Aames' Dutasteride Log

[luganoa]

I've been suffering from occasional short term memory loss (running up the stairs and forgetting why I was going upstairs for????) and my head seems to be permanently foggy.

The sort of foggy/thick head you get when you're about get a cold/flu. I have also experienced sweating for no particular reason. ...so much my clothes are soaking wet.

I been feeling like this since last December and put it down to age (i'm 56), male menopause, possible diabetes or Alzheimer's.

After reading your post I did some Googleing...

"On Oct, 6, 2013: 7,612 people reported to have side effects when taking Avodart. Among them, 91 people (1.20%) have Memory Impairment."

I've been taking generic Dut for 2 years. Is it possible it takes a while to start affecting your memory?

Anyone else experiencing my symptoms?

[konfusion]

decided to drop Avodart. I believe now it is very dangerous. today I came to work, tried to log in to my computer but no matter how hard I tried I could not because I did not remember the password. the password I use everyday for the last 2 years! I believe it has something to do with the 5 alpha reductase type-1 blocking properties of dutasteride. I am only 30, too young to experience such thing. so everybody who's on dut, consider yourself warned.

edit: funny thing is I needed to ask my admin for it, he looked surprised and said how can you forget your password. I also play the piano, and now there are times I sit and just look at the keys because I cannot remember a piece I played 1000 times before. it's scary. it's like my motor skills are also deteriorating, normally I don't need to look at the keyboard at all, my fingers know which keys they should go, but sometimes they just get frozen and can't remember.

[PatientlyWaiting]

I see some familiar names in here, hope you're all doing good.

[BigThinker]

I already take 1.3 mg dutasteride/day (some Avodart+powder dissolved in ethanol). Well, considering the fact that the Kirkland pipette is inaccurate, it is actually close to 1.5 mg/day. This dose should suppress skin DHT by ca. 65-70% (on average). In late June, my blood DHT levels were practically unmeasurable (0.3 ng/dl), so I can no longer determine the increasing efficiacy of dutasteride in my body. I would have to have skin biopsies.

My supplies of dutasteride are now unlimited. I can consume as much powder as I want, without any financial constraints. And I quitted finasteride completely 4 weeks ago.

Your reasoning is good. Remember that when you decrease DHT, the lost hairs will return back "in the order of sensitivity to DHT". Which means that at first, you will observe some improvement on the top of your head, then on the vertex, and only at a high suppression of DHT, you will see some regrowth in temples. That's why I won't waste my time on low doses, because I am Norwood 1.5 and I can't expect any regrowth without a very strong suppression of DHT.

Makes me wonder. My vertex and crown feel and look thicker. My crown had a spot developing and now it's filled back in, even though my hair is half the length of my baselines pics. (I'm 1.25 fin/day atm). My hairline (whole frontal lobe really) is worse and still getting worse - full of miniaturization still at 5+ months of fin. It's nice I can run my hand over the top of my head and *feel* resistance for the first time in months. I would love that feeling at my hairline.

My dut arrived last week. I think on Monday I'm going to add 0.5 mg/week dut in addition to my daily fin. I'll do this for 3 months and if I don't feel any sides I'll have the next shipment ordered for before it runs out.

Does this seem reasonable to you, WL?

[25 going on 65]

Hey brahs, haven't updated for awhile. I recently started taking 1 mg duta per day. My reasoning is mostly paranoia and desperation but I also saw some literature that showed a pretty significant decrease in scalp dht with larger doses of duta. Consequently, I decided I must do it. As of this writing, I have a 6 month supply of finpecia, dutas (will always be my staple), and dutagen (purely for cost). My plan is to ride out this supply and post pics when it is done since I want the difference to be very noticeable. I think I am seeing regrowth but it is pointless to speculate. I will let you guys decide when I finally post pics. After this period is up, I will be dropping fin. Have a good day, brahs; may Zyzz be with you.

Like you I added .5mg Dutagen to my regimen (also for cost reasons since my other .5mg is brand name Avo). I am concerned about legitimacy but PatientlyWaiting seemed to have strong results from this brand.

I do have baby hairs growing in front of my hairline but they are cosmetically useless still. I am not convinced DHT suppression alone can bring these back to terminal hairs, since the damage has already been done over the years. Thinking about adding minox but scared sh*tless about shedding

Good luck to you. Hoping we will be in a great place 6-12 months from now

You need to go outside. If your idol is a roided up coke head muzza you need to get over this zomg aethetics brah hit da gym get da chix. That will not get you laid.

Zyzz may have been ridiculous but aesthetics do get you laid, make no mistake

[luganoa]

Gees, you guys are hair gurus.

"My supplies of dutasteride are now unlimited. I can consume as much powder as I want, without any financial constraints."

Warlord - un-suprisingly i'm interested in finding out more about this quite remarkable statement... ...is it something you can share in public?

[WarLord]

Hey brahs, haven't updated for awhile. I recently started taking 1 mg duta per day. My reasoning is mostly paranoia and desperation but I also saw some literature that showed a pretty significant decrease in scalp dht with larger doses of duta. Consequently, I decided I must do it. As of this writing, I have a 6 month supply of finpecia, dutas (will always be my staple), and dutagen (purely for cost). My plan is to ride out this supply and post pics when it is done since I want the difference to be very noticeable. I think I am seeing regrowth but it is pointless to speculate. I will let you guys decide when I finally post pics. After this period is up, I will be dropping fin. Have a good day, brahs; may Zyzz be with you.

I already take 1.3 mg dutasteride/day (some Avodart+powder dissolved in ethanol). Well, considering the fact that the Kirkland pipette is inaccurate, it is actually close to 1.5 mg/day. This dose should suppress skin DHT by ca. 65-70% (on average). In late June, my blood DHT levels were practically unmeasurable (0.3 ng/dl), so I can no longer determine the increasing efficiacy of dutasteride in my body. I would have to have skin biopsies.

My supplies of dutasteride are now unlimited. I can consume as much powder as I want, without any financial constraints. And I quitted finasteride completely 4 weeks ago.

Your reasoning is good. Remember that when you decrease DHT, the lost hairs will return back "in the order of sensitivity to DHT". Which means that at first, you will observe some improvement on the top of your head, then on the vertex, and only at a high suppression of DHT, you will see some regrowth in temples. That's why I won't waste my time on low doses, because I am Norwood 1.5 and I can't expect any regrowth without a very strong suppression of DHT.

[Aeroes]

Hey brahs, haven't updated for awhile. I recently started taking 1 mg duta per day. My reasoning is mostly paranoia and desperation but I also saw some literature that showed a pretty significant decrease in scalp dht with larger doses of duta. Consequently, I decided I must do it. As of this writing, I have a 6 month supply of finpecia, dutas (will always be my staple), and dutagen (purely for cost). My plan is to ride out this supply and post pics when it is done since I want the difference to be very noticeable. I think I am seeing regrowth but it is pointless to speculate. I will let you guys decide when I finally post pics. After this period is up, I will be dropping fin. Have a good day, brahs; may Zyzz be with you.

You need to go outside. If your idol is a roided up coke head muzza you need to get over this zomg aethetics brah hit da gym get da chix. That will not get you laid.

[Aames]

Hey brahs, haven't updated for awhile. I recently started taking 1 mg duta per day. My reasoning is mostly paranoia and desperation but I also saw some literature that showed a pretty significant decrease in scalp dht with larger doses of duta. Consequently, I decided I must do it. As of this writing, I have a 6 month supply of finpecia, dutas (will always be my staple), and dutagen (purely for cost). My plan is to ride out this supply and post pics when it is done since I want the difference to be very noticeable. I think I am seeing regrowth but it is pointless to speculate. I will let you guys decide when I finally post pics. After this period is up, I will be dropping fin. Have a good day, brahs; may Zyzz be with you.

[WarLord]

Warlord - Yeah I've had the acne side effect on fin, same with dut, but no sexual sides, and no change in libido. Did you see any benefit from the drug?

Interestingly, acne has never been noted in any clinical trial, AFAIK.

The outburst of acne (mostly on my back) was quite significant, and it was actually not me, who noticed it first. But after 2-3 months, it calmed down.

After ca. 2 months on dutasteride, my incessant hairloss stopped, and after additional 1 month, I started to observe some regrowth, although it is not much noticeable. It is always very difficult to regrow hair in temples, especially after 16+ years, like in my case.

[KO1]

Warlord - Yeah I've had the acne side effect on fin, same with dut, but no sexual sides, and no change in libido. Did you see any benefit from the drug?

Interestingly, acne has never been noted in any clinical trial, AFAIK.

[luganoa]

How can dutasteride cause impotence, when it increases testosterone levels by 20-30%? Some men actually continue to lose hair on dutasteride because of the disproportional explosion of testosterone. After I started to take dutasteride, the only side effects that I noticed was acne and increased libido.

The idiocy connected with "side effects" in 5-AR blockers never ceases to amaze me.

That's exactly what I've experienced. An increase in sex drive. No bad side effects so far. I've been suffering from dry eye syndrome for the last 5 months. I don;t think its on the side effects list.

I didn't know Dustateride increases testosterone. It might explain a few things.

I've started to work out a lot and getting quite pumped up. I've also been taking a lot of whey protein. Not sure it that's the same protein that hair is made from but it may be a factor in my hair growth..

[WarLord]

Hi guys, came across this thread by accident as was amazed by two things I read..

1. How easily people forget their own experiences when losing hair.

I didn't wake up one day 'bald' and start thinking of how to get a cure!

I started to notice my hair loss when I had loads of hair and just a tiny area at the crown where it was thinning. I used to inspect it daily with a magnifying glass it was that small. All I remember is people saying "stop being so vain".... Yeah almost all these jokers had hair!!

If I had put a picture on this site I bet it would have attracted loads of ridicule too.

Good luck to you Aames. I can only assume that those that gave you stick would love to have as much hair as you have today, and didn't think things through before reacting...

2. Taking Dutasteride is dangerous and the chemical equivalent to castrations

Now this bit I really need to understand.

To be honest if I had to choose between a full head of hair or sex it would be a tough call....

You may laugh but my guess is that if you take Finesteride or Dustateride, it';s a tough call for you too.. ..why else would you take the risk of losing your sex drive...

You can see from my post on http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12927 that Finesteride did have an effect on my libido but I still took it.

Then I heard about Dutasteride. Same risk but more hair growth... ...it was a no brainer..

GREAT NEWS. So far my libido is back to normal AND MY HAIR IS GROWING BACK THICK & FAST.

I've been taking Dutasteride for just over a year and all my research says it 'may' cause impotence. Nowhere apart from this post has anyone said it's 'dangerous' or can cause 'castration'

DO YOU GUYS KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T? If so please give me the link...

...also what is NW1.1, NW7???? I know I'm wrong but it looks like UK post codes to me.

How can dutasteride cause impotence, when it increases testosterone levels by 20-30%? Some men actually continue to lose hair on dutasteride because of the disproportional explosion of testosterone. After I started to take dutasteride, the only side effects that I noticed was acne and increased libido.

The idiocy connected with "side effects" in 5-AR blockers never ceases to amaze me.

[luganoa]

Dutasteride causes castration????

Wow, I'm just astounded at this thread, you're in essence chemically castrating yourself (potentially permanently) because you think your NW1.1 hairline is on its way to NW7 with 100% certainty.

Here's some advice: swap your pharmacist for a psychologist.

Hi guys, came across this thread by accident as was amazed by two things I read..

1. How easily people forget their own experiences when losing hair.

I didn't wake up one day 'bald' and start thinking of how to get a cure!

I started to notice my hair loss when I had loads of hair and just a tiny area at the crown where it was thinning. I used to inspect it daily with a magnifying glass it was that small. All I remember is people saying "stop being so vain".... Yeah almost all these jokers had hair!!

If I had put a picture on this site I bet it would have attracted loads of ridicule too.

Good luck to you Aames. I can only assume that those that gave you stick would love to have as much hair as you have today, and didn't think things through before reacting...

2. Taking Dutasteride is dangerous and the chemical equivalent to castrations

Now this bit I really need to understand.

To be honest if I had to choose between a full head of hair or sex it would be a tough call....

You may laugh but my guess is that if you take Finesteride or Dustateride, it';s a tough call for you too.. ..why else would you take the risk of losing your sex drive...

You can see from my post on http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12927 that Finesteride did have an effect on my libido but I still took it.

Then I heard about Dutasteride. Same risk but more hair growth... ...it was a no brainer..

GREAT NEWS. So far my libido is back to normal AND MY HAIR IS GROWING BACK THICK & FAST.

I've been taking Dutasteride for just over a year and all my research says it 'may' cause impotence. Nowhere apart from this post has anyone said it's 'dangerous' or can cause 'castration'

DO YOU GUYS KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T? If so please give me the link...

...also what is NW1.1, NW7???? I know I'm wrong but it looks like UK post codes to me.

[Dan26]

How much does generic dut tablets cost?

You can order 1gram in powder form for $100...that translates to 2000 0.5mg doses, would last years!