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  • clandestine
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    Shut the ***** up fin, dut, prp, etc.

    What of those who take fin, dut and experience sides. Hint; we're left with very few options. Many of them experimental.

    It frustrates me when people describe those who don't take fin as some non-committal person who is simply unwilling.

    Trust me, and listen to what I'm saying: there are those of us who have tried, are willing, but have proven unable to take conventional medications. Please respect the distinction.

    Oh, and prp has had pretty dismal results thus far.

    Cheers.


    Originally posted by x4342
    1983: "I'm balding! Is there anything I can do?"
    - Sorry, you are out of luck.
    2013: "I'm balding! Is there anything I can do?"
    - Sure, Fin, Dut, RU, PRP etc. You should be able to at least maintain what you have.

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  • x4342
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    Originally posted by burtandernie
    Yeah I have to agree with you our current treatments are just dangerous and not very good they dont keep your hair long term.
    Hopefully PGD 2 or something like that will lead us to at the very least allow us to keep our hair. Growing a whole lot of new hair seems to be a whole lot more elusive then anyone really thought. We have tons of individual discoveries but they never form any cohesive single treatment. 10 years from now you will be using 20 different products for that kitchen sink approach?

    Well, you hit the nail on the head. Reviving or regrowing lost hair has proven to be far, far more difficult than initially thought. It's actually possible for millions of people to essentially halt or at least radically slow down the progression of their hair loss. It's the ability to maintain hair that separates the present from the past, but there has been little clear progress when it comes to regaining. Simply using fin or dut can effectively halt hair loss for many people. Yes, there are potential sides, but it's far better than having no option at all. In addition there are topical anti-androgens, and even something like prp can greatly aid in maintaining simply by continuously reversing the most recent minor miniaturization. It's an expensive strategy but again an option that previous generations did not have.

    The biggest difference between someone like myself and my uncles is that I have a choice as to whether or not I want to go full blown bald. The biggest disappointment is that there is still no reliable method of regaining what you have already lost. You can maintain your hair and you can move it around (transplants) but you can't reliably get it back.

    1983: "I'm balding! Is there anything I can do?"
    - Sorry, you are out of luck.
    2013: "I'm balding! Is there anything I can do?"
    - Sure, Fin, Dut, RU, PRP etc. You should be able to at least maintain what you have.

    1983: "I want my hair back!"
    -Sorry, you are out of luck.
    2013: "I want my hair back!"
    -Sorry you are out luck.

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  • BigThinker
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    Originally posted by ChrisM
    AIDS has killed millions upon millions of people over the decades. Male pattern baldness does not have the same track record. So it is a matter of priorities in the pharmaceutical and medical communities baldness although inconvenient does not cause by itself a road leading to death.
    What did we do to deserve MPB? Be born?

    People who get AIDS have unprotected sex and/or share needles (minus the handful of poor individuals who get raped) -- they engage in risky behavior.

    I hate to be crude, but I have little sympathy for people who contract AIDs because they thought needed a heroine fix or were too stupid to practice safe sex habits.

    Scientists: I WILL PAY YOU MONEY TO SAVE MY HAIR. I bet most people who have AIDs can't pay for their respective cure.

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  • burtandernie
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    Yeah I have to agree with you our current treatments are just dangerous and not very good they dont keep your hair long term.
    Hopefully PGD 2 or something like that will lead us to at the very least allow us to keep our hair. Growing a whole lot of new hair seems to be a whole lot more elusive then anyone really thought. We have tons of individual discoveries but they never form any cohesive single treatment. 10 years from now you will be using 20 different products for that kitchen sink approach?

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  • 25 going on 65
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    Hair loss affects more people than AIDS or cancer....

    Just saying, scientists. Just saying.

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  • DepressedByHairLoss
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    I really agree with all of your comments. The lack of innovation in the hair loss field is absolutely staggering. It seems like barely anyone is even trying to innovate. As I've said before, I really believe that a lot of people in the hair loss field do not want to innovate at all because they are already making ridiculous amounts of money performing these archaic hair transplants. That's why oftentimes when a new breakthrough in hair loss occurs, you hear some HT surgeons bashing it.

    We're all really fed up with the limited options being presented to us to treat our hair loss. I always laugh when I hear FUT being described as some kind of "gold standard". How the hell can it be a gold standard if most people do not even opt to undergo the procedure in the first place?

    I mean, I've read about windpipes and skin being cloned, yet these procedures are only being performed on a select few. There is so much innovation in so many other fields of medicine yet when talking about hair loss, all we seem to hear about is the same tired old garbage: minoxidil, finasteride, and hair transplants. Oh well, at least some people like Dr. Nigam are willing to innovate and try to give us better options to regrow our hair. I wish there were more doctors like him out there.

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  • ChrisM
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    Originally posted by Aames
    You guys know what's even worse? EVERY effective treatment is either:
    a) An accidental discovery; the drug in question was being studied for something else. Hair regrowth was just a noticed side effect.
    b) Experimental and will likely never see FDA approval or widespread use.

    I cannot think of a SINGLE effective treatment that was developed and crafted solely for the purpose of saving our hair. We are on the verge of curing AIDS but we cannot manage to come up with a foolproof method for keeping these little strands attached to our scalps. Amazing.
    AIDS has killed millions upon millions of people over the decades. Male pattern baldness does not have the same track record. So it is a matter of priorities in the pharmaceutical and medical communities baldness although inconvenient does not cause by itself a road leading to death.

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  • deuce
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    I know man it is truly depressing and mind boggling there is no sign of a cure in sight. Its crazy to me that they can clone animals and humans, but cannot stop male pattern baldness. This stuff is so depressing. I think about it all day. Today my 5 year old nephew asked me why I am bald. It sucks. I cannot use propecia because I get the worst sides. I messaged the sompany about the finasteride with the topical film, but got no response from them yet. It sounds real promising, but too good to be true.

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  • Aames
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    You guys know what's even worse? EVERY effective treatment is either:
    a) An accidental discovery; the drug in question was being studied for something else. Hair regrowth was just a noticed side effect.
    b) Experimental and will likely never see FDA approval or widespread use.

    I cannot think of a SINGLE effective treatment that was developed and crafted solely for the purpose of saving our hair. We are on the verge of curing AIDS but we cannot manage to come up with a foolproof method for keeping these little strands attached to our scalps. Amazing.

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  • 25 going on 65
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    Originally posted by BigThinker
    It's mind-blowing it's 2013 and we can't keep our hair.

    It's mostly painful to think that someday men will not have to worry about hair loss, but unfortunately that won't be the case for me.
    We are probably the last generation that will have to deal with this.
    In fact if we all knew more about MPB before it happened to us, we might not be dealing with it. If I could go back in time I would have started DHT inhibs a year before any signs of loss.

    If I ever have a son and there is not a cure yet for MPB, I am srsly going to make sure he understands the risk and how to stop it from happening long before he loses his first strand. If my dad did that for me my life would be significantly better right now

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  • BigThinker
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    It's mind-blowing it's 2013 and we can't keep our hair.

    It's mostly painful to think that someday men will not have to worry about hair loss, but unfortunately that won't be the case for me.

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  • 25 going on 65
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    Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
    And forget about a "natural cure" that you can take without side effects. No money in that. If(and that's a big IF) there ever is a cure, I can guarantee you it will be a drug that must be taken for the rest of your life and is expensive. The drug of course will have plenty of potential sides: impotence, cancer, developement of breasts, other stuff that is worse than hairloss, and of course more hair loss.
    If the cure was to be found in nature I think someone would have noticed in the last 100,000 years of pattern baldness.

    If there was a lifelong drug that 100% reversed MPB I would be happy to take it

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  • Notcoolanymore
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    Sorry, It's just getting rediculous. Not trying to make anybody lose hope.

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  • clandestine
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    Well aren't you just a Negative Nancy?

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  • Notcoolanymore
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    And forget about a "natural cure" that you can take without side effects. No money in that. If(and that's a big IF) there ever is a cure, I can guarantee you it will be a drug that must be taken for the rest of your life and is expensive. The drug of course will have plenty of potential sides: impotence, cancer, developement of breasts, other stuff that is worse than hairloss, and of course more hair loss.

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