixed. The HTS I see with receded temple points that go straight up and then a straight across hairline look like what they are; hair transplants no matter how 'good' the work is. I'd opt for not going lower and or slightly less density to get the temples fixed. And no, it wouldn't make me look 'transgender', it would make my ht look natural and me look younger. Clearly YOU have some issue with that.

[25 going on 65]

Good point. However if a HT surgeon says he will restore you to a NW2, does that mean the appearance of a somewhat normal hairline in a 25+ years of age male, or would most HT's be limited to crappy hairlines with widows peaks?

Depends on the surgeon & surgery. Most HT's I feel the hairline is too high or the temples are not restored enough. However I understand why they do this because grafts are limited
You can ask him to show you what he means by NW2. Ask him to draw the line on your forehead, or at least on a pic of you

[Dav7]

Forum users came up w/ "NW0" because some feel that the NW1 sketch shows minor recession. As I have said before....this chart should not be taken as gospel. it is a bunch of rough sketches done many years ago. All that matters is, are you losing hair or not? If yes then how far are you from when you had no hair loss?

Good point. However if a HT surgeon says he will restore you to a NW2, does that mean the appearance of a somewhat normal hairline in a 25+ years of age male, or would most HT's be limited to crappy hairlines with widows peaks?

[25 going on 65]

Forum users came up w/ "NW0" because some feel that the NW1 sketch shows minor recession. As I have said before....this chart should not be taken as gospel. it is a bunch of rough sketches done many years ago. All that matters is, are you losing hair or not? If yes then how far are you from when you had no hair loss?

[burtandernie]

You might be right I dont know if there is a NW 0 or not I guess you could argue some hair loss is shown on the NW 1 picture in that chart? Those charts are not that accurate or great depending on what one you look at or how the pictures are drawn or use real life pictures.

[Dav7]

Very hard to quantify the importance of hair. I sometimes question if its even more important then most people even on here seem to think. NW 0 makes a guy look very young for his age, and most actors or models do have NW 0 hair. Looking younger is hard to view as a bad thing to me at least but I guess some guys think otherwise.

Why do so many keep bringing up the term NW0, it doesn't even exist on the Norwood scale? Doesn't NW1 essentially mean zero hair loss (hence why they are unsuited for HT's), with recession beginning at a NW2 with the hairline becoming more rounded with miniaturised peak loss occurring as opposed to the more squared off look with the NW1 hairline of younger people?

[burtandernie]

Very hard to quantify the importance of hair. I sometimes question if its even more important then most people even on here seem to think. NW 0 makes a guy look very young for his age, and most actors or models do have NW 0 hair. Looking younger is hard to view as a bad thing to me at least but I guess some guys think otherwise.

[burtandernie]

I guess that I am a bit narcissistic, but that's because I take pride of my appearance. I remember when I was growing up, losing hair was the one thing that I did not want to happen, would rather have acne.

****.
Hairloss.

Yeah probably because hair does not grow back by itself and has no remotely decent treatments. Acne does.

[drybone]

For guys who catch their MPS early enough , or guys like myself who at 47 are still a NW 3 , the doctors have no problem with the temple hair.

What they dont want is to waste the donor hair on temples when their clients need it on the top or crown.

[534623]

If the figure can be this low (400), then why are HT surgeons so hesitant about adding temple points considering how important they are in framing the face, I don't get it.

Basically, there are 2 main reasons;

1) Most bald guys try basically to get their hair back at the front and/or vertex/tonsure area and as dense as possible as well - but mostly there is (>NW5) simply a LACK of sufficient donor hair.

2) Even there is still sufficient donor hair...

http://s14.directupload.net/images/140104/nrft556j.jpg

...this is still the second main problem. That means, to get a sufficient number of hairs with finer caliber, but still PERMANENT hair.

Anyway, I will also try to start to restore my temple peaks during my 3rd HST procedure. btw - the guy in the photo/link I posted is another HST patient and (unfortunately) not me, because the guy has still lots of natural hair

[Dav7]

I've seen pretty radical transformations done with as few as 400 on each side, and more moderate ones done with as few as 200 on each side.

If the figure can be this low (400), then why are HT surgeons so hesitant about adding temple points considering how important they are in framing the face, I don't get it.