a case study of DONOR REGENERATION with the FUE-L Technique by Dr B. MOUSSEIGNE

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  • Kiwi
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    Good luck! and remember to take lots of photos

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  • Mathieu
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    Hi,

    my last post seems to have confused a few forum members. In reality, it should have been understood as a cautious statement, and not as a negative assessment of the FUEL's current achievements.

    At this point in time, I have seen several cases with very high regenerative rates in the donor area, and viable grafts (harvested from these -then- regenerated donors) transplanted safely into recipient areas. Older test patients do report regular regrowth in the recipient too. Therefore I can't see a reason to be pessimistic. Just allow me to be cautious, because ongoing tests are precisely meant to explore the technique's limitations. Or maybe you want me to make big claims without undisputable proof to back it up, capitalize on your hope for a "cure", and take over the board with the help of a few clueless members? ... well ... if you don't mind, I'd rather avoid that approach!

    In the beginning, I just intended to get the word out about that new technique, and I wasn't planning to contribute frequently to the forum. If everything goes well, you should hear more about it soon enough, and not necessarily through my personal posts.

    By the way, I'll be undergoing a test in just a few hours from now; a small amount of grafts into my strip scar. Soon I'll do a larger procedure for the hairline (despite the positive results I've seen, I still feel a bit shy about using my poor donor after 2 failed HT's - stripx1, mix FUE-FUT-BHTx1 ... you'll excuse me for being irrational on this one ).

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  • UK_
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    Originally posted by Joker
    Good luck, Mathieu. I hope the limitations aren't too significant (i.e. a lack of sufficient recipient growth). This latest post doesn't sound as positive as your earlier ones, but I wish you and Dr. Mousseigne the best. Please continue to keep us updated on the new cases.
    Me too, hope it doesnt induce permanent limp dick.

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  • Joker
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    Good luck, Mathieu. I hope the limitations aren't too significant (i.e. a lack of sufficient recipient growth). This latest post doesn't sound as positive as your earlier ones, but I wish you and Dr. Mousseigne the best. Please continue to keep us updated on the new cases.

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  • FearTheLoss
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    Originally posted by Mathieu
    Hi guys,

    sorry for the late reply.

    Everything is progressing positively. I'm currently in the process of analyzing/mapping 3 different showcases.
    As more tests are performed, we get a clearer picture of what will be achievable with this new technique, and also what kind of inherent limitations we will struggle with.
    When can we expect to see these 3 different showcases?

    I'm very anxious to take a look at these.

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  • Mathieu
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    Hi guys,

    sorry for the late reply.

    Everything is progressing positively. I'm currently in the process of analyzing/mapping 3 different showcases.
    As more tests are performed, we get a clearer picture of what will be achievable with this new technique, and also what kind of inherent limitations we will struggle with.

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  • Artista
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    I had just noticed and read this thread this morning..interesting.

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  • FearTheLoss
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    I think Cole would be a great doctor here in America..he's open minded to advancing techniques.

    Mathieu, where are you brother?

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  • Kiwi
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    Originally posted by Joker
    Thanks for the reply, Mathieu.

    I definitely understand your interest in locating an American doctor who performs manual FUE surgeries, but I hope you will not necessarily make that preference a limiting factor.

    Many doctors use automated systems to lower the costs of their procedures, but might be willing to return to manual systems if donor regeneration can be proved (which your initial study has done). For example, Dr. Cole has done a lot of work with ECM materials and donor regeneration, and would almost undoubtedly be willing (and able) to implement a manual technique if it advanced the goals of his patients.

    Please let us know if there is any way American forum members can help you move things forward. Again, good luck!
    I hope it is a limiting factor. I wouldnt trust somebody to operate on me if they hadnt...

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  • FearTheLoss
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    bump

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  • FearTheLoss
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    Mathieu,

    Just patiently waiting here for your next case post. I'm very interested to see what FUE-L is all about.

    FTL

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  • Arashi
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    So, how did the test go, Mathieu ?

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  • Joker
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    Thanks for the reply, Mathieu.

    I definitely understand your interest in locating an American doctor who performs manual FUE surgeries, but I hope you will not necessarily make that preference a limiting factor.

    Many doctors use automated systems to lower the costs of their procedures, but might be willing to return to manual systems if donor regeneration can be proved (which your initial study has done). For example, Dr. Cole has done a lot of work with ECM materials and donor regeneration, and would almost undoubtedly be willing (and able) to implement a manual technique if it advanced the goals of his patients.

    Please let us know if there is any way American forum members can help you move things forward. Again, good luck!

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  • Ginkgo
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    Hi Mathieu,
    I'm looking to get 600-800 grafts to add density to and slightly lower my temples. Do you know when Dr Mousseigne's technique would be available to do such a procedure in the UK, and how much it may cost?
    Regards

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  • Mathieu
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    FearTheLoss, thanks for your support. Even though the procedure will take place this wednesday morning, you will have to wait a few additional days before I can publish all the relevant data. Let's say that it will be done by next sunday



    JJJJrS, thanks for the link! That was more or less how we intended to proceed, so it's nice to see you agreeing on the way to go. However, due to protection of our protocol, we will not reveal every detail. In fact, I need to discuss with Dr Mousseigne about the content we can share publicly for now. But I believe that monitoring of both donor & recipient areas won't be a problem.



    didi, Dr Nigam seems to be focused on other types of protocols, involving mostly products/compounds that we can't use here for sanitary reasons. But maybe will I try to meet him in person sooner or later. We'll see.



    Joker, please allow me to c&p a few lines I had posted on HS:
    "we have good hopes to find a reliable and skilled medical director for a US-based branch. In order to get started shortly, we will have some technical requirements that will shorten the list of potential laureates."
    The main issue when it comes to exporting the FUE-L technique to the US is to find a doctor already skilled with traditional FUE transplants involving manual punching. Indeed, to my knowledge, nearly every american doctor offering FUE is using a motorized drill; Umar, Feller, Shapiro, Cole (with his new CIT protocol?), Bauman, Bernstein, Harris, Wesley, etc. ... without even mentioning all the unknown docs resorting to Neograft's technicians, and those punching too big. On top of my head, Dr Cooley could be a fine laureate, but I don't know what kind of punch he is using. Last time I checked, Dr Wolf was still using a manual punch too. Anyway, there aren't so many choices at first glance if you're looking for an already competent doctor.
    I do have an alternative strategy in mind, but we'll see in the course of the summer.

    As for "an estimate on how long it would take to get a doctor to start experimenting with this in the US", you have to understand that we are doing the testing here in France and in the UK. So what will eventually be exported to the US will already be proven to work. The question would rather be "how long will it take an american doctor before he can practice efficiently this new technique?", to which I could reply: Just a few weeks of intensive training, or a few months maybe, if he's skilled enough to get the hang of it. So everything could move forward very fast, depending on human potential.

    Regarding my "own procedure", I'll c&p another excerpt of a post on HS:
    "I'll personally undergo a test soon. I'm thinking of lowering my hairline of about 1-1.5 cm, over a bare area. It'll be the occasion to test different percentages of harvesting in the donor with different transplanted densities in the recipient. Results should be easily assessed because of the bare recipient pre-op, and because I keep my hair shaved all the time. "
    ... I plan to go ahead with it before the end of this month. I'll keep you updated.

    Thanks for your questions.

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