Aames' Dutasteride Log

[PatientlyWaiting]

I actually already started Avodart almost 2 months ago. Jumped right on .5 mg every day. When I started, I dropped from 2.5 mg finasteride daily to 1.25 mg. My plan was to slowly taper down from 1.25mg fin until weening off it completely, while my body was "loading up" on dut. Yet now I find myself wanting to chicken out of tapering off finasteride....there is this weird feeling of security in continuing the drug that has helped my hair for so long (2.5 years) even as I start a more powerful DHT inhibitor.
I am most paranoid when it comes to hair

How are you doing at 2 months so far? Anything better than what fin was doing? And are you on minoxidil?

[25 going on 65]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I do think that I will discontinue fin for good when I run out. Depending on my results at that time, I may also up my dut dosage to 1.0 mg per day or do a 0.5 mg oral/ 0.5 mg topical split.

How well do you think topical dut would work?

[25 going on 65]

A weekly dose of finasteride (7x1.25 mg) equals to two Avodart pills a week. So if you want to start Avodart (0.5 mg ED), you can add 2-3 pills to your finasteride regime for several weeks, and when it builds up in your bloodstream, you can quit finasteride and slowly add another Avodart pills up to 7 pills a week.

I actually already started Avodart almost 2 months ago. Jumped right on .5 mg every day. When I started, I dropped from 2.5 mg finasteride daily to 1.25 mg. My plan was to slowly taper down from 1.25mg fin until weening off it completely, while my body was "loading up" on dut. Yet now I find myself wanting to chicken out of tapering off finasteride....there is this weird feeling of security in continuing the drug that has helped my hair for so long (2.5 years) even as I start a more powerful DHT inhibitor.
I am most paranoid when it comes to hair

[Aames]

Yeah man. I am very paranoid about going through with my plan to taper off fin. I still take a full 1.25 mg every evening after my .5 dut in the morning....have not even started to taper. I know this is irrational, but I feel so secure with my dual inhibitors

Yeah, I know what you mean. I do think that I will discontinue fin for good when I run out. Depending on my results at that time, I may also up my dut dosage to 1.0 mg per day or do a 0.5 mg oral/ 0.5 mg topical split.

Thanks for the info, WarLord. It's probably best that I don't get into that world at this time, to be honest. Maybe in the future, I will make better use of your information.

I was reading that last results thread that got posted and it got me worried about de-myelination. I sure hope that something like that doesn't happen to me or anyone in the duta crew for that matter. Scary stuff to think about but you have to do what you have to do.

[WarLord]

Yeah man. I am very paranoid about going through with my plan to taper off fin. I still take a full 1.25 mg every evening after my .5 dut in the morning....have not even started to taper. I know this is irrational, but I feel so secure with my dual inhibitors

A weekly dose of finasteride (7x1.25 mg) equals to two Avodart pills a week. So if you want to start Avodart (0.5 mg ED), you can add 2-3 pills to your finasteride regime for several weeks, and when it builds up in your bloodstream, you can quit finasteride and slowly add another Avodart pills up to 7 pills a week.

[WarLord]

I'm not sure where I fall on the whole kids issue anymore. You'll never convince the entire bald population to not hump everything they can; and if they are able to get a mate in the first place, aren't they fit enough to pass on their genes? Meh, I'm not sure I want children anyway; more important things to worry about now.

Anyway, WarLord, am I remembering correctly when I recall that you juiced while on fin? How did that turn out? Was fin sufficient in battling excess DHT? Part of me wants to ride a single bike to escape the skinny-fat zone for good, but I am too afraid of damaging my hair.

As for an update, I started taking fin again yesterday (4/3) in conjunction with duta. This is primarily because I have a bunch leftover and also, I guess I feel safer for some reason. Not sure why.

Steroid use has nothing to do with excess DHT (unless you use testosterone). I was using steroids many times during 2008-2012 and I was using only 5% minoxidil. But I took stanozolol, a relatively harsh steroid, only twice; for the rest of the time I took oxandrolone that shouldn't influence your hair at all. In fact, I felt that my long-term problems with seborrhea had IMPROVED while on oxandrolone. It is a very, very mild stuff.

If you are on finasteride, then your choice of steroids is very limited. In fact, I wouldn't even recommend oxandrolone. However, there is one good choice: SARMs. Actually, I think that it was due to a simultaneous use of SARMs that I experienced a fast regrowth of hair only after 6 weeks on finasteride. After I quitted SARMs, the regrowth stopped and my life turned into a nightmare. But that's another story.

[25 going on 65]

As for an update, I started taking fin again yesterday (4/3) in conjunction with duta. This is primarily because I have a bunch leftover and also, I guess I feel safer for some reason. Not sure why.

Yeah man. I am very paranoid about going through with my plan to taper off fin. I still take a full 1.25 mg every evening after my .5 dut in the morning....have not even started to taper. I know this is irrational, but I feel so secure with my dual inhibitors

[Aames]

I'm not sure where I fall on the whole kids issue anymore. You'll never convince the entire bald population to not hump everything they can; and if they are able to get a mate in the first place, aren't they fit enough to pass on their genes? Meh, I'm not sure I want children anyway; more important things to worry about now.

Anyway, WarLord, am I remembering correctly when I recall that you juiced while on fin? How did that turn out? Was fin sufficient in battling excess DHT? Part of me wants to ride a single bike to escape the skinny-fat zone for good, but I am too afraid of damaging my hair.

As for an update, I started taking fin again yesterday (4/3) in conjunction with duta. This is primarily because I have a bunch leftover and also, I guess I feel safer for some reason. Not sure why.

[WarLord]

Probably. But it was unlikely that it would have given me regrowth and the thickening that I want. I'm also kind of interested in duta's effects on acne (some say it cleared them up perfectly) and free testosterone (some claim it actually helps build muscle). If I stay side effect free, I guess I see no reason to not use duta over fin then. Probably would have had to made the switch eventually.

Your decision was right. You can play with finasteride, when you are 40 years old. If you are young, MPB proceeds too fast and you must bet on a more effective stuff.

[Aames]

That thread made me want to look up more dutasteride results threads, and all I see is positive results from those who used it for a prolonged period of time like 8 months+.

Yeah, it really seems that people who give it a fair chance experience fantastic results. I hope each member of the duta crew here soon adds to the positive results.

[PatientlyWaiting]

Have you seen this recent dut thread:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=105032

If I could tolerate anit-dht meds, I would have been on it yesterday.
check out the before and after pictures.

I have been balding for over 30 years now, yet this young guy started worse off than me- but look at his results. For some people this stuff really works!

That thread made me want to look up more dutasteride results threads, and all I see is positive results from those who used it for a prolonged period of time like 8 months+.

[Aames]

No, you're not listening. I did not say I have a problem with people trying to stop baldness.

I'm saying that YOU ARE NOT BALDING AT ALL!!!!!!!

You are using meds because you are scared of eventually developing baldness.

Anyway good look with the impotence that may occur with your "pre-emptive" treatment.

I have hairline recession and thinning at my crown. It's been verified; you're wrong.

Have you seen this recent dut thread:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=105032

If I could tolerate anit-dht meds, I would have been on it yesterday.
check out the before and after pictures.

I have been balding for over 30 years now, yet this young guy started worse off than me- but look at his results. For some people this stuff really works!

Wow, great results. Thank you for posting that. Hopefully, I can replicate something like that! How are you maintaining/slowing loss without DHT inhibitors?

[mpb47]

It could be that then. There's a thread in *** where a member who posted on there said he takes 5x 0.5 dut pills a day, he claims he has no side effects. There are others who posted they use 2 pills a day.

I'll see what 0.5/day does for me in 1 year. I'm hoping to see some significant improvement in month 4-6 though.

Have you seen this recent dut thread:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=105032

If I could tolerate anit-dht meds, I would have been on it yesterday.
check out the before and after pictures.

I have been balding for over 30 years now, yet this young guy started worse off than me- but look at his results. For some people this stuff really works!

[PatientlyWaiting]

It could be that then. There's a thread in *** where a member who posted on there said he takes 5x 0.5 dut pills a day, he claims he has no side effects. There are others who posted they use 2 pills a day.

I'll see what 0.5/day does for me in 1 year. I'm hoping to see some significant improvement in month 4-6 though.

[25 going on 65]

Not sure what that could mean. I get the impression it has to do with concentration of the drug in your system and not how much it is lowering DHT. Maybe it just takes that long to reach peak "steady state" concentration since the drug has such a long half life

And to my knowledge there are no 2.5 mg capsules available. I assumed in the studies the participants were just taking 5 .5mg capsules?